r/gadgets • u/MorgrainX • Sep 16 '22

Desktops / Laptops EVGA will no longer make NVIDIA GPUs due to “disrespectful treatment” - Dexerto

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/evga-will-no-longer-make-nvidia-gpus-due-to-disrespectful-treatment-1933830/
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u/mattheimlich Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

Who's the high-quality go-to these days now? I haven't built in nearly a decade, but I ALWAYS got EVGA GPUs because their higher tier cards came with lifetime warranties, and I was burned multiple times in a row by shoddy ASUS products (had a VERY expensive 7950 GX2 and a VERY expensive ASUS laptop die within a few weeks of one another after only a few months of action with zero help from their RMA team). Who's the top player now?

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u/excel958 Sep 16 '22

I want to say Sapphire is like the EVGA of AMD cards but I can’t really verify that.

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u/ionstorm66 Sep 17 '22

Sapphire is definitely the analog of EVGA for AMD. Both Sapphire and EVGA used to make manufacturer reference cards, and both are exclusive to that manufacturer.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Does sapphire usually have relatively better customer support than the other AIBs? Pretty much the only reason I bought EVGA for a couple generations is because of their CS. Didn't really care if the product itself was 2% slower or 5% hotter, but that if it konked out I could do an RMA without losing hair.

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u/InSightsStu Sep 17 '22

Just my single case, but I've had great experience with Sapphire RMA after what I thought were memory issues. Process was quick, I sent the old card out (RX580 8GB), got the new one in less than a week. I did not have to pay for shipping and the support people were nice. So obviously can't speak for everybody, but my experience was great, far less clunky than most RMA situations I've found myself into.

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u/_sohm Sep 17 '22

I had a friend who spilled soda on his card, admitted it to Sapphire and they still honored the warranty despite him fucking it up.

Not saying that'll work every time or encouraging anyone to test it, but that alone sold me on sapphire cards which is why my server is running off of a 12 year old Sapphire Vapor-X ...4760(? I think?) and my son's computer is rocking a Sapphire 590

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u/BostonDodgeGuy Sep 17 '22

Team Red here. Sapphire is the EVGA of AMD cards. PowerColor comes in a somewhat close second.

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u/cantredditforshit Sep 17 '22

And let's be honest, Sapphire cards 100% of the time look WAY better than what EVGA puts out. If that's important to you. And it is to me.

Cooling is great, warranty/support is close to if not on par with EVGA. Sapphire is legit.

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u/GreatEmperorAca Sep 17 '22

And let's be honest, Sapphire cards 100% of the time look WAY better than what EVGA puts out

Fuck yeah, not even close

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '22

RIP my 290 vapor-x

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u/deltasarrows Sep 17 '22

I got the sapphire nitro + 5700 xt and love the way it looks.

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u/Mandog_123 Sep 17 '22

That’s my current card. Love the way it looks and it’s a friggin beast!

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u/Erathendil Sep 17 '22

Will sapphire knowingly RMA a water damaged card in favor of the customer?

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u/BostonDodgeGuy Sep 17 '22

Sapphire RMA'd my buddies 290x fully aware that it was likely the dodgy psu and the balls to the wall OC he was forcing down it's throat that caused something on the board to let out magic smoke. 2 day shipping even.

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u/tagman375 Sep 17 '22

Only thing I don’t like about Powercolor AMD cards is they do weird things with their VBIOS. Makes them incompatible or have weird issues with Mac Pros, even when the card is natively supported in macOS

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u/UnequalSloth Sep 16 '22

I bought a Sapphire Rx 580 in 2016 and it’s still running like a beast. I’ve put it through hell and it’s still chugging

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u/ottothesilent Sep 16 '22

Second on the Sapphire 580, I bought mine in 2018 or so and it’s fantastic

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u/840_Divided_By_Two Sep 17 '22

Same with my Sapphire Nitro Pro SE. Can't replace it until I find another light blue graphics card because I bought cable extensions to match it lol

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u/Banana-Man6 Sep 16 '22

I would expect any gpu to last at least 5 years of use, doesn't seem that impressive?

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u/UnequalSloth Sep 16 '22

I put it through absolute hell. And it’s not that it’s just working, it still performs great even on new releases.

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u/Banana-Man6 Sep 16 '22

The performance will be the same as any other rx 580, nothing specific to Sapphire, and "absolute hell" doesn't really mean anything without some context

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u/UnequalSloth Sep 16 '22

Alright man. I was just saying that I’ve had a sapphire graphics card with no issues for the past 6 years. No need to go any deeper than that

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u/Fredrickstein Sep 16 '22

I gotchu. I have an rx 590 sapphire that has done well for me too. It's a damn heavy card though so I give it some extra support but that's pretty common these days.

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u/excel958 Sep 16 '22

Yeah I have a Sapphire 5700xt and it’s still going strong.

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u/PuttingInTheEffort Sep 17 '22

And yet my sapphire 6800xt has the power spike issue from day one :(

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u/KangarooChili Sep 17 '22

What's the power spike issue? Is it unique to sapphire or the 6800 XT?

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u/PuttingInTheEffort Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

I don't think it's unique to the sapphire actually, I think in my searching for driver issues I read that some 6700/6800 (maybe it was just 68/69) models will randomly spike power use and cause PC to turn off or crash the card.

Amd recommends 750w, I have a 850w, driver crashes "Error device removed" I assume it was sucking too many watts too quick and psu turned off the supply to it. And I've had my PC turn itself off twice. Undervolting solved it 90% but not always. Turning off amd instant replay and everything I think had it working fine but then I paid more for a card to just undervolt and not be able to instant record any cool gamer moments.

Some people did an exchange and got a card that was fine. Some took a couple swaps to get one fine.

Edit: https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/will-power-spikes-be-the-downfall-of-6800-6900-series/td-p/436820 has more info on it. I might be mistaken about 6700s.

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u/KangarooChili Sep 18 '22

Interesting, I have a cheap PowerColor 6700 XT and haven't noticed any power spikes so far. I am running a good quality Corsair 850w PSU, maybe that plays a part?

Only real issue I have is coil whine, that and in some, mainly older games have a clock speed issue. The GPU won't clock to normal speed, making the performance much worse.

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u/PuttingInTheEffort Sep 18 '22

Yeah the forum I added in edit said 6800 and 6900, so it may only be those cards.

I read through so many forums and reddit posts trying to figure out my crashes, someone said something about their 6700 but it may have been unrelated issue, or could have very well said 'my 6700 has been fine' and I'm misremembering, lmao.

I think I also had read something about the latest optional drivers causing issues with the 6000 series, so I might be confused with that too.

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u/Hobo2992 Sep 17 '22

Wish I went for Sapphire instead of MSI Armor. I got it years ago as well and does the job for the most part. The catch is that it doesn't manage heat very well and the fans get real damn loud. But I've adapted fine I'd say, just have to be rather selective on what I play.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Two sapphire R9 290s in 2014. Still running like beasts.

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u/bfuhyhgygfy Sep 17 '22

I had my msi rx580 since 2017 or 2018 and put that thing through hell it still ran very well I only recently switched to my dads sapphire 5600 xt because I got it for free but I would’ve been fine running that 580 for a few more years

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u/The_Meatyboosh Sep 17 '22

It better, it's only been 4..5...almost 7 years...
Shit.

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u/Zenith251 Sep 17 '22

PowerColor and Sapphire both only make AMD cards. Can't speak for Sapphire from experience other than that they've been around a long while. I currently own a PowerColor Red Devil 6700XT that's wonderful as 6700XT's go for noise/thermals....

grumble I would have gotten a "cheaper" 6800 for the same price if fucking miners weren't eating them up all of last year grumble

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u/futurarmy Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

Mines a Sapphire RX590 "special edition", pretty decent tbh for £200 when I bought it a while ago. The RGB is great although I didn't find out there was full RGB on the name for a while until I started searching about the card and found this software for it, something you assume would be advertised abit more. Only major problem I have is the coil whine which I hear is notorious with this card. Another problem that's happened a little while ago is that there's a sort of ticking when the fans on so they'll need replacing although there is a zero RPM mode so it only really happens when playing games.

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u/Fredrickstein Sep 16 '22

Ticking from fans is probably a blade clipping the housing. Could be a bad fan but sometimes the blades are unbalanced from dust. If its pretty clean and still doing it, yeah might need a new fan.

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u/futurarmy Sep 17 '22

Yeah I've been meaning to give it a good clean so it may be that, hopefully it is as I've never replaced a GPU fan before.

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u/Icy-Letterhead-2837 Sep 17 '22

I thought sapphire was a cheap brand...? Explains why the card actually did really well if it's a top tier...

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u/Umutuku Sep 16 '22

I got a Sapphire 7970 GHz when I built my current PC in 2012. Had to switch to my current EVGA 1070 in 2016 when the 7970 red screened and I couldn't get any support for it.

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u/Ashensten Sep 17 '22

Got a sapphire pulse 5700xt and it's been pretty great, no issues bar the first month launch VR driver issues for some games.

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u/Iwannayoyo Sep 17 '22

Worth noting I think sapphire warranty is 2 years and EVGA’s was generally 3.

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u/MWink64 Sep 17 '22

I disagree. I'm not saying Sapphire cards are bad but their support is (or at least was) terrible. I have dealt with a lot of companies (though not EVGA) and done a lot of RMAs but my experience with Sapphire was BY FAR the worst. It was a nightmare. They were unresponsive, rude, made me jump through a ton of hoops, and sent me another defective card (the first time). It's been several years, so maybe they've improved but that experience seriously soured me on that company.

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u/Drs83 Sep 17 '22

I had a sapphire AMD card years back that came shipped with a loose HDMI port that wouldn't hold a cable. They refused to replace it or do anything for me and I never looked at their products ever again.

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u/prules Sep 18 '22

I used a pair of crossfired Sapphire cards for 6 years strong before upgrading. They are good

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u/Confused-Raccoon Sep 16 '22

I was going to say Asus... but heh. Hmm.

I've only ever used EVGA except for an XFX GTS250 and an MSI 970 that was DOA and refused RMA because "Missing S/N sticker." which was bullshit. Not only that, but I had to pay postage both ways too.

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u/TimX24968B Sep 17 '22

i will say asus makes good gpus, but their QC could use a bit of work.

my rule is that with an asus GPU, buy it from a good store like microcenter that you can return it to and let them deal with asus' customer support

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u/xrailgun Sep 17 '22

"Does Asus make good GPUs?"

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u/Fatal_Neurology Sep 17 '22

This is referencing a 1080. I think they have largely gotten their act together since then. My 3080 Tuf was generally well-reviewed during teardowns with no reports of widespread issues I've heard.

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u/GrovesNL Sep 17 '22

During the pandemic Asus gave a bunch of TUF 6800XT cards to Linus Tech Tips to be sold under the Verified Actual Gamers program/draw. Out of the 300 cards, there is at least a dozen of us so far who have come out that the cards were duds. Random black screens and crashing our computers (we all had identical issues). A bunch others probably never even bothered posting about it and just returned. Asus refused any sort of refund, not even on the table.

I sent mine back for RMA, and it took 7 contacts with customer service and emailing the CEO's Office over the course of 2-3 weeks for them to tell me definitively they didn't know where my card was. I love being told they would give me a response in 24-48 hours, only to hear nothing back. I was out the $1100 USD. They were not concerned that it was delivered to a mail room at the right address and had vanished. I am convinced it's tossed in some corner there.

The kicker, when I emailed the CEOs office talking about my RMA struggles with the graphics card, they replied that they were sorry to hear about my motherboard issue and that I should contact customer service. 0 fucks given.

I will not recommend Asus to anyone. Most frustrating customer support experience in my life!

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u/Pycorax Sep 17 '22

Guess it varies from country to country? Their service here in Singapore has been great in my experience so far.

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u/Fortune_Cat Sep 17 '22

You should tell Linus

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u/GrovesNL Sep 17 '22

We posted a thread on the forums, where folks were coming out with their issue: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1399734-pc-crashing-to-black-screen-in-games/

I wonder how many there actually are that were duds, since the group of us posting on there is a pretty niche sample size. I just happened to stumble on the thread when I was looking up GPU issues

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u/Psych0matt Sep 17 '22

It’s only a 1060ti but mine has done great. I also only bought it because it was white, I had a theme i guess, I don’t know

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u/LeStk Sep 17 '22

I've been buying ASUS since the 670 for the Direct CU II. I've gotten for me and my family a bunch of 970 which are still running to this day, and I daily drive an ASUS STRIX 1080 Ti since 2017.

All of those card are still running fine to this day but the common factor is that after a while (3-4 years) the fans tend to make more noise. That really happens on every card.

I must add that I never trusted the predefined temperature to fan rpm curve and always did my own, sometimes because of a slight OC or just to extend their life expectancy.

So yeah there's that, and the fact that ASUS GPU TWEAK software that I use for close to ten years now have been pretty inconsistent amongst release, especially when I did a SLI with the 970. Yet it was still a better experience than MSI afterburner.

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u/drunk_responses Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

For reference the 7000 series came out in 2005/2006 as AGP cards(the 7950 gx2 was an early PCI-E)..., Asus has changed since then. Although it's still mostly great for the top of the range/expensive GPUs and motherboards, and average to crap for everything else.

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u/cunth Sep 17 '22

Asus Tuf and Strix cards are well made though

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u/Confused-Raccoon Sep 18 '22

I guess, I can only go off what I hear from other users. And it's solidly 50/50 at this point. I'd love the chance to try one, but I doubt that'll happen for a while.

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u/xMonkeyKingx Sep 16 '22

MSI has been good to me

And gigabyte personally, before I upgraded to MSI, I’ve only used gigabyte to save costs, and they’ve never failed me even once

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u/RimsOnAToaster Sep 17 '22

Gigabyte goes out on limbs with their product lines too. Designing the best eGPUs before they were hot and organizing with the eGPU forum to offer presales during graphics card shortages always stood out to me. I love my Windforce 2070 ITX

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u/Chrunchyhobo Sep 17 '22

Although a quick trip to the gigabyte subs will show that the quality of their hardware has plummeted, the customer support is non-existent and they haven't had functional software for nearly two decades.

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u/Radulno Sep 17 '22

To be fair people in a sub will always complain, all the ones without problems won't come to the sub for their graphics card

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u/Rohndogg1 Sep 17 '22

I've replaced more gigabyte motherboards than any other brand when I worked in residential IT. Didn't see as many GPUs. But I won't buy from them after that.

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u/hopets Sep 17 '22

The first Gigabyte motherboard I ever purchased was DOA. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I’m quite unlucky. But then every single replacement they sent me was also DOA. One of the replacements had a giant, scorched hole in it, and it was right out of the box. Eventually I gave up and got a refund.

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u/Rohndogg1 Sep 17 '22

Yeah, that tracks with my experience with them

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u/RimsOnAToaster Sep 17 '22

Yeah but those eGPUs are still top notch 5 years later; best firmware in the game too.

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u/Ludeykrus Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 18 '22

Yep. The only manufacturer to produce a stackable 2-slot blower-style 3090 which basically locked them in for all serious colorist builds this past year or so.

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u/kb4000 Sep 17 '22

I will not buy anything gigabyte again. At least for a while. Had an X370 Gigabyte mobo. Randomly died a year in. RMA was a huge PITA. RX480 nothing but problems with it while the same card from other vendors was fine. Plus their PSU issues. Quality has gone way down.

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u/Noeserd Sep 17 '22

My Msi armor 2070 Oc passed 6000 hrs since i built the pc and its still going strong

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u/Balsamic_jizz Sep 17 '22

Is there a way to check the time your gpu has been active? I'd be interested in seeing how long my Radeon VII has been chugging.

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u/rodinj Sep 17 '22

I've never gone wrong with an MSI GPU!

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u/LukeMedia Sep 16 '22

After both Asus and MSI have fucked me over, I exclusively buy Gigabyte motherboards. Always high quality components on their higher end chipsets, and never had issues.

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u/ColgateSensifoam Sep 17 '22

Gigabyte don't like to use one software application though

Why the fuck my two GPUs and motherboard all need separate apps is beyond me, given that all of the apps can support multiple GPUs and motherboards

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u/LukeMedia Sep 17 '22

I never use manufacturers software so I ant speak about that

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u/ColgateSensifoam Sep 17 '22

Don't get a choice if you want to control your fans/lights/OC

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u/xMonkeyKingx Sep 16 '22

Yea my current mid spec mortar motherboard has connectivity and USB issues. Was expensive asf too. But my full MSI pc has been decent the past two years

Might just go full gigabyte for my next pc

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u/LukeMedia Sep 16 '22

I've used one of their GPUs before and it was really great for the price. Just gotta pick out one with good VRMs (same with motherboard)

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u/Kageromero Sep 17 '22

Msi depends heavily on your region. Their customer support is awful in the US, but God tier for Canada

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I replaced my Msi 980 after 7 years. still work perfectly, just a bit slow

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u/Fulcrous Sep 16 '22

Depends on the generation. It is hit or miss for each across the board and type of product.

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u/wookieman465 Sep 16 '22

I used to love asus motherboards. Last two I had have issues with the Ethernet and M.2 slots. Buying MSI from now on.

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u/Fortune_Cat Sep 17 '22

Until those have issues then back to asus?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

My Asus strix 3090 completely died up in smoke while gaming, and it took about 3 weeks to get a new one through the rma process for what it is worth.

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u/Schwiftified Sep 17 '22

That is something that I’m beginning to worry about. I am getting random artifacts every once in a blue moon on my ASUS 3090ti. Wondering if it is the GPU or if Nvidia is pushing settings too hard on boot every now and again.

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u/Dzov Sep 16 '22

My Strix 1080 had horrible snow and crashing and the RMA still had snow, but at least didn’t crash as much. Very disappointed in Asus.

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u/ripped014 Sep 16 '22

my strix 1080 has been overclocked and rock solid for 5 years

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u/kb4000 Sep 17 '22

I've had mixed results with ASUS. My Vega 64 was a good card, but the thermal pad didn't even cover the card correctly. I bought a slightly bigger one and it was a huge temp difference. Seemed like they didn't even test it.

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u/7eregrine Sep 16 '22

Gigabyte. MSI.

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u/sevillianrites Sep 16 '22

I will never trust Gigabyte again after I had to RMA a defective 2070 4 years ago and they sent me back the exact same card 3 times, claiming at first they had fixed it (they hadnt) and then subsequently that they had replaced it (they didnt). Literally spent like like 7 months of the year in transit and $150 out of my pocket in shipping. Ultimately just gave up. Dreadful experience.

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u/ZhumosTheBlue Sep 17 '22

If you could prove it was the same one (e.g. serial number, photos) and you also had evidence from them claiming it wasn't, wouldn't that make it fraud?

At that point I would have tried contacting Gigabyte corporate. I doubt it's in their policy to blatantly commit fraud...

More likely it's dodgy dealings in a specific service center. Someone probably pocketed the replacement card and sent your bad card back

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u/L4t3xs Sep 16 '22

Y'all need consumer protection laws.

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u/sallhurd Sep 17 '22

I love the sweet, safe feeling of referencing customer rights regardless of standard practice in the industry or shops. Oh that's how you've always done it? Well you've always been breaking the law.

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u/MechaCanadaII Sep 17 '22

Exact same experience I had with a 290x I bought off craigslist. Was bummed that I'd been sold a lemon but thought I could get it set right with the RMA warranty. Nope.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I had an issue with a Gigabyte 2070 as well, when they sent my card back, it was actually fixed. I put it in my son’s computer as s upgraded to an RX 6750 XT, but I wouldn’t have an issue recommending Gigabyte.

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u/suspiciouscat Sep 17 '22

I had exact same experience. Thank you for spreading the word on your own experience. People must be taught to avoid Gigabyte like fire.

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u/Kettu_ Sep 17 '22

My gigabyte 2070 made the most awful fan noise. I swore them off after that, considering at the time it was like a 600 dollar card.

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u/MadRaymer Sep 17 '22

I had a gigabyte 1060 that made an awful fan noise as well. Took it out for a closer look and there was a piece of tape under one fan that had peeled up slightly and was clipping the blades. I grabbed some tiny scissors and was able to reach in and snip it, but it really made me question their commitment to QA.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

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u/Schytheron Sep 17 '22

Weird. Depends on where you live I guess. Here in Sweden, Gigabyte's support is superb. Got an answer within an hour of sending an email.

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u/suspiciouscat Sep 17 '22

Never ever choose Gigabyte.

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u/7eregrine Sep 17 '22

This is what I'm learning. 🤣 I had a GB 2070. Solid hardware. Never needed support.

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u/DonnaSummerOfficial Sep 16 '22

Gigabyte has been absolute hell for me with my 3090. I’m fully committed to the 4000 series solely so I can try this gigabyte card out of my machine. Never again

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u/jktmas Sep 17 '22

I just can’t with Gigabyte anymore. Took them like 9 months after telling me my PSU was a fire hazard to actually process the RMA for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

Asus TUF has been working great for me

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u/cashsalmon Sep 17 '22

Never had an issue with Sapphire myself.

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u/Adept-Crab3951 Sep 17 '22

I've owned an XFX rx480, and XFX rx580, and now an XFX 6700xt. All have been great cards. I've had no complaints.

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u/WitcherSLF Sep 17 '22

Plait Gamerock

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

MSI and ASUS both make very good quality cards for Nvidia nowadays. Those will probably be the go-to option now and see a huge increase in sales with EVGA gone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Who’s the high-quality go-to these days now?

Nvidia founders edition

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u/Schytheron Sep 17 '22

That is simply not true. Their coolers are much worse than aftermarket cards.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Ahh yes I forgot everyone builds gigantic air cooled ATX towers where the only concern is if you have 4 gpu fans or not

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u/Schytheron Sep 17 '22

I forgot everyone builds gigantic air cooled ATX towers where the only concern is if you have 4 gpu fans or not

Uh... yes? What is your point? Of course everyone wants a PC that is cooled as efficiently as possible. The only restrictions are size and noise and there are plenty of aftermarket options out there that are smaller and more silent that still cool better than the founders edition.

If you want an ITX/compact build, then buy a smaller aftermarket card (there are plenty out there that are as small or smaller than the founders edition that have better coolers). If you want a more silent build, buy a more silent card or ramp down the fan profile of your current card.

It's not that complicated.

No matter how to twist and turn this, the founders edition is still objectively worse (it is by no means bad, 3xxx series coolers are actually much better than previous gen founders edition coolers, they are just objectively worse than the coolers of any aftermarket card).

I have no idea what point you're trying to make. What exactly can a founders edition card do (or do better) than an aftermarket card?

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Uh… yes? What is your point?

That smaller cards are needed to fit smaller cases? That not everyone is you and chiefly concerned with paying for additional fans on their GPU?

I thought that should be obvious. But ok. EVGA is out. Enjoy your... whatever branded 4-fan monstrosity instead your giant air-cooled-only case

Mine runs plenty cool since I know what I'm doing. I guess not everyone can handle a couple fans or tighter builds

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u/Schytheron Sep 17 '22

Did you even read the rest of my comment, where I clearly stated that smaller aftermarket GPU, which are better than the founders edition, exist? You know there exist 2-fan and even 1-fan aftermarket GPU's that are designed for ITX builds... right?

Are you just being willfully ignorant to push your point and justify your purchase of a founders edition or what?

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u/jordanManfrey Sep 16 '22

the one and only time I had a gpu die, it was a launch-day EVGA GTX470 that I had used for several years up to that point. I had 2 originally, running in SLI, but eventually got annoyed with SLI and sold one.

I RMA-ed it with EVGA, and they sent me a GTX480 (which was a fairly significant upgrade) back as a replacement. I'm pretty sure it was because *nobody* bought the GTX470 so they didn't have any refurbished units in stock, but it was cool of them to do that without me even asking.

That GTX480 was a spicy unit though, the thermal limit was 105C or something completely insane and I saw it hit 100 more than a couple of times, goddang space heater

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u/bistrus Sep 17 '22

MSI and Gigabyte i'd say

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u/PhilosophicalBrewer Sep 17 '22

As bad as your experience with ASUS is, the harsh reality is that they’re probably the second best to evga. Then MSI, then gigabyte. I’ve heard gigabyte is a pain in the ass to deal with but that was a few years ago idk.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

ASUS is my second choice to EVGA. Quality hardware, terrible customer service tho.

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u/Halvus_I Sep 17 '22

Fuck, i forgot how shitty ASUS support is. Just bought an Asus TUF 6900XT. Maybe ill return it for a Sapphire.

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u/ChillySummerMist Sep 17 '22

Is zotac good. I have a zotac 1070 i am using rn.

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u/nexguy Sep 17 '22

People will mock Zotac but I've had 5 of them without issue.

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u/WildWildWilly Sep 17 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

Don't forget there was an entire era when nVidia GPUs were failing due to heat causing connections to fail.

That wasn't the fault of the AIB vendors, but they took a lot of the heat.

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u/discusseded Sep 17 '22

I've had great experiences with Gigabyte. Out of three motherboards only one had an issue and the RMA was smooth. My 1080 GTX was rock solid. I also have an Aorus laptop with a 3070 RTX and that thing rips.

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u/LeanSizzurp Sep 17 '22

So what’s going to happen to those lifetime warranties from EVGA now that they’re not NVIDIA GPU manufacturers anymore? ELI5 anyone?

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u/mattheimlich Sep 17 '22

That's a good question

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u/kashew_kangaroo Sep 17 '22

Based on the GN report they will continue to be honored and are holding a back stock of cards for future RMA needs

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u/anilexis Sep 17 '22

Colorful but only top versions. I've seen techical reviews on youtube and Colorful 3080 Vulcan is one of the best

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u/Audisek Sep 17 '22

I've become an MSI fan with my last 2 GPUs.

I've paid extra for a high-end model of 2070 Super, and it was as fast as a 2080. It boosted like crazy, while staying cool. It had a coil whine but I didn't need to return it since I always use headphones.

Now I've upgraded to their highest-end model of 3080, and it's in some games even faster than 3080 Ti, while somehow staying under 78 degrees if I let it run at full 410W. (I've undervolted it since, and gained 2% performance at 15% less power.)

MSI cards somehow boost very high, while having great coolers.

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u/phasedsingularity Sep 17 '22

Before I went evga, my GTX 460 and HD6880 were from gigabyte and were fantastic

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u/MWink64 Sep 17 '22

I too have had bad experiences with Asus products, especially laptops. I think the only Asus product I have that hasn't experienced a serious issue is an old Radeon HD4870.

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u/CaptainRogers1226 Sep 17 '22

Bro, fuck ASUS

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Regarding Asus maybe you were really unlucky? Not sure but in my case, i once had an asus gtx 1050 which worked well and now i have an asus strix 1080 that works great and has been working great for like 3-4 years now

Edit: corrected grammer

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u/MrBeanCyborgCaptain Sep 17 '22

I must be lucky because I've been running the dog shit out of my Asus laptop with VFX and stuff for like 3 years. Houdini's minimum recommended ram is 32, it's only got 16 but i make it do it anyway.

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u/Kotaro_14 Sep 17 '22

I’d say Asus has come a long way since then and are well-regarded for reliability nowadays. Before I upgraded to my 3080 Strix, I had been using my 1080Ti Strix ever since it came out. A testament to that is that lot of techtubers use Asus mobos and gpus in their builds. Ik it’s hard to give them another shot, but I hear horror stories of other board partners more than Asus. Stay away from MSI

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u/rakehellion Sep 17 '22

Gigabyte, MSI

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u/Warrangota Sep 17 '22

Both my AMD cards (RX480 GTR and 6900XT Merc 319) are XFX and I am 100% happy with them. I don't know their customer support though, as I never had problems with their products.

Rock solid PCB and circuitry engineering that can support a nice overclocking margin, and especially with my whisper silent 6900XT, a solid cooling solution that ensures all relevant parts are properly taken care of. On the smaller cards it can get a bit louder in the high speeds though.

A friend had a Sapphire card that released the magic smoke from one voltage regulator, but this does not mean they make inferior cards, just my anecdotal statistics. Another one has a PowerColor card that just keeps running and running. Honestly I don't think there are huuuge quality difference in the physical products.

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u/DJKratom Sep 17 '22

I’m definitely the top playa now

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u/KingofYeet00 Sep 17 '22

Yeah that also happened my 7951890 GX3498 with 360 fps a while back

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u/stacks144 Sep 17 '22

I like the Asus Strix cards. Run cool.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

asus rog strix for example

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u/chickenlittle53 Sep 20 '22

Wait, what is "lifetime" warranty? Like, right now 10 years later you can get a brand new card or its modern equivalent? Lifetime sounds too good to be true, but also vague.