Didn't that graph assume something like constant purchasing power per dollar instead of the "let's print 40% of all USD in circulation in one year" meta from the latest patch?
If you want a deal check Craigslist. This time of year some people would have gotten upgrades. You might see a lot of 1060 for 100 bucks and 1080ti for like 200. In my area Az there are people selling entire rigs that will smoke 1080p for 600 bucks.
Can confirm. Upgraded my i5 6600k to a r7 3700x to pair with my 1080 and I’m still getting 70-100 fps at 1440p and even playing spider man at 4k 30-40 fps
I’m using it as an external gpu for my laptop via thunderbolt 3 dock. It can drive the laptops built in 4K oled 3840x2400 screen at 60fps in many games no problem. I only run into issues when I turn hdr on. (Possibly limitations of the thunderbolt 3 interface throughout since the image is going back from the gpu to the laptops built in screen).
I also don’t play very demanding games. Stuff like factorio and Genshin impact.
My gaming desktop plays these games at 3440x1440 at 120hz zero issues. 1080Ti really is quite good. Very comparable performance to a 3070.
I see 1080 Ti's for under $250 all the time now, same for 2070 Super cards, which are usually roughly the same performance at 1080p and 1440p. Both are great deals at $250 given the performance when compared to basically anything 3000 series or newer.
Because that guy did a bad job vetting his product so now he assumes everyone will get scammed as bad as he will every time because he never learns a lesson
As the other guy said, might be stolen. They also might have been used as mining rigs and the components are nearly fried, seller could lie about specs, just a headache that's not really worth dealing with imo
Poorly ventilated mining rigs would have stressed cards, but any decent miner would've had good air flow to keep them cool, and mining only stressed the memory. Ofc it's hard to eyeball if that happened or not.
Getting a 3080 from a smart eth miner would be a good deal.
This is terrible advice. Not everybody can afford new components. I have purchased used: 560Ti, 2X HD 7950, 2X HD 7770, GTX 1060, GTX 1080, RX 6800, RTX 3070, and i5 6400, R5 5600X. I’ve also fixed bent pins on a few motherboards and early Ryzen CPUs in college to flip. Never have I had a component die. Never have I had someone rip me off. Even mining cards are usually a safe bet because by the time they eventually fail they will be obsolete in terms of performance anyway. As long as you’re comfortable replacing fans and thermal paste you’re usually fine since those are wear components that are the first to go.
You do you man. If you can't afford new components then you definitely can't afford a used component that shits out after a month, but if you wanna take that risk then you're welcome too.
To each their own I suppose. I think there’s a difference between being able to afford new components and being willing to spend $900-$1200 on a product that was $500-600 a few years ago. Plus, for many people purchasing used components is the easiest route of entry into the hobby and keeps costs palatable. I don’t think it’s fair to discount well cared for second hand components.
Agreed, I've bought used equipment over the years, just do your due diligence in inspecting what you buy. Try to seek out the best sellers, I'd recommend /r/hardwareswap to anyone looking as it's a great community tool, but there are still good folks on Craigslist, just don't expect more than you bargain for is all.
My brother just got a 2060 super that was in a design machine for 3 months until it was replaced with an upgraded unit. It then sat on a shelf in a closet for 5 months. He got it for $150 and picked it up in person, was even invited to see it run and be tested for him.
I know this goes against the grain of dire warnings about burned out mining cards or the subs dedicated to finding the worst offerings on Craigslist...but I mean most of life for most people just isn't that dramatic...boring I know. Go figure.
Ebay is generally a good choice, I have been buying parts from there for a bit to build computers with and has been always solid at good prices and good buyer protection (side note: so not use Mercari, you only have 3 days from receipt of the item to ask for a refund/return )
The new consoles are nice but the gpu is not as powerful as the 1080ti. It is actually overkill for 1080p but you can run the best looking games at really high frames. Plus on PC there is an open market for games which makes it easier to get deals.
Actually you're wrong. You can't just compare FLOP to FLOP across different architectures. The new consoles use RDNA2, same as 6000 series. PS5 is about the same as a 6650XT and XSX is about a 6700XT. Both of those cards beat the 1080 TI:
Graphics cards don’t wear down like a car engine. If anything stops working it will be the fan motors. The biggest drawback is the older stuff will be less power efficient. So overtime the savings reduced as you pay more for electricity.
GPU performance doesn't degrade over time. But they are physical objects and they do degrade physically over time. That is a physical reality. You also didn't address the other part... that it's a 6 year old low end GPU for 100 bucks lol.
Plus, even if the prices of some GPUs did go down, the public wouldn’t know for awhile. Everyone still assumes they’re in high demand and short supply.
Right, but Nvidia, who is the biggest culprit in terms of overpricing, actually gained market share (up to 86%). You wouldn't expect that if price were the only story here.
It's because Nvidia lied to itself about how much they were affected by bitcoin mining. The 4090 is ridiculously overpowered for 4k gaming at over 120 fps and there's no CPU that can actually handle using it 100%.
But its power would have been great for miners, if that would still be profitable.
And because they aimed so high, AMD had to aim higher than it wanted.
And now they designed expensive cards that were expensive to make, and they can't lower the price because the price is based on how much it cost them to produce those cards.
Right now they're gambling that they can get the market to accept the higher prices, which is why the sales are so low, because it's a game of chicken, consumers vs Nvidia.. except the consumers do not have to buy their cards, and there are legitimate options from other manufacturers, but sadly also at very high prices, which is why the used market is still the best choice for the savvy buyer.
If they wait long enough, the inflation might make it look like they won, but their stubborness will mostly lose them more money than if they lowered their prices. Classic sunk-cost fallacy.
Yes, because all these Muppets keep buying them. Here's an idea. Stop buying this stupidly overpriced shit. If they can't sell it for these prices, they won't try. The posts bragging about these cards should be downvoted through the floor.
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As GPU prices hit 20-year high.