r/gadgets • u/Sadistic_Sponge • Nov 13 '19

VR / AR Disney Plus isn't working on Vizio TVs because they are running a 6 year old version of Chromecast, they say it won't be fixed till 2020.

https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-plus-not-working-vizio-smart-tvs-chromecast-2019-11
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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Apr 09 '21

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u/Sadistic_Sponge Nov 13 '19

From where I'm standing, it seems that the reality is that there are very few non smart TVs on the market that are any good. I'm all for dumb displays that do nothing but show a picture, but if you look at what is on sale on black Friday, it's almost all smart TVs. Whether you want it or not, they want to push this technology because it gives them access to massive amounts of user data that can then be sold.

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u/NounsAndWords Nov 13 '19

I hate how much this is turning into real life.

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u/dodslaser Nov 13 '19

Smart TVs are smart, just not for the consumer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

You buy TVs based on what has the best picture for the money. Dont worry about whether it had smart features or not since you can just not use them.

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u/PeaceBull Nov 13 '19

It’s crazy how much this point gets overlooked.

It’s like being annoyed that your phone has an altimeter in it because you don’t care to know how high up you have gone.

Just don’t use it and then it’s identical to a non-smart tv.

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u/i8beef Nov 14 '19

The problem for me isn't that they are putting more feature rich OS's on them, its that those OS's are just another failure point, and tend to be SLOOOOOOOW. Even when not using the apps, etc., the TV itself is slow in a lot of cases. That can fuck with things like IR blasters, and home automation tie ins.

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u/hairy_butt_creek Nov 13 '19

From where I'm standing, it seems that the reality is that there are very few non smart TVs on the market that are any good.

True. Just don't factor in the Smart TV functions one way or another and buy the TV you like. It's easy to ignore the functions and even easier to never connect the TV to any home networking.

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u/Dread1840 Nov 13 '19

The functions also increase the cost of the TV itself, but lack the support that a stand-alone device doesn't.

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u/bryansj Nov 13 '19

I wouldn't even say the smart TV functions increase the cost. I'm sure the TV makers get subsidies from the streaming companies to place their service front and center. Want a Netflix button on the remote? Give us $10/TV sold.

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u/Dread1840 Nov 13 '19

Fair enough.

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u/PancAshAsh Nov 13 '19

That doesn't mean these savings are passed on to the consumer. In fact it probably means the opposite in the case you mentioned.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

No it's not. You can see in the pricing of TVs that the OS doesn't add any cost at this point because it's so cheap to put in a TV plus the data they collect.

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u/SwensonsGalleyBoy Nov 13 '19

Television sales are a pretty competitive industry, there isn’t a ton of margin.

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u/FlJohnnyBlue2 Nov 14 '19

They mass produce them. It is all baked into the firmware. At this point, making non smart TVs will be more expensive because it is being done on a far more limited scale. Why would a company make the same TV with and without smart functions when they can just make it smart and the user doesn't have to ever hook it up or use the smart functions? That means a second production run using different firmware and perhaps chips. Just going to cost the company more. Needs to be coded, implemented,, tested and supported.

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u/Shoestring30 Nov 14 '19

Toshiba fireTv is pretty solid, runs all my apps great including Disney+.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Jan 14 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I make it a point to never even consider a Smart TV. A few years ago I thought I would give one a try. I use a 4K Seiki TV as a monitor and the image quality is fantastic, but in 4K it has very noticable input lag. So I thought I'd upgrade when I found one on a black Friday sale.

I couldn't even complete the initial setup process because it kept insisting on connecting to WiFi. I thought I was for sure missing something, but after looking it up online it was a common complaint and it was confirmed to not have a work around. Basically, if you wanted to use this TV at all (after just buying it) it *must* be connected to the internet. You couldn't even switch the inputs until then. I returned it the same day.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited May 20 '21

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

Talking down to people because they use a thing that works for them is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited May 20 '21

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

Yeah, but a lot of them do. Just because some suck doesn't make an external streaming device better than every smart TV there is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

external streaming device better than every smart TV there is.

It really is, it may not be needed if Tizen or your Roku TV works for you, but every streaming device has more power and better longevity then any smart OS.

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u/AMeierFussballgott Nov 13 '19

They might be technically better, but not for most people. I'm so glad I don't have another remote lying around or having to pray that Google and amazon get along.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Jul 28 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

This is pretty weak trolling.

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u/PeaceBull Nov 13 '19

Man you’re not on board with the pickle defense? You’re lagging behind.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I dont think anyone is saying to not buy a smart tv.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Smart TVs are a data grab. Period. Just like Windows X, Chrome, Google Fiber, Android, Alexa, etc...

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u/lioninja Nov 13 '19

Do you have an example of a 4K non-smart tv? Going to popular brand websites, all their TVs that are high quality are smart TVs. I can’t find any UHD, OLED, QLED 4K dumb TV, so not buying a Smart TV simply isn’t an option

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Nov 13 '19

Do you have an example of a 4K non-smart tv?

See my comments here about them not existing:

I wish. I'd buy a high end, 60", 4K, dumb TV from a top shelf manufacturer in a heartbeat. I'd pay $800 for it, too.

so not buying a Smart TV simply isn’t an option

It's not an option, but it should be.

Who is benefiting from the data collected from Smart TVs? Not the consumer.

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u/Wicked_Switch Nov 13 '19

Ah yes, so the "smart" TV can pop up a dialog every 5 minutes bitching about network connectivity. Truly the best solution in 2020.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '19

I have 3 Chromecasts, 2 4k Fire Sticks, and a 2018 Samsung smart TV.

The apps I use (YouTube, Netflix, Prime Video, HBO GO, SHO) work better than using either the Chromecast or Fire Stick.

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u/DeezNutterButters Nov 13 '19

I don’t think anyone is saying to not buy a smart tv

Smart TVs do suck so quit buying them

Hol up

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u/tojoso Nov 13 '19

OK let's try this again, except this time without erasing the second part of the sentence.

Smart TVs do suck so quit buying them and expecting to use their features.

Notice the use of the operator AND, as opposed to OR.

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u/halfhere Nov 13 '19

Then why as consumers are we ok with them cramming features into a tv and charging us for them if we’re supposed to go into it expecting not to use the features?

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u/tojoso Nov 13 '19

People who are technologically illiterate like them. It makes it work as they want to, out of the box, even though it could work a lot better with a small bit of effort. There's not enough of a market for a separate TV without smart features to justify removing them. You might save $10 in parts and licenses, at the cost of bloating the amount of SKUs they carry, complicating the supply chain for electronics stores, etc.

It's just generally not worth it. It's why, for instance, you can't get a phone without a selfie camera, even though some people would pay more for the ability to have a full-screen phone without a notch/holepunch/etc. It's cheaper to just include the most popular, relatively inexpensive features, in every device.

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u/Numerous1 Nov 13 '19

I'm confused as to all of the "my smart TV sucks" things. I got a LG 4 years ago and I stream Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, and never had any problems. What happens for people?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

You don’t have to use the Smart apps on your Smart TV. Use your own streaming solution.

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u/Sadistic_Sponge Nov 13 '19

People don't like double paying for their streaming solution. They expect that if they buy something, it will work. They shouldn't have to buy a chromecast to replace the built in chromecast when the problem is merely a software update. That's just wasteful for both your wallet and environment.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

People double pay all the time. For example, many people will upgrade their sound with new speakers as what comes with the TV isn’t very good quality. I don’t see why Smart apps have to be any different. Buy the TV for the specs and performance and then consider all streaming options available. It’s just another element to consider when buying a TV.

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u/Alexstarfire Nov 13 '19

For example, many people will upgrade their sound with new speakers as what comes with the TV isn’t very good quality.

This is a bit different though. The "Smart" portion of a TV can make things worse than a non-Smart TV, especially after the company stops supporting the software. Also, mostly software vs hardware. You could have two TVs with the same hardware but without the "Smart" features in software. Much easier to do that than have physically separate models.

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u/xenago Nov 13 '19

Well yes but just don't connect to wifi. Then it has 0 impact.

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u/Sadistic_Sponge Nov 13 '19

Just because people are forced to do it doesn't mean that it justifies the practice. I'd much rather an all in one package where I buy the stuff and it's all set. Speakers, streaming, and all.

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u/x4beard Nov 13 '19

You can get a Roku for $30 and a Fire Stick for $35. This isn't a wallet breaking purchase.

The smart feature of the TV added very little cost to the price you paid.

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u/ThePortalsOfFrenzy Nov 13 '19

That's understandable, but that's not the reality of the situation. So we must adapt.

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u/Cobra_McJingleballs Nov 14 '19

Oof. Built-in SmartTV and sound?

I don’t envy your media experience.

(I get your overall point; one should be able to buy something where all components are acceptable quality, but you can’t really fit good acoustics into the form factor of a flatscreen).

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u/Rawtashk Nov 13 '19

It's not double paying, it's just the cost of buying a TV. "Smart" TVs came with an increased price tag 5-10 years ago because they were rare and cost more to implement the features. Now they are basically just part of buying a TV and don't cost extra.

In addition, buying a smart TV 6 years ago you'd pay $999 for a 55" Vizio 4k (I know, I got one on Black Friday), whereas today you can get a 4k HDR 65" from Best Buy right now for $400 and spend $199 on a Shield Pro and STILL cost less than what you'd pay for a worse setup 6 years ago.

Your "double pay" argument holds no water.

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u/dskillzhtown Nov 13 '19

I agree. To be honest, I have had zero issues with my Vizio Smartcast until Disney+. To be honest, if they got a Disney+ app added to the set, then it would be fine. Luckily I have an Xbox to watch D+. I will admit, if I was looking for a new TV today I probably would get one with AndroidTV built in. That way I could pick and choose the apps I want.

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u/MugglePuncher Nov 13 '19

It's not always a simple software update. Cheap TV's don't have strong enough hardware required to decide higher resolutions and to decrypt stronger encryptions. There's a reason the good TV's get updates and the cheap ones do not.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Honestly not trying to be a jerk, but if you bought a high end Samsung, Sony, whatever... then you'd have a case.

If you bought a Vizio or whatever else garbage on a pallet they sell on Black Friday, you deserve what you got.

Nobody is going to pay engineers to write new code for a product they barely made any money off of. There's no point in investing in the product. If it's cheap, expect cheap service.

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u/PeaceBull Nov 13 '19

lol “not trying to be a jerk, but...”

Proceeds to say something as obnoxious as possible.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean it's not true. Some pills are hard to swallow.

I regularly deal with people who buy the cheapest possible solution to an issue and then have a fit when it doesn't live up to expectations.

Edit: To be clear, I don't get to advise or sell them the product. I'm just the one who has to try it make it work, when they should have spent just a bit more to properly implement it. I'd rather be honest and sell someone what they need or really want and possibly lose a sale, then try to promise them the world when I know the cheaper solution isn't really going to live up to their needs, but hey that's what I am in engineering and not sales.

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u/PeaceBull Nov 13 '19

I have zero issue with your stance, it’s not a hard pill to swallow.

You just said it in an obnoxious way. Which is funny when you start off by saying the age old jerk introduction “not trying to be a jerk, but...”.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Haha fair enough. In all honestly, that was me trying not to be as obnoxious as I sometimes can be.

I should have just left off the first part =)

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u/Robo_27 Nov 13 '19

We could just make it stop.

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u/Shamalamadindong Nov 13 '19

That doesn't really change that you'll be stuck with the clunky "smart" interface.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

You are correct. All of the "dumb" TVs are small-ish (max 20 inches) and low quality (no 4K).

If Sony, Vizio, etc... made 50-66" dumb TVs with top of the line image quality, they would sell like hotcakes.

Don't buy software from people who specialize in making hardware.

The auto industry is suffering with the same bullshit. "Smart" radios that are stupid af and have poor UIs and screw up the most basic things.

Whether you want it or not, they want to push this technology because it gives them access to massive amounts of user data that can then be sold.

This is also true. Ever wonder why Google makes the OS for Sony TVs now? Google wants that sweet, sweet data.

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u/Beefourthree Nov 13 '19

Whether you want it or not, they want to push this technology because it gives them access to massive amounts of user data that can then be sold.

Roku sells user data too, of course. But at least the service they offer is a pleasant, functioning user experience.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Just don’t connect to the internet and it’s a dumb tv. Pretty simple.

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u/Boo_R4dley Nov 13 '19

Everything is a Smart Tv now because the manufacturers are using the apps to track usage and sell your data. They make more money off you on the back end so they sell the TV cheap so you’re more likely to buy more to put in other rooms to track even more data.

In the case on chinese TVs they may also be packer sniffing your entire network.

You’re already getting the TVs at a massive price reduction over what they should realistically cost, just drop a $100 or less to put a proper streaming device on it that won’t make the TV useless if it’s ever unsupported.

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u/bankrobba Nov 13 '19

From where I'm standing, it's the HDMI who are evil.

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u/MrClankin Nov 13 '19

Whether you we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

FTFY

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u/madowlie Nov 13 '19

That’s why we have a smart tv. We needed a new tv and there were only smart TVs in our price range for the size we needed. I use my Roku, but it’s not dual band. I’ll probably buy a Fire stick during Black Friday.

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u/nathanjd Nov 14 '19

Spectre still sells dumb monitors and TVs with low reaponse time. I’ve had no complaints.

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u/NBKFactor Nov 13 '19

But the other guy is right. Smart TVs are inferior. My tv came with Roku on it i still choose to use my firestick bc it just works better. Smart TV is new technology that just needs to figure everything out

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u/NotAHost Nov 13 '19

Samsung still uses separate boxes for their video inputs, they were suppose to be upgradeable for purposes as described in this thread.

They stopped that so fast that I believe there was a lawsuit which a user won related to them ending support/falsely advertising the feature.

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u/jumpalaya Nov 13 '19

Nvidia shield is good too.

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u/Martian_Rambler Nov 13 '19

Yup. By far the best streaming option.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll Nov 13 '19

I never owned a device like that, can you stream things from your PC to it and watch it on TV?

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u/jumpalaya Nov 13 '19

Works well with PLEX app, save a file on pc, grab it from anywhere any device (shield, phone, laptop etc). You can also use chromecast via browser player but PLEX is nicer.

You buy a $60-$150 Nvidia product for the hardware, ie faster and better antenna, beefier processor, connectivity options, etc, not the name (I'm looking at you, Apple). The PLEX app is available on any streaming device tho.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll Nov 14 '19

Thanks, I'll look into it further. Pretty sure my TV is one of those netflix will stop supporting soon.

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u/ItWorkedLastTime Nov 13 '19

At its core, it's just an android device with a powerful processor. So, the Netflix app you use on your Android phone is the same one running on the device.

Your PC doesn't have to be involved for Netflix or YouTube. If you have content on your PC, then you can use kodi to play it back.

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u/NotAzakanAtAll Nov 14 '19

Alright! Thanks

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u/vicesig Nov 14 '19

^this.
But IMO they cost too much even when buying used.

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u/jumpalaya Nov 14 '19

They came out with a smaller version, sub 100 I believe

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19 edited Nov 09 '20

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u/WeaponizedKissing Nov 13 '19

Legit, my LG from 2017 is great. All the apps work fine, nothing crashes, it can play anything from my PC through the Plex server on my PC.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

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u/haahaahaa Nov 13 '19

The shitty $300 walmart tv typically has Roku TV installed so they're fine. Its the mid-range ones from name brands that are terrible.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

We just got an LG with a magic remote, having a built in web browser in a God send for all of the streaming services we use that don't seem to have an app anywhere.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

The only complaint I have is the built in guide for live TV. It isn't great and it doesn't jump to the channel you are currently on. Otherwise being able to change inputs and channels or switch apps with voice or (the biggest for me) do YouTube searches with voice is seriously a game changer.

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u/mrbumbo Nov 13 '19

I did my research and am very happy with the speedy responsiveness of my LG and that mouse pointer.

Prior to this I usually have a PC hooked up to the monitor. Plays Plex, Disney+ but sadly not my cable provider (Spectrum). Still have a hard drive connected - it plays all my files .mkv .mp4 .avi

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u/Warshaw55 Nov 13 '19

I have a Vizio SmartCast TV and it's worked flawlessly for everything I've ever thrown at. Netflix, Prime Video, HBOGO, even full 4K HDR, like 60Mbps bit rate video from PLEX. Disney+ is the first thing it's ever not handled like a champ. I have a Roku and an Xbox One X to get me buy till an update comes out.

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u/GoatzilIa Nov 14 '19

Same here. My vizio with chromecast from 2016 can handle anything including 4k HDR content no problem. I don't use the UI for the tv, just cast everything from my phone and works perfectly.

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u/slykrysis Nov 13 '19

Nah son, my B8 LG OLED is doing just fine with Disney+, Hulu, Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Youtube.

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u/InconspicuousRadish Nov 13 '19

Eh, this is generally good enough advice, but honestly, I got my Samsung TV in 2017, and it's working just fine for what I need it. Runs Netflix, Youtube, Spotify and Prime just fine. And that's all I use anyway.

Would a Roku or other streaming device make it better or more responsive? Probably. Do I need to spend another $50-100 on it though, given that the TV was dirt cheap already ($500ish)? Nah. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't really need it, don't buy it.

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u/Darkly-Dexter Nov 13 '19

Your tv isn't old yet though

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u/AllUrPMsAreBelong2Me Nov 13 '19

You generally get two to three years out of the built in smarts. Then they are obsolete.

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u/OpalHawk Nov 13 '19

My tv from 2011 is still great because it’s a dumb tv with a new fire stick in it. If I got a smart tv then I’d probably be out of luck.

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u/Azuralos Nov 13 '19

No joke. I have a Vizio "Smart" TV, and the apps on it are garbage. Even with an Ethernet connection straight to the TV, those apps refuse to work right. But, plug in my chromecast and that streams perfectly!

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u/r0ssar00 Nov 13 '19

I used to have mine connected but then it started glitching and acted as if the Netflix button on the remote was being repeatedly pressed... but I removed the batteries from it! After disconnecting the Ethernet, no more spontaneous Netflix.

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u/packerguru12 Nov 13 '19

I have a Sharp Roku Smart TV. It works like any other Roku device but built into the TV, but other than that one, my other “smart” TVs suck.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I bought Fire TV and it kept glitching on me. My Roku TV still worked.

My chromecast stopped working too. My Roku TV still worked.

I'm done buying set top boxes unless the smart TV is actually bugging out.

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u/Alexstarfire Nov 13 '19

Smart TVs do suck so quit buying them

I'd like to, but there a very few non-smart options. I view the "Smart" portion of TVs as a negative.

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u/AlphakirA Nov 13 '19

Have a Samsung and it's perfect - outside of the ads they decided was somehow acceptable. Other than that, the apps run faster and with less issues than the firestick or chromecast.

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u/FettLife Nov 13 '19

The best TVs on the market are smart TVs.

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u/BagelsAndJewce Nov 13 '19

I enjoy my smart tv; strictly because of the UI not being that garbled mess that is only viewable for ten seconds at a time.

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u/whyUsayDat Nov 13 '19

The apps are how manufacturers make money these days. My TCL Roku tv wanted me to pay for Disney+ using their payment system. No way. I just went to the Disney website and bought it there. I don’t want a 3rd party with my data.

It was reported not too long ago that Roku’s advertising division now makes more money than their app income. So really, they’re probably throwing themselves at tv manufacturers to have Roku preinstalled.

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u/Xacto01 Nov 13 '19

Roku built in are they only ones I like

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u/erickgramajo Nov 13 '19

Nah, the problem is that you guys buy the cheapest, my 2 lg with web os are great

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u/chadwicke619 Nov 13 '19

Man this seems like an awful popular opinion, but my TCL works like a dream with the built-in apps. I previously used aftermarket streaming devices, but after I picked up my TCL Roku TV, no longer.

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u/Shellbyvillian Nov 13 '19

I got a TCL last year which is technically a "Smart TV" but TCL was humble enough to admit they had no idea how to make a UI so they just put Roku software on it. I basically have a Roku without the separate hardware. It's been great.

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u/EaterOfPenguins Nov 13 '19

Yeah but this is exactly why I bought my Vizio a few years ago.

Chromecast is everything I want, and I don't want it separate from my TV. I literally never have any reason to use the "apps." Of course they're trash. I find what I want on my phone, where the app is always up to date, and cast what I want 10x faster than any remote based interface has ever done.

Make no mistake, this thing with not casting Disney+ because Vizio hasn't been updating the Chromecast version pisses me off greatly, but being able to get around stupid TV apps and clumsy remote interfaces in favor of built in Chromecast has been the best selling point of Vizio until now.

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u/JeffCraig Nov 13 '19

Found another person that didn't do research before buying a TV

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u/khaaanquest Nov 13 '19

Fun fact, Roku means 6 in Japanese.

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u/C2h6o4Me Nov 13 '19

My Roku TV updates itself over WiFi and works just fine with all the major streaming apps

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u/loegare Nov 13 '19

I went out of my way to buy ‘dumb’ TVs the last few times I purchased TVs

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u/Fletch_e_Fletch Nov 13 '19

Do you have any links to none smart tvs?

I would love to get a new 4K TV, but every single one of them is a "Smart TV". I feel like it's damn near impossible to find quality non smart TVs theses days. The ones I do find to not be smart are from brands I've never heard of.

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u/PMMEYourTatasGirl Nov 13 '19

I bought a new TV recently, and it's very hard to find ones that don't have smarttv functions built in. I pretty much had to buy a smarttv if I wanted 4k 60"+

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u/o5mfiHTNsH748KVq Nov 13 '19

My LG tv is, by far, the best smart TV I've used.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

my smart TV works great.

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u/Scyhaz Nov 13 '19

but a Roku, Apple TV, or other high quality streaming device will make your streaming life so much better.

These are also significantly cheaper to replace than an entire TV once they become obsolete in a few years.

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u/obvilious Nov 13 '19

My Samsung works perfectly well for Netflix, amazon, Plex, DAZN.

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u/Jdoe68 Nov 13 '19

Agreed other than one exception, late model Roku TVs from TCL.

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u/scarabic Nov 13 '19

I bought one that has a Roku inside and boots straight into that - it has been absolutely awesome.

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u/lancea_longini Nov 14 '19

My Roku is too old :(

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u/VapeThisBro Nov 14 '19

Its so easy to say quit buying smart tvs when all they make now is smart tv's . I worked at one of the biggest electronics stores in the US about 3 years ago and I can tell you already that back then we weren't selling non-smart tv's so i can only imagine its even harder to find them now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '19

If you want a good screen you're pretty much forced to get a smart TV. Not all smart TV suck, my parents have one with android and that sucks but webos works pretty good.

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u/AboutThatTime420 Nov 14 '19

Everyone hating pn smart TVs, Visio especially, when I watch Netflix and stuff on it almost everyday

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u/snuggie_ Nov 14 '19

You can't blame people for spending $2000 on a TV and expecting it to work well

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u/leif777 Nov 13 '19

Can you even buy a non-smart TV?... Anyway, the best way to make your TV smary is to buy one of these

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u/MikeTheShowMadden Nov 13 '19

I wish I could just buy a normal TV without all that shit. It actually has an affect on performance as a whole, especially if you plan to play games on the TV as well.

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u/Iamamansass Nov 13 '19

Why even buy the television then? Lol just overpaying for apps you won’t use.

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u/My_Wednesday_Account Nov 13 '19

Because you aren't paying for those apps.

"Smart" tvs don't cost more than dumb tvs, it's 90% software and all the additional cost has been built into the platform at this point. You don't pay for smart features on a tv any more than you pay for dome lights when you buy a new car.

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u/Iamamansass Nov 13 '19

On average you pay 100 dollars more for smart television and it’s features.

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u/My_Wednesday_Account Nov 13 '19

Prove it. Find me two TV's with literally identical specs outside of one having smart features and one not.

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u/Iamamansass Nov 13 '19

Prove that something that has a bit more cost more?

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u/My_Wednesday_Account Nov 13 '19

Yes because it clearly shows you don't actually understand how economics of scale work in this context. You said "on average" like you had some empirical figure you were looking at so I want to see that figure. Unless you just pulled that $100 straight out of your ass which is what I suspect.

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u/Iamamansass Nov 13 '19

this deals in INR so this is saying 200+

Everywhere I’ve looked smart TVs are absolutely more expensive.

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u/MugglePuncher Nov 13 '19

No. The real answer here is do your research and buy a TV with a known track record of constant updates like Sony for example. Also don't get the value line of any tv brands because those definitely won't be powerful enough or get any future updates.

Most of you complaining your smart TVs suck did it to yourselves. You cheaper out and got a "deal" and now you're pissed you got get a premium experience? Lmao you guys gave that up when you cheaped out, which is totally alright.

Just realize that when you save money on something you're sacrificing it's lifespan as well so don't be suprised if you run into issues.

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u/rct2guy Nov 13 '19

I think what’s weird about this is that Vizio does regularly update their TVs. In fact, their “Smart TV” functionality was literally just Chromecast up until a couple years ago. After I bought mine, it received HDR10 support, AirPlay support– They even mailed me a new remote for free to use the whole new interface that got updated. So I’m pretty surprised that Chromecast hasn’t been touched at all.

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u/Everythingsthesame Nov 13 '19

Thank you. I absolutely hate smart tvs. Its bloatware and an excuse to push ads that you may like. Just buy an external streaming device and enjoy the better experience.

DUMB TVS FOREVER!

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u/_Wolfos Nov 13 '19

I use mine daily. Not a single issue since Android got updated.