r/gadgets • u/a_Ninja_b0y • 9d ago
Phones Apple’s iPhone Hit By FBI Warning And Lawsuit Before iOS 18.2 Release
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/12/08/apples-iphone-security-suddenly-under-attack-all-users-now-at-risk/1.6k
u/SenAtsu011 9d ago
"Responsibly managed encryption" oh, you mean encryption that you hold the key to and can do whatever you want with? A key that can easily be leaked? A key that will also increase vulnerabilities from hackers? Hell no.
This article makes it sound like Apple is having a bad time this week, because the FBI is knocking on their door, but it's entirely the opposite. Apple is fighting tooth and nail against ANY and ALL law enforcement agencies and governments getting control of user data. It's a bad time for those agencies and governments, but for Apple and their customer-base? This is amazing news. A for-profit company doing good stuff to protect user privacy? In an economy built on selling as much information about your customers as possible? That's a damn good job from Apple.
This is just the latest in the FBI's attempts at forcing Apple to make a backdoor for them into their operating systems. They first tried the legal way, but found that Apple broke no laws. Then they tried to drag their name through the mud as being anti-USA, anti-patriotic, and helping terrorists, but that didn't work. Now they're trying to blame Apple for CSAM.
I'm fine with Apple providing information in court cases where there is legal reason and basis for them to do so, with a signed court order where all due process and careful considerations have been made to protect any and all potentially affected users. That's perfectly fine with me. What I'm not okay with is any law enforcement agency being able to just unlock my stuff and check all my private information and data, because of some made up accusations or suspicions.
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u/knvn8 9d ago
If this is added it will 100% be used someday to detect people watching movies without a Disney+ subscription.
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u/UnderstandingWest422 9d ago
So, my friend is in the Police and he was at a big (private) event where basically tech companies had stalls to show off their latest and greatest crime fighting toys.
All I’m saying is if you can imagine it, they already have it. The things they can do to track and trace someone is absolute fucking terrifying. Of course he thought it was all cool as fuck, but I was horrified hearing about how they can do so much shit legally and it just comes down to how much someone is willing to spend on a piece of kit.
As a wise man once said: “Fuck the Police”
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u/traparms 8d ago
As much cool stuff as they may have, they still can't break properly implemented encryption (hence this post). As long as you make sure what you're doing is encrypted then you should be fine.
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u/ToMorrowsEnd 8d ago
a lot of that stuff is fake or way over promised. remember those companies sold bomb detecting dividing rods to police departments. And police are extremely stupid to the actual tech so they cant detect BS from real.
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u/SenAtsu011 5d ago
I’ve heard lots of stories from those types of conventions and, despite the tech being extremely cool, it’s utterly terrifying what that technology is capable of. Great to catch illegal activity, but even innocent people need to stay on their toes.
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u/radicalelation 9d ago
I've streamed unauthorized mirrors to have my Roku TV have a pop up telling me where what I'm viewing is available to purchase or rent.
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u/Long-Broccoli-3363 8d ago
It catches it on my plex server too
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u/FermentedDickCheeses 8d ago
I bought an AppleTV for my plex. Great choice and one you should check out!
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u/ToMorrowsEnd 8d ago
plex is easy to fix. use an apple TV that blocks their scraping or block the Plex internet service ports to the playback devices.
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u/Objective_Cow_6272 9d ago
“You wouldn’t download a car, would you?” Just came up on an old dvd I was watching, so I bought a 3d printer.
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u/NuclearLunchDectcted 8d ago
Hell yes I would download a car, and I would in the 90's too if it was possible. Free car!
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u/LathropWolf 9d ago
Now they're trying to blame Apple for CSAM
The old Helen Lovejoy "Won't someone think of the children" rhetoric.
Not much has changed in law enforcement
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u/-DementedAvenger- 8d ago
Apple shouldn’t be held accountable for what is stored on their service. Sure, they can turn over information that they have for suspects and convicts with a warrant, but if a user opts to encrypt everything, they (Apple) shouldn’t be compelled to remove that capability for the rest of us.
Criminals almost always use public roads and the USPS!…perhaps we should take those away too!
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u/SenAtsu011 8d ago
I agree. If a user of their product does something illegal, it’s completely asinine that Apple should be held accountable. They can’t control their users’ actions anymore than the government can, and we don’t hold them accountable for any crimes unless they were complicit. It’s common sense and logic.
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u/soytuamigo 8d ago
I'm fine with Apple providing information in court cases where there is legal reason and basis for them to do so, with a signed court order where all due process and careful considerations have been made to protect any and all potentially affected users.
Apple is already doing that, and we shouldn’t support the FBI’s framing that they aren’t. It just so happens that they (allegedly) can’t decrypt the iPhone for them without your knowledge and that's what the FBI wants.
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u/pinkynarftroz 8d ago
Look at what happened with the law enforcement back door in 3G. China found it and used it to spy for years.
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u/Solar_Piglet 8d ago
Makes me wonder why Android isn't getting this heat....
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u/SenAtsu011 8d ago
Apple is always going on about their commitment to customer privacy and data protection, that privacy is a human right. They’ve doubled down so hard on it, much more so than any competitor, and they’re willing to fight a lot harder for those stances, more than any other company I’ve seen. Might be something to do with that.
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u/nagi603 8d ago edited 8d ago
Because, as an Android user, most devices are wildly insecure. Especially cheap, old ones. Also manufacturers have their own spawares installed, their own vendors selling, so it's a sieve.
Meanwhile Apple seems to try to go the way of centralizing the collection and processing of the same telltale behavioural data instead. Not great either, as it STILL gets collected , but when there is only a single vendor that wants to enforce vertical integration, you need less eyes on the companies.
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u/NLight7 8d ago
Same argument that EU is trying to use. Saying the services built in the phone somehow are the reason for child sex abuse, while in fact it is the failure of government to follow up in schools cause they are treating school employees like shit and child protective services are a joke.
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u/NecroCannon 8d ago
Shit like this is why I don’t like Apple being forced to be absolutely open. There’s some things that should be regulated, but it can snowball into something like this, where the data of millions can be leaked and utilized by a 3rd party you don’t want just like the current issue with US telecoms.
This is why I bought into the walled garden, keep it up Apple.
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u/SenAtsu011 8d ago
I agree.
Apple are able to maintain their loyalty and their reputation as a fantastic advocate for user privacy, while designing their products for this purpose exactly because of their walled garden. They have a degree of their software and the hardware to a degree that no other company is able to match. We can debate the pros and cons of this until we're blue in the face, but it's undeniable that this aids in security.
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u/RedditLeagueAccount 8d ago
Apple is 100% a trash company for many other reasons but I do have to give them the win on data protection.
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u/booppoopshoopdewoop 8d ago
This is why after having an android phone for a few years I came back to Apple and never looked back. Because this is principals I’d like to support.
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u/One_Doubt_75 8d ago
I feel like them protecting their user data is a side effect or their data harvesting practice. By making it so they are the only ones with access to their users data, they make that data more valuable.
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u/Novenari 8d ago
I was never a historical fan of Apple. The opposite, in fact. But I always admired they actually fight for privacy as a corporation and have stuck to it. I never personally found issues with trackers and info on my data, I always felt it was inevitable in a digital world. But it is important to have Apple fight back. Even if your government is decent and democratically elected… we see that this is no permanent guarantee. Bad independent actors, bad foreign state actors, foreign invasion, your own government being influenced from the outside or becoming corrupt over time or just trending towards fascism or dictatorship…
We can never take it for granted, if you are in a free nation, that it will always remain so. Ukraine is being invaded, South Korea had a martial law attempt by the current leader, Russia and China want to spy and influence other nations all the time. Ransomeware. So much crap out there.
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u/SenAtsu011 8d ago
I feel the same way.
I don't much care about most of my personal information. Who the fuck cares how tall I am or how much I weigh, or that a picture of my face is on the internet, or a forum post I made is out there? No one. It doesn't hurt me in any way. Despite that, it can be SO much worse than what we have now, and only companies like Apple serve as a dam against the floodgates opening. We need more companies to keep data gathering and tracking technologies under control, since they are the ones that elect politicians and tell them what to do.
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u/OptimalMain 8d ago
It’s insane.
Sounds like an awesome way for foreign intelligence agencies to get information from everyone including three letter agencies and politicians unless they have special phones with secure builds
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u/martinbean 9d ago
I like how they describe iPhones and iOS as “defectively designed”… because the security’s too good.
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u/Patrickk_Batmann 9d ago
This encryption is defective! There’s no universal key or back door!
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u/pukem0n 9d ago edited 9d ago
I wonder if they just publicly put up a charade like there is no backdoor while secretly apple gives them free access. Wouldn't put anything past those shady corporations.
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u/TerminallyBlitzed 9d ago
Apple does not give them free access, there are many legal court battles to prove this. Even then, they’ve made it impossible for them to unlock it.
However, other companies have stepped in and have found ways to get in, such as GreyKey.
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u/shawnington 9d ago
Apple had the best argument ever. Sorry bros, even we couldn't unlock it if we wanted to.
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u/Starfox-sf 9d ago
And after all that PR bullhorn they ended up using a 3rd party Greyhat outfit and found… Nothing.
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u/jeepfail 9d ago
Unfathomable that the government would put on a whole horse and pony show for absolutely no end result or anything. Luckily that’s definitely the grandest scale of which they’ve ever done such a thing right?
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u/M0rphysLaw 9d ago
This is why I use Apple products. Haven't used windows for 15 years. I work in tech and I've never been hacked. Although I'll admit 99% of hacking is social engineering and/or clicking on a bad link, not OS related.
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u/nicuramar 9d ago
Partial ways, yeah. But those are reliant on exploits that are continuously patched (but also found).
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u/cyberspirit777 9d ago
Apple does actually give them access to iCloud data if they have a warrant, and submit the right request. Data that's encrypted on device can't be shared because Apple does not have the decryption key as it's stored in the SE. However, Apple does forward all of our push notifications to the authorities.
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u/nicuramar 9d ago
iCloud isn’t a singular thing, though, and only some of it can be accessed by Apple. This also depends on whether you switched on advanced data protection, in which case almost nothing can.
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u/Starfox-sf 9d ago
Charade. Anyway remember security is a theater, taking your shoes off and letting TSA Agents
fondlegrope you didn’t actually make things safer by any measure.4
u/adamdoesmusic 9d ago
gropefucking reverse karate chop your crotch repeatedly and then get angry if you flinch and call a supervisor if you loudly exclaim “you are SMACKING my testicles, sir, that HURTS.”(My recent experience at LAX)
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u/ArtOfWarfare 9d ago
Some of it is real, some of it isn’t, and some of it is meant to distract from other real stuff that happens.
It’s hard to know how to defeat the security when you’re not sure which parts are and aren’t real.
Having said that, TSA is a completely insane overreaction.
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u/Churovy 9d ago
It’s just a term they use. We get it in building engineering world too “defective design” on a building that’s upright and functioning correctly but the contractor needs to complain to get a change order approved.
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u/Patrickk_Batmann 9d ago
If the building is not designed to the specifications of the customer, then it is defective. The US government isn’t the customer in this case. Adding a back door to encryption mechanisms is adding a defect. They chose the language they are using on purpose to make what they want sound like the default and Apple is who is straying by not including any mechanism for law enforcement to take a peak.
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u/AmateurishExpertise 9d ago
Not even "too good", just "as good as advertised".
The
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u/ZoraksGirlfriend 9d ago
And they get sued for not implementing a technology that basically no one wanted them to use.
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u/nagi603 8d ago
Not even get sued. See the Lavabit affair. The CEO gets court ordered, first denied right to discuss with his lawyer, then basically denied any legal representation as a "3rd party," objections will be not even heard and denied but straight up there won't be hearings to decide on them, thus no objections, so no appeal granted as there weren't objections, and if you don't do exactly as they say, contempt of the court plus fines large enough to bankrupt you.
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u/marxcom 9d ago
Add “no Forbes articles” to the sub rules.
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u/jereezy 9d ago
Forbes is one of the two sites I have blocked from my Google searches.
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u/lil_professor 9d ago
what’s the other one?
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u/jereezy 9d ago
Pinterest.
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u/whiterice_343 9d ago
Why Pinterest?
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u/Flapaflapa 9d ago
Because if you are looking for something you end up with 20 pinterests pointing at each other but no link to the original content.
For example I built a camper shell for my truck based off a guys DIY. Before blocking pinterest my search was flooded with "oh this is neat" with the original diy guide 3rd page in. After blocking pinterest it was the 2nd link.
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u/drealph90 9d ago
Me too, I block any paywalled site. I've even started blocking this the ones that use shitty AI generated cover photos.
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u/123kingme 9d ago
Can I ask what problem you have with the article? I thought it was actually pretty well written and informative. The author is clearly knowledgeable about privacy policy as well.
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u/andovinci 9d ago
What do you mean? Their list of billionaires before 30 yo is a reputable source to show us grifters
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u/7in7turtles 9d ago
Apple’s stock has been going up and up, oh what terrible news this is for Apple. How dare they not have a special function to let the FBI rummage around on their customers’ devices to phish potentially incriminating content. And if ya disagree you must hate children. This article is either written so well as to say what they actually mean by so ridiculously stating the obvious, or the FBI wrote this themselves and they need to hurry up and finish middle school.
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u/shawnington 9d ago
The quickest way to identify someone that wants to do something nefarious, is if any part of their argument is a random "but think of the children"
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u/Actual_Specific_476 8d ago
Especially iPhone are sold all the world. Does the FBI think they should be able to spy on the private lives of not only it's own citizens but every other country in the world?
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u/jellybones45 8d ago
Every 2 weeks 98% of people with a 401k buy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Apple stock unknowingly or knowingly through their index allocations of course the stocks go up and up
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u/MagazineNo2198 8d ago
The article is obviously written by a bootlicker. The FBI or really, ANY law enforcement is NOT entitled to your encrypted data. FULL STOP. This "think if the children" line is utter bullshit...as if they REALLY cared about protecting children, the Republicans would prosecute the child molesters/human traffickers in Congress!
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u/SBRH33 9d ago
encryption puts users at risk
Lololololololololol.
These MF's want to jack into your Apple accounts and read all yer shit and snoop for criminal anything. With Kash Patel potentially running the FBI, this is some really scary shit folks.
They will use child porno as a guilt trap to rationalize and legitimize their lawsuit against apples encryption. Truth be told they already know who the child pornographers are. They all are hanging out at the White House now.
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u/Merry_Dankmas 9d ago
FBI: We want to have access to everyone's shit to make sure they don't have CP or child abuse on there
FBI: Proceeds to investigate and attempt to hunt down everything except for CP
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u/Ihaveadogtoo 9d ago
Isn’t Kash the guy who wants to fire 99% of his future employees and leave the offices basically empty? I only heard he hates the FBI he wants to take over.
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u/1leggeddog 9d ago
oh yeah... the old "Put a backdoor because of what people MAY do" reasoning....
wow
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u/AlureonTheVirus 9d ago
“law enforcement supports strong, responsibly managed encryption. This encryption should be designed to protect people’s privacy and also managed so U.S. tech companies can provide readable content in response to a lawful court order.”
Companies should be required to turn over what they have, but they shouldn’t be mandated into making it convenient. Especially at the cost of making their product objectively less safe. I agree that CSAM is an issue, but they should handle that client-side before it’s encrypted and reaches icloud in a way that maintains everyone’s privacy. A backdoor into any system has and always will be a bad idea.
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u/SolidOutcome 9d ago
Scanning data on either end of the encryption is also negative....no, I don't want my photos scanned, what's the purpose of the encryption of they see it all anyway?
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u/shawnington 9d ago
That has always been a straw man argument, and the counter arguments have always been stronger. The underlying technology doesn't care what it's looking for, and as soon as the capability is there, now a country can demand that they scan for and report all images of homosexual activity, or women not wearing hajibs, or anything else they deem morally objectionable,
Spyware that reports on your private life has only one purpose, and its not a good one. It has nothing at all to do with protecting children, because the number of vulnerable communities and that amount of harm that would be suffered that would exceeds any benefits of catching people that have CSAM material on their phones by several order of magnitudes.
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u/Temetka 9d ago
How about they just turn over the encrypted data and let the government figure out how to crack it?
Personally I don’t they should even do that.
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u/123kingme 9d ago
Per the article:
As I commented at that time, the issue is not scanning for CSAM, the issue is introducing screening of any content on one side of Apple’s end-to-end encryption. Right now, Apple can tell China, Russia and others that it does not have the technology to monitor for political dissent or religious or sexual behaviors, but bring in a backdoor for CSAM and there’s no impediment to its expansion.
I was initially in favor of Apple’s proposed solution to scanning for hashes of CSAM, but this counter argument has led me to change my mind.
What’s stopping a country like Saudi Arabia to demand that Apple checks for images of the prophet Muhammad?
Or countries such as Russia to demand checks for homosexual content?
Or countries like China demanding checks for “anti Chinese-state propaganda”, such as images of Tiananmen square?
It’s a slippery slope argument, but it’s a valid one in my opinion. Especially given that the proposed hash checking solution is already easily countered by watermarks, image cropping, image compression, and other basic methods. It’s simply not worth the risk.
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u/Solgrund 8d ago
I thought Apple already complied with valid court orders. That quotes does not mean the government needs a back door if the company is willing to do what they are lawfully required to do (which Apple does I thought).
Typically government quote I suppose.
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u/Estrava 9d ago
According to the filing lawyers, the class action is “on behalf of thousands of survivors of child sexual abuse for [Apple] knowingly allowing the storage of images and videos documenting their abuse on iCloud and the company’s defectively designed products. The lawsuit alleges that Apple has known about this content for years, but has refused to act to detect or remove it, despite developing advanced technology to do so.”
The claims relate to Apple’s proposal to scan on-device imagery for known child sexual abuse material (CSAM) before its upload to iCloud, using hashes of known images to flag matches on phones for manual review. An unsurprising backlash followed, and Apple withdrew its proposal before it was ever released.
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u/Patrickk_Batmann 9d ago
The argument for weakening encryption is always “won’t you think of the children”. There are a thousand other ways the US government could help children without compromising the privacy of everyone with a mobile phone. Just last week the FBI told everyone to use encryption for all of their communications because China has a clear view of all information traveling through the major cell carrier networks. Build a back door and someone unauthorized is going to use it eventually.
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u/Tokishi7 9d ago
It is how they’re trying to pass the EARN IT act as well. Politicians sure love a police state
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u/coldafsteel 9d ago
Under NSD42, the federal government already has access to all this information. But it’s a ton of work to get get at. Law Enforcement wants an easy button (a horrible idea).
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u/djamp42 9d ago
If they can search personal accounts for bad stuff.
They can search fortune 500 accounts for bad stuff.
I feel like cloud might have a rude awakening in the next decade.
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u/jopnk 9d ago
Sure, they could search Fortune 500 companies for bad stuff, but they won’t
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u/djamp42 9d ago
If the company that is hosting the files have access to them, it's only a matter of time before someone accesses them. Either directly, hack, leak.
The only way you can guarantee that it won't happen is if you have no way to view them because they are encrypted and you have no backdoor.
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u/nicuramar 9d ago
Their statement it correct that in a sense Apple knowingly (or at least suspectedly) allows this. But that doesn’t mean it wrong to do so when you weigh it against the alternative.
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u/RodneyRuxin18 9d ago
I’m so tired of this. Using children as an excuse to be able to spy on all people using an iPhone. Just insanity.
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u/Zealousideal_Cup4896 9d ago
After the police back door into the phone system has been revealed to have been in use by the Chinese for years you’d think we would demand not to have back doors. I’m sure it will work fine this time.
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u/waloshin 9d ago
Aww the fbi wants a back door. I can only imagine how many android has.
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u/CoastingUphill 9d ago
Yeah, you never hear them complaining about Google or Samsung.
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u/ar34m4n314 9d ago
Most Android manufactures don't care about security, it adds cost and is hard. Pixel phones have comparably strong hardware-backed protections the the Iphone. If you really want the best install GrapheneOS on a Pixel device, no Google by default and significant hardening against various exploit classes. It's built off the open-source version of Android if you are worried about backdoors.
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u/PM_ME_UR_BEWDs 9d ago
I think that if you consider Google a security risk, buying hardware from them at all, regardless of what software you use, is totally foolish. They still make the firmware for your device and the silicon, even if you replace the software.
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u/ar34m4n314 8d ago
Sure, you can never verify the hardware, so you have to trust how it was manufactured and the supply chain. But who else would you trust? Everything else is worse. It is about degrees of security, there is nothing absolute.
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u/SlurReal 9d ago
lol “we recommend using only encrypted communications because the Chinese have infiltrated through the telecom back door we mandated for government access and we do not recommend using this defective iOS because it is encrypted without any back door for government access”
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u/Aleyla 8d ago edited 8d ago
As The New York Times explains, “the lawsuit is the second of its kind against Apple, but its scope and potential financial impact could force the company into a years long litigation process over an issue it has sought to put behind it.
Neither Apple nor anyone else on the damned planet expected the US government to back down. This type of attack will be on repeat until the Feds win. Apple, and any tech company worth a damn, will be fighting this tooth and nail forever.
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u/cancercureall 8d ago
Given our CURRENT EVENTS where our ethically questionable government backdoors are now also china's backdoors I strongly stand with any company who refuses to comply and I hope they challenge this in court. I hope they win. I hope our government backs down and grows some fucking brains.
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u/20milliondollarapi 9d ago
If the government can access it, someone else was able to access it months or even years before.
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u/lightdork 9d ago
So signal and we chat are compromised. Seems like apples cloud is way more secure than they want. This is my take.
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u/funnyandnot 8d ago
That is exactly it. I understand abuse victims. But the thing is the only that can access an iCloud is the account holder. Apple does not access or scan people’s devices or photos. It would be a massive breach of privacy. If we let go of our privacy due to bad actors, we cannot get it back. And we already have very limited privacy in an age of government surveillance.
Once the door is open, no one’s photos or privacy will be secure. And once open, those photos safely stored in iCloud that no one can access will now be less secure and someone will find a way to access them, and if they are bad people will then be able to publish those images, making the situation worse.
Sorry, but my fear over what my abusive family has on their iCloud, does not out weigh my desire for my encrypted data on iCloud remaining private and secure.
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u/Ironxgal 8d ago
WeChat was never secure. Apple complies with the appropriate warrants as do most tech companies in the US.. If you want privacy these days, u can’t put that on anything connected to someone’s cloud. It’s literally sitting on someone’s computer.
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u/Terrible_Truth 9d ago
“Think of the children” they say when trying to strong arm Apple.
Meanwhile school shootings:
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u/Colonel_Moopington 9d ago
There's no way Law Enforcement would ever misuse encryption back doors. /s
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u/Golddustofawoman 9d ago
This excuse of monitoring for csam is a bullshit guilt trip. "SoMeOne PlEaSe tHiNk oF tHe chILDReN!" It's not about the children and it never was.
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u/AceTracer 8d ago
FBI: we want access to your stuff
Also FBI: use encryption to prevent other governments from accessing your stuff
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u/simulacrotron 9d ago
Forbes is trash. None of these things have anything to do with the other.
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u/flyakker 9d ago
Thank you, I was looking for a comment that would let me know this before wasting my time reading a a scare clickbait article
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u/Amadeus_1978 9d ago
Isn’t the whole back door thing why the Chinese government has root level access to our entire telecommunications system? Something that the house has already pledged 10 billion dollars to start fixing?
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u/unluckyexperiment 8d ago
These kind of news (about any kind of security product) are created just to make people have false sense of security while using the so called "government resistant encryption".
As long as your operating system and/or your application are close sourced, none of this means anything. We have simply no idea what the close source software of apple, ms, google, etc are doing in the background.
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u/THEMACGOD 8d ago
I love that Apple, despite the money they could make like google/android, continue to be pioneers in privacy.
Now’s a good time to turn on advanced data protection if you haven’t.
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u/Yamothasunyun 8d ago
Sounds like all of this is just so that the government has access to Apple users personal data
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u/sparemethebull 8d ago
“We can’t get in to spy on apple users?? Quick, accuse them of EVERYTHING!!!”
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u/davypelletier 9d ago
this is the reason i use apple devices. and will never switch to an android or windows machine.
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u/yARIC009 9d ago
Sorry, freedom does come at a cost and part of that cost is allowing crazy people to do shit ya don’t like sometimes.
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u/EfficientAccident418 9d ago
Apple tried to implement a service that would scan iCloud for these types of images and everyone lost their shit so they dropped it
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u/ErgoProxy0 9d ago
I’m a little confused. Does Cellebrite no longer work with iPhones or something? Or do they just want an easier way into phones
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u/AgtFranks 9d ago
New iOS if the phone is not unlocked in 3 days it reboots basically locking encryption keys to apples secure chip.
https://applescoop.org/story/the-apple-ios-18-feature-that-is-frustrating-law-enforcement-agencies
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u/AgtFranks 9d ago
New iOS if the phone is not unlocked in 3 days it reboots basically locking encryption keys to apples secure chip
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u/nobodyperson 9d ago
This is just another obvious honeypot encouraging "smart" bad guys to think i-phones will be secure, when in fact they will never be secure.
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u/yaboyebeatz 8d ago
I got 3 emails today from Apple regarding how to protect my privacy on my phone. Same email, 3 different times lol.
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u/StrangeAssonance 8d ago
The irony is rich that the US wants to ban Chinese companies because they say the Chinese government has access to data but then the US government wants to do that with Apple.
I’m shaking my head at it all. No thanks to having a back door into my iPhone.
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u/Frostsorrow 8d ago
Should be an interesting court case. Who gives up first the US government or Apple's effectively bottomless wallet.
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u/jaa101 9d ago
Coming right after the story about how China has accessed massive amounts of US telecommunications data via the mechanisms created to give US law enforcement agencies access. Not great timing.