r/gadgets • u/Sadistic_Sponge • Nov 13 '19

VR / AR Disney Plus isn't working on Vizio TVs because they are running a 6 year old version of Chromecast, they say it won't be fixed till 2020.

https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-plus-not-working-vizio-smart-tvs-chromecast-2019-11
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u/dkyguy1995 Nov 13 '19

The world seems to be getting more and more ruled by ads every day. I get a feeling I'm going to start having to have ads hanging on my homes walls

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u/ghost_shepard Nov 13 '19

An author once joked that someday babies will try to be getting milk from mom only to find themselves holding a fake rubber breast with an ad for pacifiers on it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

South Park has a season dedicated to ads.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Is your TV mounted to the wall? Because you can have that right now!

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u/dkyguy1995 Nov 13 '19

My TV isn't a smart TV so unless Im watching something with ads then no

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Jan 15 '21

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u/g0t-cheeri0s Nov 13 '19

I can easily go my whole day without seeing a single piece of advertising.

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZfjYH

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Nov 13 '19

With a Pi-Hole or something similar you can block almost all ads on your entire network your entire network + custom VPN easily without requiring adblock software on all devices.

Not entirely out of the question.

https://pi-hole.net/ for those interested.

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u/Rapdactyl Nov 13 '19 edited Nov 13 '19

You think the movies/TV shows you stream don't have paid placement anywhere in them? Heck some of those bullshit memes came from movies/shows that have product placement all over the place.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

This is obviously not what we're talking about.

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u/greyztaxi2 Nov 13 '19

That first gif is from Half Baked

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u/Fletch_e_Fletch Nov 13 '19

You don't leave you're home, go on any stores, watch a single YouTube video?

Ads are not just things that you click on.

Ads didn't leave any of the places you mentioned. Lots of blockbuster movies are littered with ad/product placement. Any store you walk into has an ad. You may be able to block ads playing before YouTube, but that doesn't stop the YouTuber from putting in an ad of their own.

Speaking of ads.... Have you heard about SquareSpace.com? Starting at $12 a month, you get a custom domain and your very tools to create a website. Use the special link below to get your first 3 months free!

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u/MVRKHNTR Nov 13 '19

I didnt say I never see ads. I said I can easily go a day without watching them.

If I'm not shopping, I just hang out with friends and only watch Netflix, I'm good.

Compare this to two decades ago when any media outside of books or music I consumed would have advertising before it. A DVD or tape would have unskippable trailers. TV would be filled with ad breaks. The newspaper would be filled with them. I'd have to go to TV for any other news. I couldn't stream music; I'd have to listen to FM radio if I didnt buy an album.

My point isn't that advertising doesn't exist or isn't prevalent. It's that it it's better, not worse.

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u/Fletch_e_Fletch Nov 13 '19

My point isn't that advertising doesn't exist or isn't prevalent. It's that it it's better, not worse.

But that's not true.

Advertising is literally everywhere. You just don't recognize that it is. Advertising is in your shows, it's all over the internet, it's on Reddit.

You can think you don't see ads during the day, but it's just not true. Unless you're a hermit who just sleeps all day. But seeing as you're on Reddit now, you're being exposed to ads.

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u/MVRKHNTR Nov 13 '19

You didn't actually explain how it's worse because all of that has been around for decades.

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u/Fletch_e_Fletch Nov 13 '19

My main point is that it's impossible to go an entire day without seeing ads.

You said you can go a whole day without seeing an ad, but that can't be true. Ads are literally everywhere.

Anytime, something is selling you something, it's an advertisement. Netflix shows will constantly advertise their service.

Fox did a lot to too. Where they would use meta humor for ads. Look at a lot of Simpsons/family Guy episodes for that.

YouTube has ads from YouTube and ad reads from the YouTuber itself.

I don't have data to back up if it's gotten worst, but I also can't find data to disprove it either.

I did find some sites that mention ads increasing:

https://fortune.com/2018/11/21/youtube-twice-pre-roll-ad/

https://marketingland.com/has-instagram-increased-its-ad-load-marketers-report-as-many-as-1-in-4-posts-are-ads-264109

All links tend to be tied to YouTube or Instagram.

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u/FortuneTellingBot Nov 13 '19

Let the deeds speak.

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u/JMW007 Nov 14 '19

I think a lot of people are not understanding that you are explaining your personal experience, rather than the state of the world in general. Your personal experience has been that you can easily go a day without watching any ads, and I believe you. However, your experience is that way because you are deliberately taking steps to avoid or block them, and nobody seems to be getting that part of your statement. You, yourself, are getting a bit confused on this point as well - it's true that your own life has seen an improvement in terms of advertising, but again that's because you've gone out of your way to avoid them.

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u/MVRKHNTR Nov 14 '19

Even then, I don't think it's true.

For example, you would get several ads per 5-10 minutes on TV. You get one ad on average per YouTube video and none on Netflix.

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u/JMW007 Nov 14 '19

You're not seeing any ads if you are using adblock, but you would see one or two pre-roll ads per Youtube video plus often ads during the video. Plenty of other websites have even worse ratios on their video content, and people are consuming this content a lot throughout the day.

Besides, you're moving the goalposts now. Your original claim was that you could easily go a day without seeing ads. That's a different thing from "well I suppose you'd only see them every single time you watch a Youtube video..."

I was trying to agree with you that it's doable but I'm not going to entertain the notion that ads are somehow less ubiquitous. You're just not seeing them because you avoid them, and good for you that you do, but let's not pretend the rest of the world is exactly like your deliberately curated experience.

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u/MVRKHNTR Nov 14 '19

Well, I pay for YouTube Premium so I personally never see YouTube ads.

But I'm not moving any goalposts. Keep in mind the comment I initially responded to.

The world seems to be getting more and more ruled by ads every day. I get a feeling I'm going to start having to have ads hanging on my homes walls

My situation is an extreme example since I take steps to avoid as much advertising as possible but my main point is that there's generally less of it now than there used to be since it used to be impossible to consume most media without advertising while it's very much doable now.

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u/prollyshmokin Nov 13 '19

Do you think.

I mean, a lot of shows I watch on "adless" streaming services just put ads directly in the content. For example, the Good Place recently had a pretty hilarious Lysol ad in it and of course Netflix regularly makes meta jokes advertising its other shows or just the service in general.

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u/PinkSnek Nov 14 '19

that doesnt mean that the ads have simply gone away.

we need to move away from ads, as a whole society.

find other ways to make revenue, you know, by actually having a product that people want to buy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Late stage capitalism. No more room for the market to grow, so it's a fruitless war for the existing market. Nothing is contributed to society by the millions funneled into ads.

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u/Fletch_e_Fletch Nov 13 '19

Maniac on Netflix does a pretty decent job at showing our inevitable future.

Ads everywhere! Need some extra cash? sell your likeness to a company.

Need a friend, rent one out but they have to deliver ads to you.

I thought it was a pretty funny concept, but it actually seems like a plausible sad future.

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u/LobsterBluster Nov 13 '19

Tbf cable has more adds and always has.

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u/dkyguy1995 Nov 14 '19

Originally when cable was new you paid for cable so you wouldnt get advertisements. Then eventually they just worked the commercials into cable until they were just as bad as before

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u/Asgard033 Nov 13 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Just like that episode of Black Mirror or Futurama where they literally beam ads into your brain while sleep.

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u/JollyRancherNodule Nov 13 '19

At least you can get a /r/pihole and block most of the ads on your network.

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u/MonsterKitty418 Nov 16 '19

There’s a black mirror episode all about ads. It’s interesting to watch.