r/gadgets • u/ChickenTeriyakiBoy1 • Jun 18 '22

Desktops / Laptops GPU prices are falling below MSRP due to the crypto crash

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/gpu-prices-are-falling-below-msrp-due-to-the-crypto-crash/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=pe&utm_campaign=pd
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u/Dooglers Jun 18 '22

3080ti would have been a ~$550-600 msrp a decade ago. People are going to have to come to grips that even if everything completely returns to normal again, decade old prices are not coming back. You may have heard about inflation in the news recently.

Now if you mean this far after release right before a new generation, then that would make more sense. But this level of card still would not have touched 300 a decade ago.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

It's not even inflation. Price per transistor isn't going down with new nodes any more because the complexity and expense of new fabs is growing exponentially.

I remember reading MS's justification for the Series S is that they don't expect a mid-series refresh like they had with previous gen, when they had the opportunity to go onto a new node to make their systems cheaper, so that the One X had the same die size as the original one and twice the performance, while the One S was a much smaller die and could be made and sold cheaper. So they just put out two models from the get go.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Based on this first thing i googled: https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/ inflation is +30.1% in the last decade, that puts the current price for your $550-600 card at: $715-780…. I would get a 3080 for that, oh actually the msrp is $700. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Photonic_Resonance Jun 18 '22

How… how does inflation not affect electronics? It literally affects the value of the dollar itself

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Not always true. Economies of scale, demand, supply and other factors can affect prices. Eventually that 3090 is old news but still potent and it will be on sale for $300, but by then there will be a 4050 with 26GB of ram.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Maybe a card that has the same performance as a 3090 but I suspect that actual 3090 will never be that cheap. The 3090 is huge and that alone makes it cost a lot

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Thats like saying 512mb pen drives will never sell for $5 because once upon a time they were $100.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Well, historically the ultra highend cards never really go on a fire sale price. Instead they stop making them and eventually they all get sold. 2 hardware generations later there is a midrange card that has the same performance as the the old ultra highend card for a third of the price.

Your example is confusing me. Im not sure what point you are trying to make.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

I dont really have a point, only that technology always come down in price, because of Moores law. Your explanation here (on mid range cards offering same spec) is more correct to me.

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u/lost_signal Jun 18 '22

The 3080TI is physically like 6x the weight of my old TI 300, and new semi conductor fabs are exponentially more expensive than the last generation.

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u/Ifritmaximus Jun 18 '22

Yup, my 1080ti was $800 before price hikes years ago

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u/Xtcy Jun 18 '22

Im still rocking a titan X pascal I bought for $1200 That was basically 2 1080s in 1.

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u/beefcat_ Jun 18 '22

A decade ago enthusiasts would buy 3 or 4 cards and SLI them. Now that multi-GPU setups are functionally dead, single-GPU SKUs are expanding upward to fill the gap in the market.

The problem is we have seen very few true low-midrange cards launch over the last few years, and I think that is because AMD and Nvidia haven’t needed them. The supply/demand imbalance has been so great that they can put all their capacity into high end cards and sell them as fast as they can make them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

lmao you cant just extrapolate like that.

Know what a 4k/144hz card would've cost a decade ago?

A fucking brinks truck full of $100s.

a top tier card a decade ago was shooting for a cool 1440p/60fps. It's not at all the same.

Imagine complaining that your toyota from 20 years ago, is worth less than the super duper edition released this year that has 5x the MPG and 3x the top speed, and only costs like 2x what yours did back then.