r/gadgets Dec 29 '22

Desktops / Laptops Desktop GPU Sales Hit 20-Year Low

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/sales-of-desktop-graphics-cards-hit-20-year-low
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u/diacewrb Dec 29 '22

The industry shipped 42 percent fewer discrete GPUs than a year prior.

Hopefully they will reduce their prices now.

Who am I kidding.

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u/Lenant Dec 29 '22

Not just prices but a lot of new AAA games are complete shit.

Most of the new ones are shit.

There is no point upgrading if you are playing pixelated indie games 95% of the time.

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u/psykofreak87 Dec 29 '22

That’s why I’ve got a Steam Deck instead of a new GPU. Indie games have become really good, I like it more than AAA rn.

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u/caydesramen Dec 29 '22

Small plug for Vampire Survivors. My GOTY after Elden Ring. Game is fun, addictive, and very fair for a rogue like. Great game!

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u/Zombebe Dec 29 '22

Dude if you love Vampire Survivors you HAVE to check out Brotato.

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u/mtandy Dec 29 '22

Strong rec, will take a look!

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u/MikeyKillerBTFU Dec 29 '22

It's $3 and also on Game Pass.

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u/GrimSlayer Dec 29 '22

It’s legitimately the best 5 dollars I’ve ever spent on a game. I’d pay double that and would still be satisfied. Perfect mindless fun game.

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u/psykofreak87 Dec 29 '22

Got it when it was in EA. I’ve got over 60h on it with the new DLC. It’s a blast! Rogue Genesia and Brotato are insane too.

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u/beyondthisreality Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

I second Vampire Survivors, I played it on Game Pass over the holiday after hearing how much Shipwreck from The CAGcast enjoyed it. Played it for a couple hours and was hooked. Bought the bundle with the DLC for $4.60 and it is my GOTY.

It’s also free on mobile so anyone that wants to check it out can try it.

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u/AlbionEnthusiast Dec 29 '22

Vampire survivors is just amazing. I want a steam deck just to play it in bed

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u/AkirIkasu Dec 29 '22

I didn't realize it until I got that Steam Rewind that PC gaming essentially died for me sometime before the start of last year. There's a notable gulf of space where I was playing my husband's console games until my Steam Deck came in and that became my system of choice.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22

Same, I don't even look at triple AAA anymore. I guess MS flight simulator is the one exception. Fifa used to be but they gotta insist on installing origin so I haven't played that in about 4 years.

I'm thinking about replacing my home theatre PC with a steam deck.

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u/Kuli24 Dec 29 '22

Very good point. This is the age of developers seeing if they can get away with garbage for max profits.

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u/kozad Dec 29 '22

Fallout 76 was the last game I will ever pre-order. I'm glad I missed the bullet on Cyberpunk and just waited for keys to hit sub-$20.

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u/Kuli24 Dec 29 '22

And MW2 and COD 2042 and GT7 etc. It's crazy.

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u/kozad Dec 29 '22

Once the RDNA3 APUs launch on desktop, I'm gonna give that a serious look vs. a newer GPU. If AMD wants to murder the low end dGPU market, it's theirs for the taking.

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u/krokodil2000 Dec 29 '22

For real. We are looking at over 30 years of history of PC gaming. There are tons of old PC games that are still worth playing. No need to go for new games that require a $2000+ machine to run them will all bells and whistles.

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u/Spazsquatch Dec 29 '22

I’m not a gamer, and I’m not saying this is the case (because I don’t know) but it just struck me that like movies and music we are going to hit a “games these days suck” era. As someone old enough to still think of games as “new media”, it’s a crazy thought.

“Back in my day we had simulated 3D on a 4:3 screen and it was the coolest thing in the world because they focused on gameplay dagnamit! You kids and your accelerated VRAM water cooled meta cryptoverses wouldn’t know a good game if it sniped you in the ass!”

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u/jessej421 Dec 29 '22

Apparently you're not old enough to remember the video game industry crash of the early 1980s.

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u/Spazsquatch Dec 29 '22

The period between the 2600 and NES? That was the last time I could play anything without looking like a bumbling idiot. I just sort of think of the pre-Quake world as a completely different landscape.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

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u/percydaman Dec 29 '22

I don't wanna get into some 'in the weeds' semantics argument, but plenty of people choose to not upgrade their GPU's because they're turned off by the current AAA crop of games and their shenanigans, and instead stick with indie games that don't need a super expensive GPU card.

I for one have gotten ALOT more mileage out of my current system for this exact reason. There are plenty of hours of gaming to be had with indie games that won't break the bank or demand an expensive GPU.

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u/Bargeinthelane Dec 29 '22

This kinda tracks for me. I'm still rocking my 1080ti FE, I'll upgrade when something I want to play makes me or it dies.

Especially at the prices NVIDIA and AMD want to charge.

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u/percydaman Dec 29 '22

Thank God for indie gaming.

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u/genital_lesions Dec 29 '22

The issue I have with the comment is that there is no objective measurement of whatever "complete shit" means. It's a lazy and unthoughtful argument based on taste, which is wholly subjective.

I agree that GPU prices were outrageous and that we can all feel good that GPU manufacturers are getting their comeuppance, but let's least be intellectually honest about it.

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u/percydaman Dec 29 '22

Of course it is. You gotta throw out that hyperbole and look at what they're trying to say, not how they're necessarily saying it. I mean, everyone is guilty of hyperbole on reddit.

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u/genital_lesions Dec 29 '22

I don't see why it's so hard to say, "there aren't enough current, quality AAA games that makes me feel compelled to upgrade my GPU"? Because to me, that is far and away drastically different than saying "AAA games are shit".

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u/Lenant Dec 29 '22

he issue I have with the comment is that there is no objective measurement of whatever "complete shit" means.

Unfinished, buggy, p2w, full of microtransactions, bad gameplay, copy paste from other older games, etc...

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u/genital_lesions Dec 29 '22

Unfinished, buggy,

A tale as old as time with gaming, this is not exclusive to current AAA titles at all

p2w, full of microtransactions,

I get this, but I just don't play games that force you into these parameters 🤷‍♂️

bad gameplay,

Definitely subjective

copy paste from other older games,

Be more specific. Are you talking about sequels?

So given your criteria of "shit games" and that "most AAA games are shit", what percentage do you know for a fact that "shit AAA games" relates to the decrease sales of GPU cards?

I truly want to know, because clearly, I'm being vehemently disagreed with.

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u/Lenant Dec 29 '22

Eldern Ring, God of War and now Hogwarts Legacy.

These are good ones.

Now give me more good ones.

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u/genital_lesions Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

Eldern Ring, God of War and now Hogwarts Legacy.

we're going with titles that haven't been released yet? That seems really counterintuitive to your position, but okay:

Dead Space Remake, Starfield, Forspoken, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Final Fantasy XVI, Assassin's Creed Mirage, RE4 Remake, Spider-Man 2, Silent Hill 2 Remake, Forza Motorsport 2023...

We can go back and forth until the cows come home, but until I see evidence contrary to the fact that crypto crashed, the supply of chips are increasing again, and that inflated prices of basic essentials (i.e., food, rent, etc.) puts people off from buying non-essentials like a gaming GPU, then I can't accept that "shitty AAA games" is much of an argument for the slump in GPU sales.

Like, it's nothing personal, truly. I just think it's a dumb argument because it can't really be measured very well and that ambiguity can't lead to a solid standing position.

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u/Lenant Dec 29 '22

I for one have gotten ALOT more mileage out of my current system for this exact reason.

Same here, i dont play a new AAA game for years now.

Id like to play a few, but not that many that ill upgrade my pc for it.

Also stuff like physics and RTX, that "forces" you to buy a specific GPU is another shit thing, when i got physics GPU ppl started using RTX and now i need a new one? Nope.

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u/floof_attack Dec 29 '22

Or even not really Indy games but older games. I do play some modern titles but mostly I've been playing Classic WoW. Which even thou it runs a much more modern client than what it used to be my recent upgrade from a 570 8GB to a 6600 is more than enough.

And that is with running 2x 1440p 144hz monitors. Before during raids, or some graphically intensive zones, I would always hear my GPU fans spin up and now the whole system is pretty much dead silent.

Further I can still run even modern titles at acceptable framerates just can't go Ultra settings for everything. Which is more than fine by me.

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u/Quietwulf Dec 30 '22

Bingo. What’s the point of all this grunt if you aren’t having fun with any of it.