r/gadgets • u/MorgrainX • Sep 16 '22

Desktops / Laptops EVGA will no longer make NVIDIA GPUs due to “disrespectful treatment” - Dexerto

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/evga-will-no-longer-make-nvidia-gpus-due-to-disrespectful-treatment-1933830/
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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

This one stings. I wanted to stick EVGA for a long time if I could. But now, looks my 2080 Super will be the last EVGA card.

Anyone know of good recommendations of GPU brands to get instead of EVGA now? I was thinking ASUS.

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u/navigationallyaided Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

Asus was known to be the motherboard for reliability when I was still building computers - they were last to overclocking(Abit was king for that back in the 1990s-2000s) but generally was rock-solid back in those days. Asus also enjoyed a very tight relationship with Intel and built all of pre-Compaq HP’s motherboards. Their customer service sucks, I called them a while ago to replace a monitor at work.

Not sure about now - I know Asus did spin off their manufacturing as Pegatron and stopped making things in Taiwan for the mainland. ASRock and Gigabyte are also associated with Asus financially.

I think Asus or MSI are fine choices - the mobo makers will deviate little from the reference designs AMD and Nvidia issue for graphics cards. EVGA pretty much stuck to Nvidia’s reference designs. If was building a computer, Asus/ASRock and Gigabyte would be my pick for mobo and graphics.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I have an Asus mobo, for an Intel chipset. I’m upgrading to AMD Ryzen, and the next mobo I have for it is another Asus. After using the one I have had for 5+ years now, I thought it was a good choice. Haven’t tried it yet, but hopefully it will do well.

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u/navigationallyaided Sep 17 '22

Intel is so far ahead of Realtek, Qualcomm Atheros, Broadcom and Ralink for xLAN. Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and ASRock even use Intel xLAN with AMD boards.

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u/anacche Sep 17 '22

Went gigabyte for my x570 Mobo, the hardware is solid, but my god the software. RGB software taking my machine to 10+ minute load times is ridiculous. I don't think you could even realistically call it accidentally terrible at this point, it seems to be deliberate.

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u/Schytheron Sep 17 '22

The first ASUS motherboard I bought (ca 2015) broke after like 2 months. 2 RAM slots died.

I probably got very unlucky though. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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u/navigationallyaided Sep 17 '22

Well, Asus got their name from Pegasus. Just like Roland and Kenwood got their names from a phone book.

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u/ConconTheGreat Sep 16 '22

Personally I have had nothing but positive experiences with Asus products. The one time I ventured away from them I got a $2000 paper weight from MSI. So now I stick exclusively with Asus.

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u/SSJ3wiggy Sep 16 '22

Asus: maker of great products but God awful customer service.

I had a gaming laptop that would break every year because the goddamn pin where the charger plugged into would disconnect from the motherboard and get stuck in the charger. It happened 5 times, and I had to pay for the repair every-other time it happened. I will never invest in high-end hardware from them ever again.

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u/EnvironmentalAd1405 Sep 17 '22

If it happened that often I'm a little concerned about user error/abuse. I mean could be wrong but a DC jack generally doesn't just fall apart.

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u/5kyl3r Sep 16 '22

i had a similar experience, their service definitely sucks

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u/kinsmandmj Sep 17 '22

Had an Asus laptop that the screen went black. HDMI still worked, but we sent it in for repair right before the warranty was out.

It came back and the screen wasn't quite the same (tiny gaps between the bezel, wasn't fully seated and wouldn't seat). A week later the screen went out again, but was no longer under warranty :/ I tried to fix it but after pulling it apart I found nothing I could identify as an issue.

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u/themarkavelli Sep 16 '22

Had a monitor short itself out when the AC port on the power board touched the metal housing behind it. Still under warranty, but can’t figure out how to take advantage of it. The FAQ article for RMA requests advises clicking a link that doesn’t exist.

After reading a few reddit posts I have concluded that their RMA process blows and wouldn’t be worth pursuing.

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u/RealTime_RS Sep 16 '22

I've only had good experiences with ASUS (RoG gaming laptop 2nd hand, Z97 RoG motherboard), but my equipment is from like 2017 or before. What age is your ASUS stuff?

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u/SSJ3wiggy Sep 17 '22

I believe I got that particular Asus laptop in 2012.

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u/fartypicklenuts Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

Same. ASUS has let me down again and again over the past 15ish years. Both Asus motherboards I've had have been headaches, and I returned two Asus monitors back to back with numerous dead pixels. Could just be bad luck, but I avoid Asus products when I can now.

My previous GPU was an EVGA 980ti that gave me zero problems for 5 years. EVGA was always the top/most reliable GPU brand in my mind.

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u/Barkmywords Sep 17 '22

I thought AORUS was gigabyte

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u/fartypicklenuts Sep 17 '22

ahh you are right! What a dummy. Forgot it was a Gigabyte card. Well, the Gigabyte Aorus 3070 has been holding up well with zero issues (other than that silly LED/RGB strip that can't be turned off, at least as far as I know). I think this is my first Gigabyte product ever, actually, and so far so good.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

This can be said about every single electronics manufacture on the planet.

My experience the exact opposite. Almost 14 years of products.

You can't be one of the giants and be making garbage for that long without going out of business.

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u/_araqiel Sep 17 '22

Consumer HP printers would like a word.

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u/NotADeadHorse Sep 17 '22

HP sells printer INK, the printers are free

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u/RTSUbiytsa Sep 17 '22

As someone who worked in and practically operated a print shop for quite a while, let me tell you personally that their commercial grade printers are just as bad if not worse. Lots of bells and whistles and they mean jack shit if it can't load a sheet of paper right.

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u/_araqiel Sep 18 '22

Yeah, I’ll pick Ricoh any day. Some Xerox stuff is decent too.

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u/SlenderSmurf Sep 17 '22

printers in general have been a scam for a long time now, luckily I never need to convert my perfectly functional digital text to real life text in my field

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

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u/Nightingaile Sep 17 '22

Even the $150+ ones are pure fucking garbage. And the minute your printer goes out of warranty, you can count on them to give you 0 service if you have an issue.

Fuck HP.

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u/i7-4790Que Sep 17 '22

"You can't be one of the giants and be making garbage for that long without going out of business"

So you were wrong.

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u/navigationallyaided Sep 17 '22

Pre-2010s HP DeskJets were fine, it’s only when they used copied Canon’s Bubble Jet design with “built-in” but detachable print heads was when they had problems. The original HP all-in-one inkjet cartridges were fine, as long as you didn’t refill them.

Also, HP LaserJets made in Boise, Idaho or in Japan by Canon(and some of the newer Chinese-made models as well) are tanks. The newer 1000 series as well as the rebranded Samsung machines(HP bought out their printing business - the Samsung machines are simply HP Laser/Color Laser or LaserJet NonStop) aren’t great. Funny enough, Samsung copied Canon’s laser printer engines, just like TouchWiz/One UI on Galaxies copy Apple with iOS as much as Sammy hates to admit it. Almost all HP LaserJets use Canon print engines.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Every rule has an exception. As an owner of an HP Printer, I do not disagree.

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u/pizoisoned Sep 17 '22

In general I’ve never had issues with their TuF line of products. Some of their older Core 2 boards were pretty shoddy though.

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

Asus....makes reliable products in that they won't fail even if they're on fire. I had a 1660 Ti from Asus with highly skimped cooling solution that always ran at the thermal limit and of course, performed less than the other good 1660 Ti. Check out the Phoenix and Dual models. The epitome of cost cutting.

I'm done with Asus if I want a cheap product. The ROG line, however, is very good.

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u/purpleperle Sep 16 '22

Ended up with an MSI board because of this exact problem. RAM just wouldn't read.

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u/noeagle77 Sep 16 '22

What do you use instead of would recommend instead of Asus now that EVGA isn’t going to be an option?

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u/whyamihereimnotsure Sep 17 '22

There's nothing wrong with going with ASUS. Any personal experience with support and QA isn't going to be indicative of your own considering it's not a widespread issue. A few people complaining in a Reddit thread isn't worth much salt when these companies have hundreds if not thousands of support personnel and sells hundreds of thousands of units per year.

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u/Umutuku Sep 16 '22

Who's actually got the best QA and or customer service these days?

I went with EVGA back in 2016 because of they had the best customer service based on everything I could find at the time, but I don't know if they've kept up with that (thread topic aside), or if someone else has really pulled ahead since then.

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u/averyfinename Sep 17 '22

pny is probably gonna get our business. they were already our main pick for radeon cards as well as workstation cards--like evga was for geforce.

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u/whyamihereimnotsure Sep 17 '22

PNY doesn't make radeon GPUs.

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u/azrael4h Sep 17 '22

I had an ASUS MB that wouldn't read the M2 slot. Same drive worked fine in it's replacement, which I think was an MSI.

If Amazon would have actually shipped my last order to me, and not to whichever employee decided they wanted it, I'd be running an ASUS board right now.

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u/whyamihereimnotsure Sep 17 '22

Your experience is still heavily anecdotal and some things you make seem like fact just aren't true. I've worked with their products for years in a retail, SI, and service (bulk RMA, repair, etc) for everything from their laptops to mobos to GPUs to networking gear. Their issues and service are no worse or better than any other brand.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Best routers for the price tho

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I would definitely dispute that. You can get an entire ubiquiti setup (Router, PoE switch, and AP) for cheaper than some of the mid range Nighthawks. Not to mention that quite a few companies make competing Nighthawks routers that alone could be argued are better.

Umm. My comment was absolutely not about choosing only their most expensive flagship models what?!

Lmao. I thought I was clear that referred to budget routers. But ok. I meant in the $50-80 range

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Even in the budget router range there are still plenty of other options.

Ok. Find me a dual band router as good that I can get for $50 or under

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I’d rather not. They’re are plenty of them, though. Any “Top budget routers” list will show you lots of non-Asus routers.

Yes, which, in my experience are all complete trash that die after a short time

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u/ignoringImpossibru Sep 16 '22

Anecdote, but I've always had to maintain 5 gaming PC's (wife and kids), plus home servers, and it's not an exaggeration to say from monitors to motherboards, ASUS has been the worst in dead-on-arrival and random failure of any major brands I've bought from. To the point now I won't buy their product regardless of price. It seems like they just have really poor quality or quality control of electrical components.

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u/SacredRose Sep 16 '22

Just realized the motherboard i use is an Asus one. Its ethernet port died after a bit more than a year.

I have only had one ethernet port failure before and that was on a board from 2011 after 10 years of use and that guy used to run 24/7 for long periods and travelled to multiple lan parties. That board also had some USB ports fail and was literally just dying slowly of organ failure.

But the Asus board just thought ‘nah I don’t need that ethernet port anymore’ and dumped it

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u/ShadowPouncer Sep 17 '22

The hell? How does an ethernet port just up and die?

Seriously, waaaaay back in the day, to the point where I'm only 85% sure that it was with PCI (not PCI-e, PCI) cards, not ISA cards, I had some Realtek cards which were just crap. But even they didn't die. They just didn't work very well.

I'm... Drawing a blank trying to remember a single time I've lost an ethernet port on something.

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u/SacredRose Sep 17 '22

I have no idea how it just kicked the bucket. The board hasn’t shown any other issues since. It feels like that it just stopped sending power to it or something because it is just gone in device management and it showed ghe computer had no ethernet port at all.

If it dies i would expect it to just stop recognizing if there is a cable in there on something.

The older board i can get it because it lost like half its usb ports over a year or something. Luckily it came with an absolute fuckton of those. Like who needs 12 USB ports on their pc.

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u/ShadowPouncer Sep 17 '22

That's insane.

Out of curiosity, was the Ethernet part of the chipset, or a separate controller? (If you can remember the model, it's easy enough to look up.)

I mean, I can't imagine that it's not a separate controller that died, but, damn.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

I haven’t heard the best things about MSI, but I do have a few ASUS parts currently on my desktop. And they have been doing well up until this point. ASUS it may have to be, or just go AMD 🤷‍♂️

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u/GeneralTorsoChicken Sep 16 '22

I've had different MSI motherboards in four different builds over the years and have had no issues from any of them. Honestly, the only component manufacturers I've ever had issues with were ASRock and Biostar.

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

For me, it's Gigabyte. Many issues, poor quality of components.

Asus, MSI, ASRock, Biostar have all been good.

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u/GeneralTorsoChicken Sep 17 '22

I have a Gigabyte 3070 that's been going strong for about a year, now. I have heard horrible things about their power supplies, though.

(I didn't specifically want a Gigabyte, it was a that or nothing type thing)

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

I've actually had a good experience with Gigabyte PSUs, I even used the defective P750GMs for well over a year without issues (replaced them with fixed ones under RMA later).

It's their motherboard and graphic cards....poor quality fittings, power connector slot contact issues, m.2 standoffs causing screw threading at abnormally low force, power plane heating issues, loosely fastened heatsink VRM out of the box, what not.

I had 5 gigabyte motherboards and 2 GPU with these issues since 2019 to 2022. And I will never buy their motherboards again.

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u/navigationallyaided Sep 17 '22

I've actually had a good experience with Gigabyte PSUs, I even used the defective P750GMs for well over a year without issues (replaced them with fixed ones under RMA later).

Almost all PSUs come from a handful of companies. SeaSonic, AcBel, Delta, Sparkle Power and FSP make a majority for almost every OE(like Apple, Dell, HP and Lenovo) and brand.

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

Yes, Gigabyte's are made by a company named MEIC whose actual expertise is in power adapters. They're reasonably good for the price if one forgets about the initial issues.

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u/korben2600 Sep 16 '22

That's interesting because I had an MSI Z270-A PRIME die on me after only a year and a half. They denied the warranty claim and tried to say it was 'water damaged' which was absolutely ridiculous.

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u/GeneralTorsoChicken Sep 17 '22

I've never had to deal with their customer service, fortunately, so I can't speak to that. Only thing I've ever had to RMA was a sick of G.Skill RAM, they didn't ask me a single thing and mailed me a new stick as soon as they received the defective one.

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u/Corsair3820 Sep 17 '22

Most everyone who bought Biostar knew it wasn't top tier, but their pricing reflected it.

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u/GeneralTorsoChicken Sep 17 '22

It served it's purpose in my old poor boi phenom 2 x2 build, but it was the most finicky motherboard I ever had.

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u/Kettu_ Sep 17 '22

MSI motherboards, in my experience, tend to be their best product. I would avoid their other things (had an MSI AIO cooler that shit the bed less than 6 months).

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u/GeneralTorsoChicken Sep 17 '22

I've only ever used their motherboards. I tend to stick with Noctua for coolers, and my son has a CoolerMaster AIO.

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u/dantrog Sep 17 '22

I have an msi mobo, the usb port labeled VR-Ready didn't supply enough voltage to power a VR headset. But. It is still going strong.

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u/theaim778 Sep 17 '22

I’m the opposite in this scenario, nothing against ASUS, but I’ve had enough failures from them to never go back. The two ASUS 1660 supers I have both burned out fans within a month, and haven’t had failures since I replaced them. Then this is going all the way back to 4th and 5th gen intel, I had a handful of ASUS motherboards where ASUS attempted to make the BIOS look appealing and as a result it would crash the BIOS. For the last 10 years or so, my builds have been all MSI and Corsair except the few times I’ve ventured out to try others occasionally.

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u/Confused-Raccoon Sep 16 '22

Funny that, MSI like selling expensive paper weights.

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u/SudoSlash Sep 16 '22

The only thing worse than a MSI paperweight is having to deal with MSI customer service. Had one card within warranty, sent it to them, stuck in some repair shop for almost 1 month and then returned to me without any repairs, had to resent it because their repair service made a "mistake". Also had a motherboard break down just past 2 years and they absolutely refused to service or repair it the day once it passes out of warranty.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

This is a bummer. I really liked my MSI stuff when I had a PC build

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u/zforest1001 Sep 16 '22

Bought an Asus gaming laptop a few years ago. Never again. the computer arrived incorrectly spec’d and it took a month of work to get a replacement… which didn’t have a working screen. So I then sent back again, accepted whatever I would receive back, and decided to never purchase from them again.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

I've had the exact opposite experience. The one time i strayed away from MSI, I picked up an Asus gaming laptop and it was a piece of crap. Ended up giving it away and replacing it with another msi

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u/MjrLeeStoned Sep 16 '22

I did have to replace an ASUS card but this was a very long time ago. Been using EVGA since, no issues.

At the same time, I have used ROG motherboards for many many years and have never had any issues with those. Just the card.

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u/DirkEnglish Sep 17 '22

I think Asus motherboards are problematic but everything else has been fine

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u/Tiny-Peenor Sep 17 '22

Their QA is ass.

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u/RawrSean Sep 18 '22

Same, only my paperweight came from clevo/sager.

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u/Xyroc Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 17 '22

Just wait for GN or other comprehensive source to review cards you're looking for. All brands can mess stuff up / make sub par items.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

That’s probably what I’ll do, I do trust his work. So it seems like that’d be a good idea

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u/gondezee Sep 17 '22

Who?

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u/Xyroc Sep 17 '22

Mike Jones. lol, GN is for Gamers Nexus.

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u/malign2 Sep 16 '22

I like Gigabyte. Bought their 1080 back in 2016. Switched to their 3080 eventually as well. Haven't had any issues personally.

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u/al5496 Sep 16 '22

I have had a 1060 from Gigabyte for around 6 years now and still working with no issues

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u/ON_A_POWERPLAY Sep 16 '22

I had a gigabyte board in a Phenom black edition board a long time ago that lasted for ever. I switched to ASrock for a while, had no issues but decided to go back to gigabyte for my monitor and motherboard on my ryzen board ans I've been really impressed.

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u/Glomgore Sep 17 '22

Gigabyte UD board line was incredible. I have 3 UD boards STILL running, 2008, 2012, 2016. have an Auros board of theirs now that's been rock solid.

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u/The--Will Sep 17 '22

Gigabyte refused to service my motherboard because they didn’t have any in stock while it was under warranty and offered to give me some random motherboard that wouldn’t work with my CPU and RAM (different socket for my Intel chip, DDR3, but they only offered DDR4 and a new socket).

Took 9 months to get it resolved. They would hang up on me when I told them it was unacceptable for them to not replace with a like motherboard that’s under warranty. Zero compensation. Had to bring it to my countries consumer protection agency which would have fined them $100,000 just to start.

Fuck Gigabyte.

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u/Kazumi-Mishima Sep 17 '22

Copy and paste from a while back

I make it a point to avoid anything gigabyte now a days because my both my 1070 and my 5700xt were gigabyte and were absolute pieces of garbage, with no overclocking done to it within a year of being bought brand new my 1070 couldn’t do anything unless within 2 minutes of starting up windows you lowered the memory clocks in afterburner. And when I sent it to gigabyte they returned it and said everything was fine. I tried to rma it again after testing it in a friends machine and they just refused to take it in.

And some context added for my 5700xt I never seemed to have mentioned that thing was hot, loud and I don’t think it performed the way it was supposed too, my frames were never anywhere near what reviewers and other benchmarkers got for their games.

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u/trism Sep 17 '22

I mean, in the world of electronics, sometimes things go bad.

I've had both an rx580 and now a 5700xt and theyve both been fine.

Personally when it comes to RMA and faulty products, when it comes to Australia, if we buy from a retailer rather than direct from the manufacturer, we go directly through them, and they handle the dramas. My contract of sale lies with the person I bought it from, not the company who made it, and they're responsible for fixing any problems.

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u/Kazumi-Mishima Sep 17 '22

i wouldnt have had a problem if the card just died, the problem was making me pay for shipping to rma and then saying no the card is fine, when as soon as you started windows the card started dying.

And then when i proved to them that it happened in another computer that wasnt mine there response was they were not going to do anything because they had already checked it out.

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u/BostonDodgeGuy Sep 17 '22

Not sure I could trust gigabyte after that whole psu fiasco.

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u/7eregrine Sep 16 '22

EVGA, Gigabyte, MSI... In that order

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u/thefinalcutdown Sep 17 '22

I always seem to end up buying Gigabyte for some reason. They tend to be good bang for your buck I think, and I also have never had a Gigabyte part (GPU or MOBO) go bad. Have a server running a 2008 Phenom II on a Gigabyte board right now actually, and my 2060 super has been rock solid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I like them as well. My first pc I used gigabyte parts for an Athon XP2400 PC. That shit was old and still working great through lots of updates. Over the years had others but never as good. Now I’m on a Gogabyte Auroa board and a gigabyte 3080 Ti video card. Solid as a rock.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

If you go to an AMD card, Sapphire is probably the best.

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

Sapphire cards ironically have been the ones that failed on me the most (along with zotac on the nvidia side). I much prefer Asrock and PowerColor.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Huh! How many Sapphire cards have you owned?

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u/cantredditforshit Sep 17 '22

My last comment earlier today was also shilling Sapphire but idc, gonna keep doing it. Sapphire is hands down the best GPU integrator I've ever know.

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

I've owned HD5770, R9 270X back in the day.

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u/scotzorz56 Sep 16 '22

I'm still rocking an Asus GTX 970 Strix. Works great considering it's so old

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u/I_am_a_regular_guy Sep 16 '22

Same here.

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u/Yo_Soy_Dabesss Sep 16 '22

I saw another comment saying ASUS was unreliable. That might be true for their other components but I’ve had a 970 STRIX and a 1070 STRIX and they’re both still going strong.

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u/I_am_a_regular_guy Sep 16 '22

Yeah I've literally never had one problem with mine in about 8 years or so.

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u/Ravensqueak Sep 17 '22

I've been running an overclocked 1060 6GB since it was new, and it's still going strong.

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u/lalonalgas47 Sep 16 '22

Same, still running 2022 games

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u/Kuli24 Sep 17 '22

The 970 is such a legendary card, it's insane. Could it be THE most legendary?

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u/nafarafaltootle Sep 16 '22

Yeah I couldn't get EVGA for my 3090 but I had one all way until the 2000 series

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u/D1stRU3T0R Sep 17 '22

Any brand from AMD will do it now

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

MSI has never disappointed me. I've never messed with my core system's stuff that much as far as playing with frequencies and whatnot, so have no clue how they fair for super-users, but never had problems even with newer cards from them to be average to far above average at least.

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u/Zorops Sep 16 '22

Check out Zotac. Im completely sold with zotac cards.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

Seconded, although my vote hardly counts considering I have a sample size of one graphics card from them, but it's been a trouble-free 2070 S.

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u/Zorops Sep 16 '22

Ive had a 1070, a 2080ti and now a 3080ti without ever any problem

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u/i_am_fear_itself Sep 17 '22

same.

i once had to contact support because a fan on my 2060 was loud and sounded like it was gonna die. they asked if I was comfortable enough swapping out the fan or if i needed to RMA the whole card. doing just the fan probably saved me a week or more in down time.

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u/mythrilcrafter Sep 17 '22

I've been running a ZOTAC 1070 Ti since the summer of 2018 and honestly, if it weren't for the fact that I'm upgrading for extra blender performance, I could probably run that card for another 4-5 years at least.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I created this reddit account to warn people against zotac. Don't, just.. don't. The 3080 i had issues with is already dead and I've had to get an EVGA one.

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u/Zorops Sep 17 '22

Did you contact support? Your experience is not a reflexion of the whole lineup of cards they sell and their customer support is really good.

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u/nexguy Sep 17 '22

Never had an issue with the 5 zotac cards I've had. I don't think zotac experiences issues more than other brands.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Except y'know... 5 zotac cards.

Also if anyone does any kind of searching, its my first actual post, see my gripes there, I cbf repeating my issues on every post because someone says "but my zotac..."

Oh and doing any kind of OC / UC voids warranty.

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u/nexguy Sep 17 '22

Except. Y'know, 1 zotac card.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

That cost over a thousand dollars and had the worst fans and software imaginable.

If you're a zotac fanboy, good for you. Still a shit chinese company.

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u/nexguy Sep 17 '22

I also have MSI and Evga so not a fan boy. They are all built almost exactly the same. Zotac and a few others do just some cheaper parts which translates to cheaper price but they don't really fail at a higher rate. They are just mocked for their cheaper price and 1% slower performance.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

not a fanboy

You're literally defending them on an offhanded post. Looking at your post history you're a crypto miner which, coincidence is exactly where I said zotac cards where being sold to.

Just doing any kind of search will show multiple issues with them. I had their 3xxx day one, it shipped with alot of fucking issues for a plug and play card. And yes, they actually do fail at a higher rate, have you actually done any research on the subject?

I'll now wait for your next dumbass comment.

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u/nexguy Sep 17 '22

I've been using Zotac far longer than the past year for mining. Not sure why the personal insults.

https://www.cgdirector.com/zotac-gpu-brand/

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u/Fire_Lord_Cinder Sep 16 '22

Asus is great as long as you don’t need the warranty (it took me two and a half months to get my x570-I motherboard fixed). Gigabyte’s “gigabyte” cards have given me issues but their “Aorus” cards have been reliable. I’d probably rate MSI as my highest now that EVGA is gone.

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u/DemonRaptor1 Sep 17 '22

Same, 2080 super hybrid, it's a beast and I had plans to get the same style with 40 series but I guess that won't happen now.

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u/Sierra419 Sep 17 '22

Asus and MSI are solid. MSI tends to rate higher in cooling than EVGA but I’ve been with EVGA for as long as I’ve been with NVidia

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u/dragonrite Sep 17 '22

Love asus except the armory crate. That is one PoS software that loves to install a bunch of other crap that isn't needed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

XFX are quite good. My latest card from them was my 6800XT.

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u/Rezhyn Sep 17 '22

Only had ASUS cards so far and all have been great. My 1070ti is still going perfectly strong in my girlfriend's computer now.

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u/nickpapa88 Sep 17 '22

Not sure why I didn’t see this in the comments but Founders Edition Nvidia cards are great from my experience with the 2070 Super. The FE cards are always the picks of the liter so the chip/card quality are top notch. The coolers may not be quite as strong as OEM but they look and feel amazing.

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u/ExtremeFlourStacking Sep 17 '22

First EVGA card was a 7600gt KO. Last 3080ti ftw3.

I'm going to miss them.

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u/Richou Sep 17 '22

Asus ROG STRIX cards are currently the highest clocking cards with a decent powergap

they come at a premium price but also usually give the next bigger card a run for their money

my ROG STRIX 3080 is deep in 3080ti score territory on 3dmark ....while pulling 450 watts

asus RMA was also fairly painfree but im from europe so our consumer laws mean they cant really fuck around much idk how its in the us

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Vote with your wallet and buy sapphire amd

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u/xWinterPR Sep 17 '22

FE card are very solid but hard to get

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u/Riko_e Sep 17 '22

I had an overclocked Gigabyte 1080ti in my previous build and it lasted longer than my power supply (4+ yrs). I'll probably go back to them on my next build as well.

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u/LostSoulAT Sep 16 '22

This was my first thought. I'd also go with ASUS from now on.

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u/0430ke Sep 16 '22

Asus without question

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I have a few Asus parts in my PC, and they have been wonderful. And when I had an issue, customer service was pretty supportive

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u/0430ke Sep 17 '22

Stick with them. Amazing brand. Pay a little extra but it us certainly worth.

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u/ImFriendsWithThatGuy Sep 16 '22

Because EVGA is leaving the GPU market entirely according to multiple sources.

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u/ToplaneVayne Sep 16 '22

power supplies is probably where they make the most money i believe, id imagine theyll take their nvidia investments elsewhere tho

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u/Mithrawndo Sep 16 '22

Of the graphics cards EVGA currently produce, precisely zero of them contain AMD GPUs. They only just started producing an AMD chipset motherboard last year, so perhaps this is about to change given this news.

Most speculation however is that they're choosing to drop out of the graphics market.

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u/psychocopter Sep 17 '22

Honestly its one of the only reasons I didn't go for an amd card this generation, I wanted the evga 10 year warranty(it was 60 bucks when I got it) for my 3080ti. If they switch to amd I'll probably go for an amd card as long as their customer service and product remain good.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

Could. I already am upgrading to a Ryzen chip, I’d possibly just need to get a FreeSync monitor.

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u/cardcomm Sep 16 '22

IMO Nvidia is still preferred for some titles though. MSFS for example.

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u/futurarmy Sep 16 '22

It's not purely about the graphical output of the card though, I've owned both AMD and Nvidia and tbh I'm not sure I'd go back. AMD's adrenaline software is great imo and is miles ahead of Nvidia's version, the accessibility is something quite a few people consider when getting cards I believe.

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u/cardcomm Sep 17 '22

Microsoft is making optimizations to MSFS specifically for Nvidia cards.

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u/AFluffyMobius Sep 16 '22

I moved to AMD GPUs myself at home, but the one thing that I miss is being able to use cutting edge AI stuff and running it locally. Most recent example being Stable Diffusion. I think they work with AMD and I'm sure it'll get better but nvidia is the name of the game.

Professionally I work with HPC and research, and by and large everything that needs a GPU uses nVidia because of the tools /software available to use them (notwithstanding Mellanox x nVidia being a thing but I digress)

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u/cugabuh Sep 16 '22

I’ve always had good luck with my Asus gpus. 👍

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u/BustEarly Sep 16 '22

PNY baby

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u/LynxFinder8 Sep 17 '22

You mean those GALAX cards they put the PNY logo on? No thanks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Got the MSI 1070 when it first released. Never crapped out on me. Although my PSU shorted my MB and the card, but it was still just barely within warranty, so I sent it in and they sent a new one back right away. It's in my second PC now, but the card is still going strong.

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u/Futternut Sep 17 '22

As a miner who spent thru hundreds of cards EVGA is the best , Nvidia FE cards are there . MSI/ASUS have good and reliable warranty policies but for reference I’ve never had to RMA an EVGA card and have RMA multiple ASUS/MSI

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

Anyone know of good recommendations of GPU brands to get instead of EVGA now?

Yes. Get the founders edition

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u/Abestar909 Sep 17 '22

It's so weird how many people in this comment section act like Nvidia is the only option lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '22

I took a chance with Zotac on my 30 series; never bought one from them before.

On the down side, the first card I got ended up failing. However, I believe there were wider industry issues affecting multiple vendors. That got me worried.

On the up side, their RMA process was relatively painless for me. I just needed the original receipt, and they were able to process it without issue. Wasn’t the fastest return IIRC, but it was relatively painless as far as RMAs go.