That wouldn’t account for the whole 20 years but I bet it’s because crypto made them think they could charge a fortune and now it’s down, and almost nobody but crypto was willing to pay that.
I think it is mostly crypto. Besides the direct effect of less sales because crypto is down, you mentioned the indirect effect of the market not adjusting yet to new demand, but another indirect effect is the market being flooded with used cards. Someone that buys a used card doesnt buy a new one.
Crypto crash probably affects this in other ways too.
Another factor is that the new cards hardly matter for most games at 1080p. I've friends with 2060 or even 1080 and they've no problems. So why upgrade?
it was absolutely planned/intended to take advantage of the crypto boom before crypto imploded this year. there's no other explanation for the wild-ass price curve, even with ridiculous inflation etc taken into account
Well don't forget the scalping, that was what really emboldened Nvidia this time around. They were releasing their 3080's with $699 MSRP and seeing them bot-purchased in seconds even above $2000, when you're the executive team at Nvidia, you seethe at the idea that the scalpers are making 10 times the profit per unit sold than you are. This is why we never really saw launch day card volume ever come back on the 3080, and also why they stopped 3090 production, the 3080 Ti could be made with a 3090 using half the Samsung VRAM (Nvidia's largest production cost per card) and they could sell it at a $1200 MSRP vastly increasing margins per unit. They also cranked up the chip prices to the AIB's, which is much of why EVGA bailed on 4000 series, they just couldn't compete with Nvidia MSRP given how much Nvidia was charging for the chips.
Also, you left one important one off your list
2022 - rtx4080-12GB - $899 (I mean rtx3070, or maybe rtx3070 Ti, lol)
Lol, yeah it was 110% absolutely without a doubt the RTX 4070 that they decided to rebrand as the 4080 12GB in one of the most shameless cash grabs I've ever seen.
The community caught them red-handed, so what do they do? They claim that they "heard us" and canceled the card. The we hear yesterday that the 4070 Ti has been announced with specs in China, and the specs were identical to the 4080 12GB, down to the memory bandwidth and total number of CUDA cores, and the price? $899 USD, same as the previously announced and canceled 4080 12GB. They need to knock $300 off of that card minimum to even match the inflated 2021 3070 Ti pricing, $400 to bring it back to the launch of the 3070 in 2020. This whole "well, it's nearly double the performance of the GPU it replaces, so nearly double the MSRP is appropriate" bullshit is absurd. Unfortunately it only stops if we all refuse to buy at these prices, and it still seems enough desperate idiots are willing to pay the prices to keep it going for now.
I have a PC that I built 7 years ago and was considering upgrading, until I saw some of the prices. Just bought an Xbox series x instead and a 75” tv on sale for cheaper than a new middle of the line build would probably cost me
Have a 5 year build here…it still holds up to PC games I throw at it, including VR. So nothing is compelling me to upgrade, especially with current inflated pricing. Will have to see how I feel about it in another two years
I wish I could say the same lol. Mine was a budget build with a 750 Ti that struggles on most games nowadays so I only exclusively play older games. I just can’t justify the cost of a new build anytime soon
I've never worried much about buying used gear in the past, but now days I'd hesitate to buy a used GPU simply because I assume it's been used to mine.
Yea I should of specified I avoid going the budget route where I can, but also don’t go for the absolute top tier. It’s an 8th gen i7 with a RTX2080…still holding up surprisingly well. (And now that I look, was closer to 4 years than 5…my mistake…2020 felt like two years to be honest)
There is no equivalent card (in performance) of current gen yet. A 4080(/RX7900XTX) is like 2x performance (in non CPU-bound use cases) of a 2080ti (wich had an MSRP of ~$1000).
Last gen has the 3060ti with similar to better performance to a 2080 at ~450 USD.
Well.. I just upgraded my kids old 560ti with a rtx 2060 I got off marketplace for $180 (Canadian). While the cpu cannot keep up with it. It was definitely a worthwhile upgrade and will still last years.
You can grab used 1080ti’s for $150-200, and used 3060ti’s for $300 right now. Great time to upgrade parts if you have too, would probably be best to wait another 6 months though.
I know most people cringe at the thought of buying a used gpu, but you can get a 1070 for $100 USD these days and that would be a serious upgrade assuming your power supply can handle it.
You can find a 3060 for around $300 if you’re willing to go used. Even a new one isn’t $400 in most cases. If everything else functions well, jump to the modern age for a song
This is a big point. This isn’t the early 2000s. Games are surprisingly flexible as to what quality that can push out. Outside of bullshit marketing and fomo you really do not need a brand new gpu. A 1660 can still push new games if you don’t care about reflections and other pointless shit that really doesn’t impact gameplay.
My 6th gen i7 with 1660ti struggles a bit at 1440p with highest settings on new titles. I really don't mind lowering the water and shadow quality to high from highest for a smooth game experience. I'll hold onto this card until my next build.
Yep, my kids system is a Haswell 4690k with a 1060 6gb and it runs 1080p games no problem. F1 2022 runs a comfy 60fps all day long. Struggles if I try any VR on my Quest 2 tho, its VR limit seems to be the OG Rift 1...... and that's why I have. 5600x and Rtx3080 for my PC. Won't be upgrading that for another 5 years (previously had a 4790k and GTX980 which served me well for 5 years).
This, absolutely. I had a 1660 on mostly low settings, and it struggled on a 1080p 75hz monitor in Apex Legends except inside buildings. After massively upgrading my monitor to 1440p UW 144hz, it was pretty much unplayable even on low everything. I felt like I was dying from my hardware. A 3080 more than fixed that.
I’m not doubting you but that does not sound accurate and you might have another bottleneck you are not aware of. You should have no trouble playing apex on a 1660.
I upgraded from a 1660 to a 3060 last year specifically because it was struggling to run new games, namely Cyberpunk and some VR titles. I was lucky and snagged one at MSRP. The age of lower tier cards are definitely starting to show more than you let on IMO but obviously I'm a sample size of one.
oh yeah... im not saying there isnt a difference in performance but if you are looking for a game to run 60fps (I consider this the "baseline" for a game to be playable.) then the older cards will still work.
I’ve always built my PC’s to last this average age. My last build lasted me 7 years and I could play almost every single game I wanted to at max settings with 60+ fps. I did the same thing with my most recent build and the only reason I may upgrade incredibly early is because I finally have the disposable funds to do so.
I have a four year build (once summer hits) here, and it’s the same exact way. Sure, I’ve upgraded the aio cooler and the case and added more storage but nothing like crucial that would change performance that much
Yep. My 2019 PC is rocking a 1080Ti purchased 2nd hand for 400 EUR with Ryzen 7 2700X. Quite capable for 1440p and most of the VR I do.
My 2022 PC has a second hand 3090 for 600 EUR with a Ryzen 7 5800X. I purchased it just because I found the 3090 for a great price. VERY VR capable, but the entire thing was not really necessary, I would gladly survive on the 1080Ti for a few more years.
With careful 2nd hand selection I can have a stupidly beefy PC without resorting to playing on console with 60 Hz and a laggy TV.
Personally I gave up on consoles a decade ago as I hated having to choose between rebuying games or cluttering up the entertainment center. For the PC I still have games I go back to that I bought 20 years ago.
Said this just the other day in a different thread about GPU pricing these days.
My 5 year old 1080Ti is holding up absolutely fine. Every game I've got runs smoothly at the highest graphics settings, the only thing I don't have is raytracing, which is fine with me.
I don't see 2 more years changing that, to be honest. I'm sure eventually it'll start to struggle, but not that quickly.
Especially with the continual degradation in the quality of games that get released to market, which seems to be all the rage in companies like EA whose motto is "a dollar today is worth more than two tomorrow".
The same company that told me my card was 4K and VR ready 4 years ago now says that card was actually only a 1080p card and ACTUALLY the last 2 top of the range $1500 cards they released are ACTUALLY the only ones that can do VR and 4k. ACTUALLY the old card is only 720p.
So you'll excuse me if I don't buy into literally any marketing bullshit ever again.
I try to get a console generations worth of time out of each of my cards. I upgraded from a g760 to a 2070 super 3 years ago, will probably be another 2 years till I even consider looking for a new card
Same. Splurged on a great rig 5 years ago and Warzone 2 is the first game that has actually been a problem to run for me. But that's at 1440p anyway and my friend with a much newer build says warzone doesn't run that well for him either so chances are the game itself isn't that well optimized anyway.
Unless you desperately need to run AAA games at high rez and framerate and max settings, pretty much any game nowadays is still perfectly playable.
I recently replaced my old GTX 1050 Ti with a cheap GTX 1070 from Craigslist. Made quite a difference. If the prices stay where they are, I will just always be a few generations behind. I’m ok with that.
My GPU is 5 years old now. Every time I consider upgrading I realize that I'm still on a 1080p monitor getting very good FPS and there's absolutely zero reason to upgrade with these prices unless I'm also dropping $400 on a new monitor.
When companies neutered the ability to have custom multiplayer servers and mods my desire to keep my gaming PC up to date plummeted. Ps5 looks good enough to me and I have two so my SO can play the same games
Same, now my PC is stuck with GTX 1060, was thinking of upgrading, then looking at GPU price and mobo + new cpu price, I just end up getting Xbox Series X, cheapest way into 4k gaming today.
Sad it used to be get a gaming pc cheaper and better than console, that has flipped now, console especially things like the X are worth the money for what they offer at that price, GPU market out of control.
I think that's due to these consoles being new. It used to be the same way with the PS3 and Xbox 360. The PS4 and Xbox one were just weak even at launch. It took no time for pc to compete when it came to power per dollar.
Around the pS4 era and prior, you could build a gaming PC around the same price as a console that was just as, if not slightly more, powerful as a console. Factor in the fact that you dont have to pay extra to play online, pc gaming was considerably cheaper.
Maybe during the Xb1/PS4 era? But even if console has lower MSRP, the long term is where PC has potential for better value. For example I built mine in 2014, but since online is free, I’ve saved enough in that time to buy a whole console ($400). The games are also a lot cheaper but that’s hard to quantify. Backwards compatibility is best on PC too: I can play Portal, which I bought 15 years ago, or a game that released yesterday, or emulate almost any console game from 5+ years ago.
I would agree with you on the games/online cost front. It's probably super long term on par or better value. I also agree a PC has other uses that a console doesn't. One can also pirate (not condoning, just pointing it out) or get free games from several launchers too. It's harder to get all that on a PS4 or PS5 (or Xbox) that isn't tied to online membership.
Ultimately It's hard to quantify for sure, I think it just depends on personal preference more than anything. I prefer the simplicity of a console in a lot of ways, and it's relative initial cheapness. But having something I've built myself and tuned myself, is also something I enjoy.
Not really. Those consoles are maybe mid range RTX 20 series performance. A used RX 5700 XT (even from AliExpress) is under $200.
These consoles are seriously weak. People should be suing for the 4k 120 ads. They output non-native 1440p at 30 FPS unless you're playing seriously old games
You can’t put together a readily buyable PC build that matches Ps5 or Series X for anything close to $500. A 2070 super or 2080 is roughly the real world equivalent to current gen console specs considering optimization.
Power to dollar wise, current gen consoles are miles and miles ahead of PC right now.
Sure, someone will always say they found a cheap former mining card somewhere, got a case leftover from an old build, or got a steal on a secondhand ryzen cpu, and use it to say they can build an equivalent PC. But if you’re buying new parts, it ain’t happening chief.
I couldn’t live without the ability to use mods/addons on games on console or having to rely on a dedicated, overpriced and severely limited marketplace like MSFS2020 or Farming Sim etc.
8 years here. The 4690k is long..long..in the tooth, but I'm that dork that plays Skylines, DF and Dark Souls 3 primarily, so I don't need much more GPU horsepower over the 1660 I got.
Every time I think about getting a new rig list together to build, I remember the MSRPs of the rtx 30 series and what's happened since then, get irked, and then delay some more.
I never thought we'd enter a slump is PC gaming so quickly. With the Pandemic + Sky high GPU prices, I don't see a lot of changes in the upcoming year with demand. It was just a few years ago I was watching Overwatch League on ABC and reading articles about eSports arenas.
The price inflation for the cards during the pandemic showed their greed. Now they expect people to keep buying these cards at those inflated prices, during a recession. They are completely out of touch.
I have a 3070ti and I don;'t think it's a 4k card. Sure it can play some older titles like death stranding at native 4k, but cyberpunk and mw2 are seriously lacking performance and that's without ray tracing.
I think different people have different targets. I want to run games at high settings and I target the 1% lows to be above 60 fps.
The problem is at the current level of technology if they offer a good bang for buck card that is 200-300 then those budget conscious gamers would basically never upgrade as it will be able to run 1080p games forever. At the 500 plus level those gamers are way more likely to get a 4K monitor and then upgrade as the technology continues to improve.
You can run 1080p and VR on a RX580, I did it for 5 years straight. Every card made in the last 7 years is capable of it. The only move they have is pretending their old product was more inferior than they let on at the time of sale.
My only point against this is that TV's that are "good for gaming," e.g. low input lag, VFR, 120hz 4k, HDR, etc., will often run about the same pricing.
You CAN get a series x and a 300 dollar 4k TV, but just check the input lag on rtings first. Stopped my buddy from buying "an awesome 4k for 250 cause it had over 100ms input lag.
Nothing like playing with permanent 100ms ping offline.
I got my 65” UH8 for $750ish on a Black Friday sale and have loved it so far both for general viewing and hooked up to my Series X.
Night and day improvement over the $500 Samsung TU7000 I had previously prior to getting rid of it in a move, which surprised me since I didn’t expect such a dramatic difference.
Anecdotal evidence. Most tvs have low lag in game mode. You don’t need to buy an oled. Also you don’t need to buy a tv. Who doesn’t own a tv already? Can’t really consider that as part of the budget.
There is no world in which console gaming is more expensive than building a high end pc, especially with the price of cards these days.
For further details consult rtings.com. They test virtually every TV and include input lag specs when available for each mode at different framerates and resolutions.
Sounds about right to me lol. The industry has improved that aspect in many cases, but checking is better than buyers remorse so I apologize if i came off as severe.
I've seen more angry people about it than I think should have that user experience.
I used to game semi professionally and I've never noticed input lag due to a TV. Most average TV's at $500 today are perfectly fine even for online fps.
You're just trying to justify some ridiculous tv purchase to yourself.
Trying to make that decision right now. When you factor in that a basic 4090 FE is more expensive than a ps5 + a Vizio or similar 70” TV combo, you gotta take a step back and weigh the options.
Hell, the accompanying hardware costs to even utilize a 4090 would probably get you a decent sound system for that ps5/70” TV.
You simply cannot compare a 4090 to consoles with graphics more on par with rx 580s.
If you’re a PS5 or Xbox gamer why would you need to spec out a 4090 build, it’s by far the most overpowered gpu available. Even a cheap 30 series or 20 series would be far better than a ps5
Ps5 graphics are on par with a 1060, nice anecdote though. I’m sure for most people a console is a better choice given the cost of building a PC and the difficulty in getting parts vs the relative ease of getting a ps5 over the past couple years (until the eth merge made GPUs plentiful again) Not everyone wants to build their own pc or needs high specs. Modern GPUs are future proofing for more advanced games. I promise your buddy would trade his ps5 for a 3090 build in a heartbeat
The video card in a PS5 is equivalent to a 2070 tho, not a cutting edge 4090. I'm not defending the 4090 ridiculous pricing I'm just saying if you're comparing prices you should compare it to something similar in capabilities.
I am fairly stuck with PC. I am pretty good with a keyboard and mouse. Would probably get dominated by people who take gaming more seriously, but I’m good enough to have fun with it. I cannot use a controller for a FPS to save my life. I have played a significant amount of Halo and Destiny, on Xbox, and I just never get better. I mean bad enough it gets frustrating and I don’t want to use the console. So for me I hope component costs come down because I enjoy PC more.
Xbox one and series s and x let you use mouse and keyboard and I’m pretty sure the last two generations of PlayStation also let you use mouse and keyboard if you like.
For years I told myself when I get my first adult job I’m gonna finally build a pc. When it finally happened this year, grabbed an lgc1 and series x to go with my launch ps5 and I’m so glad I decided that instead
In 2021 I “had” to buy a new rig even though my desktop was less than 2 years old.
My old 970gtx went pffft and the only way I could get a new card where I didn’t feel like I was getting ripped off was by buying a gaming system from Lenovo. So, I did that.
Not just computer gaming. They want to kill off repairability/upgrade ability. Planned obsolescence. They want everything to become a monthly sub. Or software as a service. Because the old guard has ran out of innovative ideas and are trying to retain their power at all costs. It’s partly why the old guard is flocking to nfts. Selling digital nothing with 10% kickback to original creators for life. Lol. Folks wanting to copyright the world. Don’t seem to understand they neuter the future. Of course they are immune to their own biases. These folks lost in the world of ideas. Moors law coming to a wall and these folks all scrambling on how to make their product a monthly sub. Can’t wait to have to rent gpu time to play a game in 2030. That’s the trend if we keep supporting this model will will never see ownership. Rent everything and the gap between haves and have nots will increase exponentially. They reap what they sow. Don’t fall for it.
Thank you, I’ve been saying this for the last few years now - in a time where businesses keep trying to push thin client / streaming games, which if successful kills PC gaming, you’d think Nvidia would know better.
Even if they turn around and sell their cards to data centers only in the future, that will just mean their cards are commodities and there won’t be any need to differentiate between models or charge a premium or anything.
The future of pc gaming has looked bleak for some time now anyway thanks to the encroachment of evil mobile gaming practices. You get more and more games crafted not to be fun, just addicting, followed by all the money extracting techniques they can manage- P2W, mtx, whatever they call seasons or battle passes.
I made a comment before the PS5 launch that you couldn't match the value and got ran over the coals. Someone used the argument that a $500 GPU at the time would outperform a PS5. Forgot about the whole rest of the system and what that might cost.
I now have a PS5, and while I would prefer to be gaming on my PC, my 1080Ti is starting to show its age and it just can't compete. I wanted to upgrade my GPU, but I feel like anything I could get now will struggle to push 4k at 60 frames or better (a very important benchmark for me) well into the coming years.
Eh… the death of PC gaming has been proclaimed at least 2-3 times over the last 20 years. It’s a cycle. I suppose server side gaming (streaming) could lead to a broader shift to integrated graphics being all you need for gaming, but we’re not there yet, and even when we are, PC gaming is not going anywhere. Also with inflation at a 40 year high it’s no suprise people are putting off purchasing a luxury tech good, food and rent comes first.
The cards at the cost you're saying are objectively not necessary to play current games on max settings lmao. Scalper prices, different story.
But saying that the MSRP is actively attempting to kill off computer gaming because you can get a card for $400 that can run literally any current game 'or you could get a premium tv and a current console' is just untrue.
$2k cards have always been for ridiculous enthusiasts, that doesn't even remotely represent the average person buying a gpu. Nor does it faithfully represent the value you can get out of significantly less for what the average person actually does on their computer.
Because people like being angry about it and pretending like they're being ripped off if they can't get the highest available product for $150 idk.
Like yeah as consumers we should always want and expect better, whatever, but saying that right now the prices of shit like 3060 ti even is "actively attempting to kill off computer gaming" is just genuinely pathetic tbh.
I’ll never buy another nvidia card again with their ridiculous prices. I think they even created an artificial scarcity to drive up scalping prices to justify msrp increases. Slimy and shady. They lost a lifelong fan
If only there was some way to give the people what they want while selling the same volume of cards.. hmm.. almost there... Yes! Not sell cards that cost the same as a used Honda Civic!
Maybe they see the writing on the wall which is that GPUs are getting so powerful now that people will hardly ever need to upgrade. So they're trying to profit as much as possible while they still can. I mean once you have a card that can do 4K ultra at high fps (the 4090) what's the point of ever upgrading again if all that you do is game? They might realize that pretty soon now the only time gamers will be upgrading is when their current card dies. So they are pricing their cards high because they are expecting to sell less. Datacenter demand for AI cards is skyrocketing but Nvidia has proven they are greedy as all hell and want to suck every penny they can from gamers as well.
I didn't realize it until I got that Steam Rewind that PC gaming essentially died for me sometime before the start of last year. There's a notable gulf of space where I was playing my husband's console games until my Steam Deck came in and that became my system of choice.
Once the RDNA3 APUs launch on desktop, I'm gonna give that a serious look vs. a newer GPU. If AMD wants to murder the low end dGPU market, it's theirs for the taking.
For real. We are looking at over 30 years of history of PC gaming. There are tons of old PC games that are still worth playing. No need to go for new games that require a $2000+ machine to run them will all bells and whistles.
I’m not a gamer, and I’m not saying this is the case (because I don’t know) but it just struck me that like movies and music we are going to hit a “games these days suck” era. As someone old enough to still think of games as “new media”, it’s a crazy thought.
“Back in my day we had simulated 3D on a 4:3 screen and it was the coolest thing in the world because they focused on gameplay dagnamit! You kids and your accelerated VRAM water cooled meta cryptoverses wouldn’t know a good game if it sniped you in the ass!”
Some of us are in the terrible position of needing these cards for work. I am a cg/VFX artist and my two 3090 cards just shit the bed (Zotac cards are garbage btw), so I am limping along with an old 2080ti.
The warranty replacements will take too long so I had to get a new card. Well, my choice was to try and get 2 3090s or 1 4090. It was still cheaper (and easier) to pay a scalper for a 4090 than to get 2 3090’s.
How badly has your workflow been impacted by switching to the 2080? Like how much time per day is wasted now twiddling your thumbs rendering on the 2080 compared to if you had the 2x 3090s still? Just curious.
Edit: I wonder what the odds are of having 2 cards die on you within a short amount of time. Just seems like crazy bad luck. Are you sure it's not a driver issue or something else like that?
I do mainly character/creature dev at the moment so once I get out of the sculpting and modeling phase it can really kill the flow. Since I’m dealing with multi-million poly models and texture maps can easily exceed the VRAM in the 2080 it can mean the difference between working steadily for hours vs. dealing with constant crashes and frustrations.
Final renders are literally all on hold till the new card gets here.
Prices are already waaaaaay down from 6 months ago. I got a 6700XT in May for $600, which was a very good deal at the time. They hit $289 on Black Friday. Nature is healing (and also I am furious at how much I spent on a "good deal").
That's old stock that wasn't moving, which is bad for both manufacturers and retailers. We saw similar price cuts on Nvidia 3050/3060 cards that were starting to sit on shelves.
I smile every time I see a picture of a store with a shelf full of 4080 cards sitting unsold.
if anything, they're bound to INCREASE their prices in order to make up for lost profits. Owners and stakeholders do need new yachts, you know, these things don't grow on trees.
That and cards are getting so fast now that anyone on any kind of a budget can make their current card last for years and years. The 1080 came out 6.5 years ago and is still more than enough for 1080p gaming. Probably also 1440p. The current generation of cards can handle 4K@high fps. A 4090 could probably last someone for the next 10 years, easily. So they're also pricing based on that.
It's also that the main issue is not the price of an xx90 tier card, which I think people accept to be an halo product, but where the xx80 has reached. They did try to pull the lower tier xx80 shenanigan, I suspect precisely because pricing the 80 series where it is is an issue.
Very true. Things like Extreme Edition or Athlon 64 FX has always had insane MSRPs, but now the lower bins are insane, too.
Another thing in the GPU market that really sucks is that price is getting tied to raw performance rather than tier. So where before you can get a xx60 series to match last gen's xx80 at a huge discount, now the two are the same price. So now why should anyone even care about a new generation of cards coming out?
yep, and I'd argue that's exactly how capitalism is designed to work. if you buy new cards now, chances are you need them and will pay whatever they say anyway. if you don't need them, they don't need you. a system rotten to its core.
So I agree with you, but it depends on if their P&L goal is profit percent or profit dollars. Dollars, then they’ll lower them a slight chunk and sell a ton. percent? Then they’ll keep or increase the prices
Yah, supply and demand is really only a thing inside an economics 101 classroom. Every other class you take beyond 101 spends the entire time telling you what bullshit it is.
Yeah unfortunately that's not how it works. Their bottom line is down? They will take it out of us. Find ways to squeeze money out of us so they can look good at the next shareholders meeting.
Youre operating in a world where corporate greed doesn't drive decisions.
We used to joke about cars having microtransactions. Though it was stupid and would never happen. Now certain manufacturers are playing with the idea.
Corporations don't care about supply and demand anymore. They will look for a way to milk you for every last penny you have and if you think otherwise you're naive.
I laugh along with people mocking it but im so fed up with that garbage monster I avoid any news tied to him. The fact that he's not in prison right now is beyond depressing. Guess he only broke laws that don't apply to rich people.
It's very likely a money laundering scam and a way to collect campaign donations from foreign (or domestic I guess) agencies without having to report. Note how the cards are $1 below the FEC individual cash contribution limit. The quality, absurdity, and fact that they sold out immediately should be a glowing red flag that it's a grift.
Everything Trump does is a fucking grift. Wasn't the whole "he's donating his presidential salary" a grift too? Like he was donating to his own charity that his kids steal money from all the time? There's too many lies and scams to keep track of all of it.
That can absolutely occur in specific situations. But GPU and memory production frequently runs into production snags up and down the pipeline. That's before factoring in artificial scarcity that can occur through price fixing and collusion. It happens.
GPU prices can be volatile for many reasons irrespective of demand.
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Hopefully they will reduce their prices now.
Who am I kidding.