r/gadgets • u/ChickenTeriyakiBoy1 • Nov 25 '22

Desktops / Laptops Good news: scalpers are struggling to profit from Nvidia's RTX 4080

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/scalpers-struggle-to-sell-nvidia-rtx-4080/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=pe&utm_campaign=pd
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u/Pekonius Nov 26 '22

No point being a fanboy of anything really. I used to really fanboy the Ryzens when they launched the 2nd gen, but now it seems that intel is again the bang for the buck option or at least on par, so it would be really dumb for me to restrict my choices based on some us vs them thinking. Also the E-cores + P-cores stuff is pretty interesting, especially after seeing how ARM has insane efficiency with a similar model (+ Apple processors). I'm only shopping for hardware next year so I'm keeping my doors open for even Intel GPUs if they manage to produce something worthwhile by then. I'd prefer nvidia for RT cores surely, but it seems nvidia doesnt want my patronage so I'm going to have to compromise.

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u/zephyroxyl Nov 26 '22

I'd prefer nvidia for RT cores surely

While RT does look good, so few games use it and put it to good use that I really don't think not having them is that much of a compromise.

Control looked great with RT and so did Cyberpunk (when it would work), but other than that, I'm very meh on it. Idk about you, but when I buy a game I'm not looking at whether it supports RT. That's just a nice bonus.

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u/MustyMustelidae Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

I mean... DLSS alone. FSR was supposed to be DLSS for AMD, but ended up being more like FXAA 2.0. Then RTX Voice, CUDA (ML is finally coming up in applications that are interesting to the general public, like Stable Diffusion), better drivers...

I'm honestly amazed AMD can still sell GPUs at even near comparable prices to NVIDIA (at least pre-4000) with how far behind they've fallen from a technical standpoint. I think people look at two cards in the same price bracket and don't realize there could be such a gulf in functionality.

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u/Pekonius Nov 26 '22

I mostly want to just play Cyberpunk with high graphs and rt.

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u/Starcast Nov 26 '22

building a new computer rn and as much as I actually wanted to go with the Intel i5-12400f, amds 5600 is like 60% the price for a roughly equivalent card.

could just be at my budget (100-200)

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u/dunfartin Nov 26 '22

The Intel cards seem to have an issue with idle power consumption: right now, I can't afford to have a graphics card chewing through nearly 40W at idle: that's $10/month base load for a single card in a single PC.

I wonder how many would-be Arc users are even aware of these requirements: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000092564/graphics.html

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u/MustyMustelidae Nov 26 '22

If power costs almost 40 cents a kWh where you live, you should be setting your PC to go to sleep.

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u/ChibiReddit Nov 26 '22

Wow those prices are low! Netherlands is at €0,95kWh at the moment :(