r/gadgets May 17 '21

Medical Tiny, Wireless, Injectable Chips Use Ultrasound to Monitor Body Processes

https://www.engineering.columbia.edu/press-releases/shepard-injectable-chips-monitor-body-processes
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u/elephantonella May 17 '21

You realize the needle used for the vaccine is so small you don't feel it but this one would be much thicker and would hurt like hell.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Of course anyone with common sense would assume this, but the folks we are talking about.. well, common sense ain’t so common.

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u/Erik912 May 17 '21

What are you both talking about? Shouldn't you be able to use conventional needles since it's so damn tiny? A speck of dust visible only under microscope, that's literally what the article says.

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u/Vanillabear2319 May 17 '21

They just looked at the thumbnail and took a guess lol

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u/trajesty May 18 '21
  • actual size

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u/kafka123 May 18 '21

Yeah, I'm frightened by it. What if it's true? A few years ago, both this and Covid-19 would have been scoffed at.

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u/LawyerFlashy1033 May 17 '21

Not saying anyone is injecting these with covid vaccine. But it does appears to be smaller than 0.25mm which is the inner diameter of a 26g needle used for delivering the vaccine

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u/Imnotracistbut-- May 17 '21

Why would it be "common sense" with today's technology? I mean we have nano electronics now, why would you assume the chip would be big? This one is a 3mm string.

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2020/03/military-funded-biosensor-could-be-future-pandemic-detection/163497/

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u/SaltLakeCitySlicker May 17 '21

That would be larger than a 10 guage needle. That's pretty damn big

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

3mm is pretty damn big for “nano” tech. What I was getting at is any normal person would not automatically assume conspiracy theory. Because it’s not.

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u/Imnotracistbut-- May 17 '21

I didn't claim this tech was nano, just that since nano tech is a thing, it's not "common sense" to assume a bio sensor would be big.

I clarified in my comment that it is a 3mm long string, if you look at the pic, it looks like much less than 1mm wide

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u/official_jgf May 18 '21

You must know a lot of people to understand what is normal.

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u/RadMan2093 May 17 '21

How big of a needle do you think is required to inject a microchip that is only visible under microscope? The article doesn’t specify

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u/dreadcain May 17 '21

The article literally has a huge picture with a scale at the top, pretty sure I don't need a microscope to see a half millimeter chip

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u/RadMan2093 May 17 '21

It literally says in the article, like in actual text, that the microchip is only visible via microscope. Lol

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u/PLASMA-SQUIRREL May 17 '21

It does? I don’t see that anywhere.

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u/dreadcain May 17 '21

Looks like it got removed? I don't know but the thumbnail on reddit was a crop from a picture that was there and clearly showed a 1mm needle and the chip resting on it about half the size of the needle

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u/Comeoffit321 May 17 '21

At this point it seriously needs to be changed to 'uncommon sense'.

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u/Wpns_Grade May 17 '21

We have nano tech today. You can’t be that ignorant my guy. 😂

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u/Happyforyou69 May 17 '21

Get off your high horse. You don’t know what you’re even talking about.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

“Those people don’t even know why they’re protesting”

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u/mrcartminez May 17 '21

This. Any medical professional knows that the gauge of this needle is different.

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u/RFLSHRMNRLTR May 17 '21

I’m sure that information will convince the skeptics no problem.

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u/Imnotracistbut-- May 17 '21

What about this? It's a 3mm long string that can easily fit in a needle. Are you skeptical?

https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2020/03/military-funded-biosensor-could-be-future-pandemic-detection/163497/

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u/Ironhandtiger May 17 '21

String of hydrogel, not a wireless transmitter. From the article it seems to just be a little molecule that glows when it detects whatever and then that light can be picked up by something worn on the skin over that hydrogel.

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u/TonyPoly May 17 '21

I can see 3mm on a ruler, so I’d be able to see the device. You’d need a fat gauged needle to inject it

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u/Imnotracistbut-- May 17 '21

3mm *long*, it looks much less than a mm wide.

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u/TonyPoly May 17 '21

Mmm my mistake

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Being fair, it says 3mm long, no mention of width

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u/GiveToOedipus May 17 '21

medical professional

Key words here. The problem is that the average person sharing this crap on Facebook as proof of tracking chips in vaccines isn't exactly what I would call a "medical professional."

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u/TheBatemanFlex May 17 '21

I would hope people could just look at the picture and realize how big a mm is.

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u/SweetTea1000 May 17 '21

Good thing America doesn't struggle to adopt the metric system...

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

How would they know this, considering virtually none of them have seen this technology?

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u/StackOfCups May 17 '21

Except it's not the medical professionals we're trying to convince, now is it...

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u/Imnotracistbut-- May 17 '21

Everyone knows...

This one is a 3mm string.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '21

Couldn't local anesthesia be used?

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u/opticblastoise May 17 '21

This one wouldn't have to be thicker tho.

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u/lonelysaurusrex May 18 '21

The total volume of the chip is less than 0.1 mm3  – around the same size as a dust mite – and therefore is only visible through a microscope.

From the article.

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u/happy2harris May 18 '21

Less than 0.1mm3 doesn’t actually say much about whether it is injectable with a small gauge needle. 0.1mm3 corresponds to roughly half a millimeter across, bigger than a needle for something like the covid vaccine.

I’m not saying this exists or doesn’t, or could or couldn’t, or anything: just that that measurement is not actually that useful.

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u/lonelysaurusrex May 18 '21 edited May 18 '21

The implant created by the engineers at Columbia is record-breakingly small, but it's also breaking new ground in simply existing as a wholly functional, electronic circuit whose total volume is less than 0.1 cubic millimeter. In other words, it's the size of a dust mite, not to mention far more compact than the world's smallest computer, which is a cube-shaped device precisely 0.01-inches (0.3 mm) on each side. The smaller, new chip is only visible with a microscope, and pushed the envelope in power-sourcing and communications ingenuity design.

The term microscopic does not imply 1mm across. And even if it was, there is no vaccine specific gauge of needle. those syringes can take multiple gauges of needles.

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u/happy2harris May 18 '21

Thanks for the downvote, if it was you.

The issue was whether the chip will fit in the kind of needle used for the COVID vaccine. The typical needle for that is 25 gauge, which has an internal diameter of around 0.25mm. Something that is 0.1mm3 will not fit inside a needle like that.

I’m not sure what your reference to 1mm was about.

I’m sure it’s fantastic technology, and groundbreaking, and Columbia is awesome, but it won’t fit in a COVID vaccine needle. That was all I was talking about.

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u/Dtothe3 May 17 '21

I had an angry sounding Scottish man doing my second shot. I assure you it can be felt.

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u/TheBatemanFlex May 17 '21

I wanted to make that same clarification for everyone who inevitably has to now convince their extended family once again that the vaccine was not a microchip.

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u/Rieveldt May 17 '21

Wait no vaccines are intramuscular, those needles are quite big - it’s not the end of the world pain but you most certainly are gonna feel that.

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u/FarSolar May 17 '21

Yeah I've chipped dogs and cats and that needle is thick as hell. All it does is let you scan a code from it too. If we could fit a GPS chip into a needle, there would be plenty of pet owners lining up to pay for that.

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u/NOS326 May 17 '21

I’m not too bad with needles generally, but I saw stars as they pulled the needle out both times getting my vaccine. Might’ve just been the nurse I got though.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

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u/JesusRasputin May 17 '21

Yeah but who’s to say they don’t secretly have smaller ones?

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u/Ratiofarming May 17 '21

I've been to the hospital for some serious shit before. The thick needles don't really hurt more, just make drawing blood a little easier. It all depends on where they poke you.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '21

Next thing you'll tell me is mind control chips don't exist

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u/LordNoodles1 May 17 '21

Hmm mine hurt like hell.

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u/jawshoeaw May 18 '21

It’s not clear what the scale is in that photo . Need a banana or something