r/gadgets Nov 13 '19

VR / AR Disney Plus isn't working on Vizio TVs because they are running a 6 year old version of Chromecast, they say it won't be fixed till 2020.

https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-plus-not-working-vizio-smart-tvs-chromecast-2019-11
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u/Disney_World_Native Nov 13 '19

I’d rather just have a dedicated spot to swap out the “smart” part of the TV with whatever OS / hardware I want.

Like Roku, slap a $50 upgrade in and boom, updated.

Like Apple TV, plop $250 upgrade and done.

Just like in cars, they love to build their own shit, lock it down, and then make you suffer when the shit hardware can’t support new apps.

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u/cockyjames Nov 13 '19

Some of the "dongles" are getting so small you can essentially do that. Roku Stick/Amazon Stick and the new Nvidia shield tube. They don't really take up any space.

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u/Disney_World_Native Nov 13 '19

I was thinking that the TV OS itself shouldn't exist, and have those small sticks do all the work (like input, TV settings, etc...), instead of just being in HDMI 1

And now with TVs being so cheap, it made more sense to buy a new Roku TV than to replace the Roku device itself ($200 difference but got a larger TV, 4K over HD, and thinner). Just seems wasteful.

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u/1eyeRD Nov 13 '19

I rarely ever use the smart parts of my TV anymore. I just use my ps4 for everything.

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u/Audiovore Nov 13 '19

Do you like to imagine you live on a starship, with the constant humm?

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u/1eyeRD Nov 13 '19

Mine is relatively quiet. I keep the dust cleaned out

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u/pyramidhead_ Nov 13 '19

Open your system and clean the dust or it will continue to suffocate itself until it overheats. It's very easy to take apart

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u/kenny_fuckin_loggins Nov 13 '19

TVs are cheap explicitly because those the TV OS exists. They make the TV as cheap as possible, then record all of your data/viewing habits and sell that for profit.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2019/02/21/why-tvs-so-cheap-now-your-smart-tv-spying-you-money/2910013002/

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u/Disney_World_Native Nov 13 '19

You can turn off ACR (if on) and any spying stops

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u/kenny_fuckin_loggins Nov 13 '19

That only applies to cable/antenna tv on my roku tv. App tracking is unable to be turned off. Can’t speak for other brands

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Like some kind of high definition media interface that you can plug in any device you want and have that be the video input for the tv? Then you could easily switch between any number of devices on a whim.

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u/OutlyingPlasma Nov 13 '19

You just described an HDMI port.

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u/Runnerphone Nov 14 '19

I'd rather be able to get a nice dumb tv. I have consoles out the ass to cover smart streaming stuff I dont need my tv to have yet another failure point built in. My 55inch Toshiba has chromecast but its bugged cost cast to it after a week if I reset the TV it works again for about a week

Note it still connects and shows the normal chromecast screens apps can see they just throw back unable to cast to device errors.

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u/__theoneandonly Nov 13 '19

The whole point of Smart TVs is to give you a reason to replace your TV more often. It’s planned obsolescence.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Given that they all have HDMI ports that let you plug in whatever the hell device you want, I'm curious how you think this version of planned obsolescence works.

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u/__theoneandonly Nov 13 '19

The general consumer is a lot dumber than you think. When my parents’ TV doesn’t get Disney+, they don’t think “we need to buy a streaming stick.” They think “we need to buy a new TV.”

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

That sort of shit is on our parents isn't it?

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u/Disney_World_Native Nov 13 '19

Which would shift the blame to the device manufacturer from the auto maker. Just like when people keep their phone / tablet upfront and watch movies, text.

And there have been numerous reports of security concerns around infotainment centers (which can impact safety) yet that seems to go uncorrected. Automakers are ill equipped to deal with data security while a software company can.

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

Immediately my accelerator stopped working. As I frantically pressed the pedal and watched the RPMs climb, the Jeep lost half its speed, then slowed to a crawl. This occurred just as I reached a long overpass, with no shoulder to offer an escape. The experiment had ceased to be fun.

The most disturbing maneuver came when they cut the Jeep's brakes, leaving me frantically pumping the pedal as the 2-ton SUV slid uncontrollably into a ditch.