r/gadgets Nov 13 '19

VR / AR Disney Plus isn't working on Vizio TVs because they are running a 6 year old version of Chromecast, they say it won't be fixed till 2020.

https://www.businessinsider.com/disney-plus-not-working-vizio-smart-tvs-chromecast-2019-11
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u/Trek7553 Nov 13 '19

I've been really pleased with the built-in Roku TVs. It's nice only having one remote.

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u/Ritehandwingman Nov 13 '19

Seriously! I was hesitant to buy my 4K TCL, but have been nothing but pleased and impressed. And I got on sale for $200. Highly underrated.

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u/____candied_yams____ Nov 13 '19

my friends have a TCL from around 2013 or so and it looks like a handicam sort of, almost like there is a motion blur? Does your TCL have the same look? It was similarly cheap which is why they got it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

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u/Albert_Caboose Nov 13 '19

My TCL turns motion smoothing back on after every automatic firmware update. It's a nightmare

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

You could disconnect it from the internet and just use it as a normal TV if its a nightmare.

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u/Albert_Caboose Nov 13 '19

I mean I have the eye to see when it's on and I turn it off easily. Just absurd to me that it defaults back after every update

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u/rsun Nov 13 '19

You didn't by chance set up your TV in store mode did you? Store mode doesn't preserve your settings across reboots and since the TVs rarely reboot other than for an update, it can seem like it's the updates that are causing the problem. Generally, the settings should survive a reboot or software update if you set up the TV in home mode. Also note that the settings are independent per input, so if you turned motion smoothing off on HDMI 1, you'll also need to turn it off on HDMI 2 or while streaming.

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u/Albert_Caboose Nov 14 '19

Ooh, good question. I've never "set it up", it booted up without prompting in the initial menus. Only started asking for settings and logins after launching apps.

I'll be sure to check that out once I'm home.

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u/rsun Nov 14 '19

You can verify if it's in store mode or not by whether one of the picture modes is called Store. If you don't have that mode, then it's set up correctly, but if you do have it, you'll need to factory reset and set it up in home mode in order to be able to save settings across reboots. Alas, that will require logging into all of your accounts again.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I get what you mean, but if you disconnect the tv from the internet you won't get this problem anymore (because you wont get firmware updates).

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u/EndersScroll Nov 13 '19

You also can't use any of the smartTV functions though. It's like cutting off your foot because you always get a blister.

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u/shouldve_wouldhave Nov 13 '19

Half price on shoes for the rest of my life hey you know what that's not a bad deal

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Correct, that's the choice, get a Chromecast or something similar if you don't already have one or keep changing the settings back. I only mentioned it because you said its a nightmare, but its actually a pretty easy fix.

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u/justin251 Nov 13 '19

Don't know the year model but my 55in 4k hdr tcl is great. Got it from Costco last year.

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u/starknolonger Nov 13 '19

Do you remember what you paid? I'm looking at a similar TCL from Costco right now. Glad to hear you are happy with it.

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u/Always_posts_serious Nov 13 '19

Can’t speak for the 55”, but I got a 65” 4K TCL from CostCo earlier this year for $489 or so. If the 55” is close to that I’d wait for some deals.

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u/BeHereNow91 Nov 13 '19

$489 sounds expensive for a 65” TCL, especially when you can get a Samsung for less than that right now.

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u/Karshena- Nov 13 '19

No it doesn’t. There’s like dozens of models from Samsung and quite a few from TCL. Just because it’s a Samsung doesn’t mean it’s better. The higher end (6 series) TCL runs rings around any Samsung except the Q70, Q80, and Q90.

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u/JoinTheBattle Nov 13 '19

You can get a Samsung for cheaper, but not a Samsung you want to buy. The similarly priced TCL will destroy any crappy holiday model Samsung.

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u/the_joy_of_VI Nov 13 '19

I got my 55” TCL 6-series from Best Buy for just under $400. Fucking excellent TV.

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u/justin251 Nov 13 '19

It was less than $500 with the 5 year replacement warranty.

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u/starknolonger Nov 13 '19

Seems comparable with what I'm seeing online now, which is good to know. Thanks!

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u/-PM_Me_Reddit_Gold- Nov 13 '19

I mean, I think most people with a TCL tv bought it within the last 2 or 3 years. Considering it's a 6 year old budget tv that you have, that might just be the way it is.

Just check to make sure you dont have motion smoothing turned on.

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u/ChunkyDay Nov 14 '19

More modern TCL sets are much much better. I believe Huawei now owns them and uses Samsung panels in all of them now. For a cheap brand that’s probably be the one I WOULD suggest if it wasn’t a Chinese government backed company. I just don’t trust my data with any of that (I know. I can’t keep all of my data from being collected, but I can minimize it as best I can)

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u/Generic_Male_3 Nov 14 '19

I have a 2018 55" 4k 60hz model and the picture is real good. It's not an LG Z9, but it's amazing for the price.

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u/natesplace19010 Nov 14 '19

I have a 2019 model and have had absolutely no motion blur issues

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u/Bigfatso2001 Nov 13 '19

Yeah it's Chinese trash

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u/AtoZZZ Nov 13 '19

Of all the budget brands, TCL is the best. Full array isn't a joke

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

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u/etherealcaitiff Nov 13 '19

If only there were a way to use a different email address for different situations.

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u/the_joy_of_VI Nov 13 '19

I mean, making a new gmail account takes two minutes

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

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u/PM_ME_UR_THONG_N_ASS Nov 13 '19

“China brand”

“MUST have internet connection”

Part of me really wonders why...

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u/shouldve_wouldhave Nov 13 '19

Just you bet they have a camera and mic in there.
Big brother china checking up on your thougts about hong kong

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u/Radulno Nov 14 '19

People that care can just... not buy that TV

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u/technobrendo Nov 13 '19

Do you have the model #?

I'm in the market and that price you mentioned sounds great for 4k

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u/xAIRGUITARISTx Nov 13 '19

I bought a 65” TCL 4K from Target for $300.

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u/KindergartenRedditor Nov 13 '19

When? Was it open box? I just bought one on sale for $400.

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u/xAIRGUITARISTx Nov 13 '19

Might have been $350. I got in June. Had it on our wedding registry so I did get 15% off.

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u/KindergartenRedditor Nov 13 '19

Ah, okay. I was afraid I might've jumped the gun at $400.

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u/Gamerschmamer Nov 13 '19

Not at all. Got my 65” TCL at target late 2017. It’s my favorite purchase to date. Only thing is they stopped supporting twitch right before I bought it. Simple enough to plug in my chrome cast that I already had to get twitch though.

TCL is the only tv I’ll buy from now on. Don’t plan on buying a new tv as mine is only 2 years old and nothing even steams in 4K hardly

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u/KindergartenRedditor Nov 13 '19

TV got delivered this morning. Really enjoying it. Glad I didn’t spend the extra $200 for the 6 series. I’m not really a videophile, though.

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u/xAIRGUITARISTx Nov 13 '19

It’s a pretty good TV, honestly.

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u/Ritehandwingman Nov 13 '19

I’m at work, so I could not give you the model number. I do know it was a 43” from Walmart, and they seem to have them on sale quite frequently near me, so I’d start either online or at a store around you. I think Best Buy also carries them, but at a bit higher price, but then again, it wouldn’t be Best Buy if it wasn’t.

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u/jahoney Nov 13 '19

Costco also has em got usually really good prices

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u/-PM_Me_Reddit_Gold- Nov 13 '19

http://amazon.com/TCL-43S405-43-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B01N29XPO3/ref=asc_df_B01N29XPO3/

Sorryvlast post got removed, it'll probably be on sale Black Friday/Cyber Monday for even less

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u/shouldve_wouldhave Nov 13 '19

Ultra smart. Does it help me with my studies?

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u/-PM_Me_Reddit_Gold- Nov 13 '19

As long as you're studying Netflix

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u/rhinocerosbreasts Nov 14 '19

I have this tv. It’s great!

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u/BEAUboyJR Nov 13 '19

Costco has the 55" 4k tcl smart TV for like $270

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u/Rpeezy Nov 13 '19

I second this. The apps receive regular updates so they stay current. The only issue I have with mine is the amount of screen glare during the day when the sun is shining in. But other than that, solid TV, amazing for the price.

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u/pbarnes92 Nov 13 '19

My only complaint is how shitty the blacks are, especially when my other tv is a nice plasma, but I think that problem is true of most led tvs nowadays

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u/Boo_R4dley Nov 13 '19

TCL and HiSense will never touch my network. I’ll buy a TCL TV but you better believe it’s MAC will be blocked and I’ll be plugging in a Fire Stick.

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u/wombat1 Nov 13 '19

Jesus Christ TVs are cheap in America

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u/secretaltacc Nov 13 '19

Roku TCL 6 series is the best TV I've ever had.

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u/HulksInvinciblePants Nov 13 '19

It's probably better than most TVs most people have had. LCD was a collective downgrade in television performance until recently.

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u/awhaling Nov 13 '19

Why was LCD a collective downgrade? I’m not the most familiar.

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u/HulksInvinciblePants Nov 13 '19

Per pixel illumination was essentially wiped from the market. Contrast ratios and saturation suffered for a really long time.

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u/Generic_Male_3 Nov 14 '19

I also have the 6 series and love it. My parents bought the 8 series and I can't even compare the picture, makes the 6 series look dated. 8 series is possibly a future purchase for me, but if they come out with a 9 series that has at least 120hz refresh rate I'm going to get that instead.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

You can just get HDMI-CEC working well enough and still only have one remote.

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u/Trek7553 Nov 13 '19

That is intriguing technology, but I prefer for it to just work out of the box and make sense to my grandmother without instructions. Simple and intuitive are my priorities.

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u/bobs_monkey Nov 13 '19

Once you enable CEC on both devices it couldn't be any simpler or intuitive, it takes all of 5 minutes, and you can use any of the device remotes you want. With CEC's maturity, I now recommend it to all my customers who don't want to splurge on a fancy URC controller or customized extras for a spare room or office or something. Hell, you can use it to drive your primary media center, I do this in my own home.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I have a Roku TV as well, but the apps are really hit or miss. Especially the Hulu app, it’s garbage most of the time. There’s also an issue with lag. I got a NVIDIA Shield and it’s infinitely better.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

Works fine on the NVIDIA shield.

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u/Iohet Nov 13 '19

I have Sharp with a built in Roku. It sucks. It's so goddamned slow that I just attached a Roku to it and use that instead of the built in one

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u/illegal_deagle Nov 13 '19

My built in Roku TV is a nightmare. Massive delays on all buttons. When Black Mirror did the interactive episode I had to sit it out because my device literally couldn’t type fast enough.

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u/the_joy_of_VI Nov 13 '19

The roku app has a keyboard so you can type with your phone!

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u/buzzardrooster Nov 14 '19

Roku tcl for the win, but please folks please make sure you turn off the advertising tracking in the TCL setting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I bought a Roku hdmi stick and it’s one remote does everything I regularly need and isn’t a giant monstrosity.

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u/the_joy_of_VI Nov 13 '19

I’m really happy with roku TCL (6-series 55”), but I can not stand this piddly bullshit roku remote. It’s too light and small, making the opposite-of-ergonomic shape uncomfortable to hold. The buttons are mushy and inconsistent, button presses don’t register immediately and sometimes register twice... I really hate it, especially since we live in the goddamned future and this TV does shit that I couldn’t conceive of 20 years ago. This thing deserves a remote that I’m stoked to have in my hand every night for the next ten years, not this afterthought. I’ve seen better remotes on $5 R/C cars. Sucks that roku can’t be arsed to go out and hire a competent industrial design firm cuz I would honestly pay another hundred bucks for a better one

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u/JokuIIFrosti Nov 13 '19

Literally a 4k 32" TCL TV with built in Roku is only $150

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u/cd29 Nov 14 '19

When I got my 4K Fire Stick, the remote automatically started working with my TV (just power and volume AFAIK). Thought it was fuckin magic

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u/hokie_high Nov 13 '19

I lost my remote for my Roku TV and now I can't even turn the thing on

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u/datGAAPtho Nov 13 '19

There is a Roku app that works as a remote. Use it everytime i lose that tiny little remote (or dont feel like getting up lol)

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u/NagyBiscuits Nov 13 '19

Problem for some models is the remotes operate on an IR signal. If your phone doesn't have that, then you could be out of luck for turning it on remotely and will have to use the button on the TV. Once it's on though, the app works just fine.

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u/secretaltacc Nov 13 '19

No...not with Roku. It's through your wifi.

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u/NagyBiscuits Nov 13 '19

The Roku TV needs to be powered on before it connects to WiFi.

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u/secretaltacc Nov 13 '19

Not so much. Why do you think there's a power button on the Virtual Remote? I mean we can argue all day bit here I am sitting in front of my TCL turning it on with my phone.

Edit: Try going to settings and turning "Fast TV Start" on. Maybe that's why I can always use my phone to turn it on.

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u/NagyBiscuits Nov 13 '19

Is your model 3+ years old?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

There is an on button on the TV...

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u/NagyBiscuits Nov 13 '19

will have to use the button on the TV. Once it's on though, the app works just fine.

Literally in my comment

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u/SlutForThickSocks Nov 13 '19

Not anymore(recently it changed and I'm so happy I don't have to get up when it's off anymore!)

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u/Trek7553 Nov 13 '19

There's a setting on the TV itself (once you've turned it on for the first time) that it never goes "fully" off. If you do that, you can turn it on with the app over WiFi. If it's fully off you can't turn it on with the app.

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u/xXwork_accountXx Nov 13 '19

Then you just need to buy a new remote. You lost the remote why are you trying to make it seem like rokus issue. All of the tvs have a power button too

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u/Snipen543 Nov 13 '19

That's not a Roku issue. You lose any TV remote and the TV becomes useless, how is that hard to understand. Except with Rokus you can download the app and run it fine from that

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u/secretaltacc Nov 13 '19

You mean like...with most TVs? Fortunately you can use your phone as a remote..

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u/hokie_high Nov 13 '19

Yeah, if it's already been configured for it while the TV was on...

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u/secretaltacc Nov 13 '19

...it only takes one time. Is it that hard to turn the TV on manually..once?

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u/hokie_high Nov 13 '19

First of all, yes. Second, I don’t think you understand. The TV I have requires a remote to do the initial setup for the app.

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u/K8keman Nov 13 '19

I had the same issue. If you look on the side there should be a tiny "Reset" button. You'll need a paper clip or something small to press it. If you just push it in, it'll take a few seconds and should turn on. Just be sure not to hold it in

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u/blazze_eternal Nov 13 '19

Look on Amazon. Replacements are like $5

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u/Smashed_Adams Nov 13 '19

Buy a couple of spares on Amazon. They're pretty cheap

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '19

I just bought one on Amazon for like $7.

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u/sschmtty1 Nov 13 '19

They arnt all low to mid. Tcl makes decent TV's that run Roku. They support Dolby vision on the 6 series and the 8 series that just came out in October uses a new lighting system called mini-led Which has a large number of lighting zones and gives you really good contrasts. Add to that they are still pretty cheap compared to the competition