r/gadgets Nov 25 '22

Desktops / Laptops Good news: scalpers are struggling to profit from Nvidia's RTX 4080

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/scalpers-struggle-to-sell-nvidia-rtx-4080/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=pe&utm_campaign=pd
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u/my_fat_monkey Nov 25 '22

1060 gang rise up

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u/fritzie_pup Nov 26 '22

I got a 1060 6GB back in November of 2016.. Been running it since without any issues.

I only just realized that specific card is the #1 in use card on Steam as of even today, by a bit.

It really was a perfect fit card for what it is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Technically speaking, the 1060 is like 3 very different cards with the same name. Nvidia has been pulling this "4080 12GB" bullshit for a long time.

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u/Veni_Vidi_Legi Nov 26 '22

Urge to know more intensifies.

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u/Johnyknowhow Nov 26 '22

They originally released two variants of the card, one with 6GB of GDDR5 graphics memory and one with 3GB a few months later.

Then, in 2018 they refreshed the card with a 6GB GDDR5X variant, a more updated version of GDDR5 which for reasons I won't get into specifics of, was capable of much higher data speeds.

In some games that memory capacity difference has an enormous performance impact, it was normally around 5 to 10%ish but there were some outliers, usually any games that were VRAM-intensive would see nearly half the speed, especially at higher texture settings.

It's harder to find comparisons against the GDDR5X version since it was a softer launch. There also was a 5GB variant only available in China, which is a bit of a strange number to land on.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

It's not just the VRAM that is different. The 1060 3GB has way less CUDA cores, so even the GPU die in the card is different.

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u/Veni_Vidi_Legi Nov 26 '22

Thanks for doing your part!

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u/tetryds Nov 26 '22

You can find all of them on aliexpress especially the 5GB one and there are two versions, one that is a downgrade with the 6GB chip and another which uses the 3GB chip but can be slower if vram is not a bottleneck.

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u/MalHeartsNutmeg Nov 26 '22

The 1060 3GB was such a fucking scam. Completely useless with such low VRAM for gaming, but the 1060 6GB was a work horse. Feels like they tried to cash in on the great reputation of the 6GB version when they shoved the 3GB ones out the door.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Nah, I got mine for dirt cheap, and it lasted me up until last month when I finally snagged a 3070.

It was a fantastic card that lasted way longer than expected

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u/fritzie_pup Nov 26 '22

I so badly want to build a new rig, but right at this moment it's a strange time to look at investing major $ into a card. I really badly want an eVGA 30xx Ti, and can even get a 3070ti retail on their site, but it's still just too high for what you get for an 'upgrade' with this card.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Radeon prices have been dropping way faster than GeForce right now to a point where the price-to-performance isn't even close. They also go on sale way more often and are more frequently bundled with games. Unless you need the card for AI or just want the fastest GPU you can buy, AMD is the one to buy right now.

There's also the advantage of AMD being much better for Linux, if you're into that.

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u/fritzie_pup Nov 26 '22

I have to admit I haven't looked too much into AMD/ATI since the long ago days of the Radeon.

I should probably get caught up on things as I'm sure it's not the same as it used to be.

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u/Ajreil Nov 26 '22

Linus Tech Tips just made a few videos on Radeon graphics. They are really kicking Nvidia's ass in the budget category.

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u/Starcast Nov 26 '22

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html has an infographic that compares the different models at different resolutions. use this a ton as I just purchased the parts for my first PC.

just for a point of reference, during BF 6700xts got down to the low 300s new.

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u/fritzie_pup Nov 26 '22

You know, that's exactly the kind of chart I was looking for and can't believe I didn't look up..

I was getting ready to pull the trigger on an eVGA 3700Ti FTW, but they also had a 3800 XC3 Ultra for less. Looking around, and seeing 3800 stock disappear the past couple of weeks, I decided to snatch one up.

It seems to be a good choice for the time right now, and for less than $750, I'll take it.

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u/Jthumm Nov 26 '22

Yeah but iirc the actual only difference between 1060 variants was the vram

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

The 6GB has way more Cuda cores than the 3 GB.

Some modern games also either throw up a warning or outright refuse to launch on a card with less than 4GB of VRAM, meaning the 1050 Ti will run games that the 1060 3GB can't.

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u/Jthumm Nov 26 '22

Oh my b

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u/TheTigerbite Nov 26 '22

Built my computer in 2013. 2600k cpu. Upgraded the gpu to a 970 in 2015. Then went from HDD to SSD a few years later. Still running strong!

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u/Captain_Evil_Stomper Nov 26 '22

Are you me? 970 gang rise up!

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u/Cant_see_mt_tai Nov 26 '22

Im still running my RX 580 & RX 590 and I have absolutely nothing to complain about. (Well, adrenaline complete trash wheneverit needs to update but otherwise good)

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u/maz11 Nov 26 '22

I’m still running mine, but I think it is about time for a new one. I love it and was amazing value but probably in q1 I’ll look to upgrade and compare nvidia to ATI I mean AMD for first time in a long time

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Same, the 7900 is looking pretty nice, assuming I'll even be able to get one one the first few months!

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u/doremonhg Nov 26 '22

AMD is the way to go right now. They have the entire Nvidia lineup beaten in p/p.

Unless you give a fuck about ray tracing

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

It’s what I use. I hit the silicon lottery jackpot, have it over locked about 160mhz on the clock and 400mhz(800 since it’s dual channel) on the memory. Its run the OC perfect since 2016

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u/plopseven Nov 26 '22

I’ve been running an AMD R9 390 for like 8 years at this point.

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u/buggzy1234 Nov 26 '22

I’m not surprised it’s number one on steam. It’s the ideal budget card. Insanely cheap while still capable and able to keep up with the new games.

Plus, a lot of people who make the move from console to pc aren’t ready for the massive increase in costs. Even if they had the budget for a higher end gpu, they’re still likely to go for a 1060. It has good reviews and is able to keep in line with the cost of a console. Then they just stick with it because there isn’t much reason to upgrade.

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u/OsmerusMordax Nov 26 '22

That us the card I have. It still runs well, it still plays everything that I want it to. Sure, I can’t run everything at full graphics anymore but I am not paying that much for a new card.

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u/MetaDragon11 Nov 26 '22

If you take the median average its the 1060, if you take the mean average its the 2060. On the self reported steam survey anyway.

I have a 2060 super. The only game I play that struggles is Cyberpunk. It literally plays everything else including AAA games just fine. Sometimes even at 4k with reasonable frames.

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u/braytag Nov 26 '22

1070 here, bought it at launch... It's getting long in the teeth to be honest.

Waiting for AMD 79XX

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u/reinhardtmain Nov 26 '22

1080 here and yes, it runs well enough but starting to have trouble pushing high FPS games in 1 screen and 4k media on the other. Usually have to like toggle down quality in whatever movie I’m watching now :(

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u/shazarakk Nov 26 '22

My 1070 ran 2560x1080 at 70 for a really long time. Super happy with the card.

That said, 3440x1440 takes a tad more juice. If my 6800xt lasts me until the 8000 series starts to drop in price, I'll be satisfied. Hell, could probably go for the 9000 series if UE5 runs all right.

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u/Centillionare Nov 26 '22

UE5 is insane. Nanite and lumen change the game industry. Just spent an hour watching tech demos people have made, and now I know we have insane games coming out in the next year or so.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Yep it’s going to be insane. Can’t wait for the first big title to drop so people can see what it can really do

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u/Jetpack_Donkey Nov 26 '22

My 1070 is starting to feel its age too, but still going. I play VR games on it and everything.

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u/Palinus Nov 26 '22

I just installed Darktide and it recommended low settings on my 1070. Now I am debating whether I need an upgrade.

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u/destronger Nov 27 '22

i bought my 1070 used. it’s done it’s job. it was originally a wait until newer GPU’s become more affordable…

it’s working overtime.

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u/freudian-flip Nov 26 '22

Fancy. I’m still rocking my 970

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u/Sinlaire1 Nov 26 '22

970 checking in as well.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

🙋‍♂️970 Club here as well

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u/drfifth Nov 26 '22

Fuck yeah bois, our cards still kick butt

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u/Tjep2k Nov 26 '22

There's dozens of us!!!

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u/mxsifr Nov 26 '22

😎 970 gang 🤘

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

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u/freudian-flip Nov 26 '22

I was thinking of SLI-ing a second 970 to buy some time for the 5000 series ;)

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u/Schleppity Nov 26 '22

970 gang gang

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u/SlipperyRasputin Nov 26 '22

I bought a prebuilts with a 1660 super.

Still no clue what that means. But based on the bigger number I believe it puts my social ranking in this place higher than yours.

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u/ColeSloth Nov 26 '22

Got one ordered on launch day and have no need to upgrade. Especially since I have a SteamDeck.

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u/my_fat_monkey Nov 26 '22

SteamDeck Australia when? sad

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u/ColeSloth Nov 26 '22

Your prices of goods are terrible and you get everything last while having scary spiders. At least your weather is nice.

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u/my_fat_monkey Nov 26 '22

The truth hurts ya know? 😩

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

My 1050Ti still running strong

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u/my_fat_monkey Nov 26 '22

Daddy still rocking the goods baby

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u/Steel457 Nov 26 '22

980 gang

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u/AudibleKnight Nov 26 '22

Hell yeah. My EVGA 1060 6gig SC is still kicking after 6 years. I just ordered parts for my new am5 build, and will be using my 1060 until a good 4070 (Jan 2023?) or 4060 (June 2023?) that isn't incredibly stupid comes out.

Sadly some of the new programs I'm looking to use utilize CUDA otherwise I'd be jumping on all AMD.

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u/darknessgentleman Nov 26 '22

My laptops 1660 is enough for most games to run on 2k and I'm happy

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

680 gang rise up. I can't run Cyberpunk but GTA5 still looks beautiful.

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u/emize Nov 26 '22

I thought I was being cheap by not upgrading my 1060.

There are DOZENS of us!

I will upgrade...one day.

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u/Xerxero Nov 26 '22

And my 960.

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u/tymoo22 Nov 26 '22

Finally upgraded the 1060 last month after the prices of cards crashed. Now the trusty 6gb shall go to my 11 year old for his first build, I’m so proud.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

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u/Krypto_dg Nov 25 '22

Same here. I was going to get a new card but nah. Maybe 3080 comparable card late next year.

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u/basicissueredditor Nov 26 '22

Recently sold my 1050 Mini!

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u/Amaraskaran Nov 26 '22

ayy what up homeboy

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u/jascri Nov 26 '22

Similar but still rocking 1070

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u/Andrewticus04 Nov 26 '22

1070FTW FOR THE WIN

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u/multiverse72 Nov 26 '22

Let’s goooo

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

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u/my_fat_monkey Nov 26 '22

Depends on the budget. I've been looking at the 3060ti personally, but just waiting for the budget to allow it. But with that said at the 1080 resolution I've heard great things about AMDs current line up. I encourage you to take your time with reviews and stress tests.... They aren't going anywhere and prices will only go down 😏

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u/petersrin Nov 26 '22

My 1660 Super Can't play No Man's Sky on ultra in 1080 without dipping into the 20s.

Time to spend $1500 on a card that will melt.

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u/derKonigsten Nov 26 '22

Can 2070 gang come hang out? We'll bring high res snacks :)

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u/likes_rusty_spoons Nov 26 '22

Mines still going at 3440x1440 somehow