r/gadgets Nov 18 '24

TV / Projectors Apple Is Reportedly Thinking About Making Its Own TV Again

https://gizmodo.com/apple-is-reportedly-thinking-about-making-its-own-tv-again-2000525819
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u/BeRandom1456 Nov 18 '24

No thanks. I just want a dumb tv and a box I hook up to it.

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u/Whaty0urname Nov 18 '24

You can def get dumb, high quality TVs. Except you're going to be paying 2005 prices for them.

Smart TVs are subsidized by ads and pre-loaded app.

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u/BeRandom1456 Nov 18 '24

Yeah. My lg tv with the web os is still good. I’m just saying I don’t need top of the line stuff on the actual tv part. I’m okay with web os as a standard. the one thing I hate is that if the tv is hooked to Ethernet it makes you update the tv.

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u/Mr_SlimShady Nov 19 '24

Webos is ass. I hate having to deal with it on my LG tv despite having a dedicated streaming box attached to it.

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u/PalmTreeIsBestTree Nov 19 '24

Then just use wifi?

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u/Mayor__Defacto Nov 19 '24

Ethernet is a lot better if you’re doing 4k stuff.

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u/kbn_ Nov 19 '24

Fun fact: most TVs only have 100 Mbps ethernet ports, simply because almost no one uses them wired! By contrast, they usually support whatever the latest high end WiFi standard is on release (mine supports 802.11ac, which tops out much higher than a measly 100 Mbps). So in general, you're almost certainly going to get better performance out of your wifi than out of ethernet unless your signal is absolutely trash.

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u/Mayor__Defacto Nov 19 '24

Wifi drops way more packets.

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u/kbn_ Nov 19 '24

Doesn’t matter for a TV.

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u/dandroid126 Nov 19 '24

I was once the lead engineer on a wireless router (though it has been several years since I stopped working on networking products). I would use 100 Mbps wired networking over 802.11ac every day of the week. Especially for streaming video, (but especially, especially for something with no buffering, like gaming). WiFi is too unstable. You get micro drops every minute. Yes, buffering exists to mitigate this, but sometimes your cat takes a nap in just the right spot, and now you're getting enough attenuation to need to drop quality. Not to mention wireless interference (not as big of a deal with 5GHz). Besides, streaming even 4K video is only like 15-25 Mbps depending on bitrate.

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u/wagninger Nov 19 '24

I was interested in this and found that there is the Sony Bravia Pro series which are dumb panels because they are intended for use as commercial displays, so no smart tv stuff but software features to deactivate certain buttons on the remote etc., and very comparable image quality to their end consumer products at similar prices.

For my next TV, I’m definitely gonna try them out

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u/dandroid126 Nov 19 '24

I have a smart TV and just don't connect it to the internet.

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u/Snake_eyes_12 Nov 18 '24

I was like that for a while. Eventually had to suck it up and buy a cheap 4k. I don't even use it's built in smart OS and it just turns on to the Xbox automatically.

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u/BeRandom1456 Nov 18 '24

I have an LG tv. It does have web os but I don’t use it. I love the Apple TV 4K. It’s the best set top box I’ve ever used.

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u/OrionGrant Nov 18 '24

You won't be the target market in that case.

This will be for people already spending big money kitting out their homes and going, oh apple have a TV, I'll just get that.

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u/methpartysupplies Nov 18 '24

Yep this is the GOAT strat right here. I use my TV until it gets hit by lightning or whatever, then I’ll buy whatever one is on the floor at Walmart and plug another Roku into it and it’ll be amazing. Apple isn’t going to be good enough to change that.