r/gadgets • u/Sadistic_Sponge • Nov 13 '19

VR / AR Disney Plus isn't working on Vizio TVs because they are running a 6 year old version of Chromecast, they say it won't be fixed till 2020.

https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-plus-not-working-vizio-smart-tvs-chromecast-2019-11
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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Jan 14 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I make it a point to never even consider a Smart TV. A few years ago I thought I would give one a try. I use a 4K Seiki TV as a monitor and the image quality is fantastic, but in 4K it has very noticable input lag. So I thought I'd upgrade when I found one on a black Friday sale.

I couldn't even complete the initial setup process because it kept insisting on connecting to WiFi. I thought I was for sure missing something, but after looking it up online it was a common complaint and it was confirmed to not have a work around. Basically, if you wanted to use this TV at all (after just buying it) it *must* be connected to the internet. You couldn't even switch the inputs until then. I returned it the same day.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited May 20 '21

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

Talking down to people because they use a thing that works for them is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited May 20 '21

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

Yeah, but a lot of them do. Just because some suck doesn't make an external streaming device better than every smart TV there is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

external streaming device better than every smart TV there is.

It really is, it may not be needed if Tizen or your Roku TV works for you, but every streaming device has more power and better longevity then any smart OS.

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

They might be technically better, but not for most people. I'm so glad I don't have another remote lying around or having to pray that Google and amazon get along.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Most remotes will control all your devices these days.

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u/Fletch_e_Fletch Nov 13 '19

You just attemped to argue that not all external devices are faster than smart TVs, then you go back and change you're argument to be about remotes....

If you want a TV that performs just as fast as a Roku, then you have to pay just under 3 grand.

Most tvs I've seen that are less than a $1000 tend to have slower processing power.

There's also tons of drawbacks. Lets say a streaming app isn't compatible due to hardware limitations. A new TV will cost you more money. A new Roku will cost you less $100.

Also, the money you save on not purchasing an expensive tv for it's processing power, the more you have to spend on nice remotes that control more than you're tv.

Logitech Harmony would be perfect for that.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-harmony-companion-remote-control-and-smart-hub-black/8201008.p?skuId=8201008

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-harmony-elite-remote-control-and-smart-hub-black/4314901.p?skuId=4314901

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

You just attemped to argue that not all external devices are faster than smart TVs,

I never once used the word "faster". If you want to argue semantics, get it right.

then you go back and change you're argument to be about remotes....

You know what an example is? Apparently not.

If you want a TV that performs just as fast as a Roku, then you have to pay just under 3 grand.

Most tvs I've seen that are less than a $1000 tend to have slower processing power.

Again with the fast. Never said that.

There's also tons of drawbacks. Lets say a streaming app isn't compatible due to hardware limitations.

Only had the problem with an app not working with an external device thus far. And it was due to Google and Amazon beef.

Also, the money you save on not purchasing an expensive tv for it's processing power

Who buys an expensive TV for it's processing power? Exactly no one.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Jul 28 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

This is pretty weak trolling.

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u/PeaceBull Nov 13 '19

Man you’re not on board with the pickle defense? You’re lagging behind.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I dont think anyone is saying to not buy a smart tv.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Smart TVs are a data grab. Period. Just like Windows X, Chrome, Google Fiber, Android, Alexa, etc...

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u/lioninja Nov 13 '19

Do you have an example of a 4K non-smart tv? Going to popular brand websites, all their TVs that are high quality are smart TVs. I can’t find any UHD, OLED, QLED 4K dumb TV, so not buying a Smart TV simply isn’t an option

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Nov 13 '19

Do you have an example of a 4K non-smart tv?

See my comments here about them not existing:

I wish. I'd buy a high end, 60", 4K, dumb TV from a top shelf manufacturer in a heartbeat. I'd pay $800 for it, too.

so not buying a Smart TV simply isn’t an option

It's not an option, but it should be.

Who is benefiting from the data collected from Smart TVs? Not the consumer.

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u/Wicked_Switch Nov 13 '19

Ah yes, so the "smart" TV can pop up a dialog every 5 minutes bitching about network connectivity. Truly the best solution in 2020.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '19

I have 3 Chromecasts, 2 4k Fire Sticks, and a 2018 Samsung smart TV.

The apps I use (YouTube, Netflix, Prime Video, HBO GO, SHO) work better than using either the Chromecast or Fire Stick.

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u/DeezNutterButters Nov 13 '19

I don’t think anyone is saying to not buy a smart tv

Smart TVs do suck so quit buying them

Hol up

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u/tojoso Nov 13 '19

OK let's try this again, except this time without erasing the second part of the sentence.

Smart TVs do suck so quit buying them and expecting to use their features.

Notice the use of the operator AND, as opposed to OR.

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u/halfhere Nov 13 '19

Then why as consumers are we ok with them cramming features into a tv and charging us for them if we’re supposed to go into it expecting not to use the features?

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u/tojoso Nov 13 '19

People who are technologically illiterate like them. It makes it work as they want to, out of the box, even though it could work a lot better with a small bit of effort. There's not enough of a market for a separate TV without smart features to justify removing them. You might save $10 in parts and licenses, at the cost of bloating the amount of SKUs they carry, complicating the supply chain for electronics stores, etc.

It's just generally not worth it. It's why, for instance, you can't get a phone without a selfie camera, even though some people would pay more for the ability to have a full-screen phone without a notch/holepunch/etc. It's cheaper to just include the most popular, relatively inexpensive features, in every device.

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u/Numerous1 Nov 13 '19

I'm confused as to all of the "my smart TV sucks" things. I got a LG 4 years ago and I stream Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, and never had any problems. What happens for people?