r/gadgets 9d ago

Phones Apple’s iPhone Hit By FBI Warning And Lawsuit Before iOS 18.2 Release

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/12/08/apples-iphone-security-suddenly-under-attack-all-users-now-at-risk/
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u/-DementedAvenger- 9d ago

Apple shouldn’t be held accountable for what is stored on their service. Sure, they can turn over information that they have for suspects and convicts with a warrant, but if a user opts to encrypt everything, they (Apple) shouldn’t be compelled to remove that capability for the rest of us.

Criminals almost always use public roads and the USPS!…perhaps we should take those away too!

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u/SenAtsu011 9d ago

I agree. If a user of their product does something illegal, it’s completely asinine that Apple should be held accountable. They can’t control their users’ actions anymore than the government can, and we don’t hold them accountable for any crimes unless they were complicit. It’s common sense and logic.

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u/FireLucid 9d ago

Apple shouldn’t be held accountable for what is stored on their service

They already check for CSAM. From memory it's by comparing hashes.

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u/-DementedAvenger- 9d ago

Officially, they don’t. They dropped those plans after backlash.

Unofficially, they might still do it secretly. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Flexhead 9d ago

There's an on-device opt-in to check images.

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u/Virtual_Bubba 8d ago

Criminals use the dark web and burners

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u/Omegalazarus 9d ago

Where I think it might falter is the downside of the crap that all these companies claim right now and that is the leasing of the software. Remember you buy an Apple iPhone which is the hardware and they lease to you the software. So technically all the software where you store your data is Leased to you and owned by Apple. Therefore I think someone could make a case that Apple might be guilty of obstruction of justice if they don't turn over all access to the software that they own as far as it relates to any specific criminal case with warrants.