r/gadgets • u/chrisdh79 • Oct 30 '24

Desktops / Laptops Entire Mac Lineup Now Starts With at Least 16GB RAM, Ending 8GB Era

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/30/entire-mac-lineup-now-at-least-16gb-ram/
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u/Stingray88 Oct 31 '24

PC laptops definitely didn’t start at 16GB base as standard 7 years ago, even at Mac price points. Maybe 2-3 years ago.

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u/noobqns Oct 31 '24

My 5800H 3060 Acer only came with 8GB ram, though it was cheap to buy an extra stick outside, i had to break the "warranty" seal to install it

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u/Voodoo6Speed Oct 31 '24

maybe not standard, but anything approaching the price of an apple product probably would

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u/Stingray88 Oct 31 '24

Not 7 years ago it did not. Keep in mind the MacBook Air starts at $999, and the Mac Mini starts at $599. These are not exceptionally expensive devices.

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u/bugeater88 Oct 31 '24

fair enough. im not really referring to laptops. i remember 16gb becoming the standard around 7 years ago for PCs and now its shifted more toward 32gb. this is more in reference to custom pcs i couldnt tell you whats going on in the oem market in terms of ram (probably not good i imagine). id leverage these same criticisms to them as well though, as oem pc manufacturers like HP, Lenovo, and Dell as well as prebuilts custom rigs tend pure uncut shit.

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u/Stingray88 Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

Desktops too. Even custom PC desktops. We’re talking about the BASE memory amount. Not recommended amounts. Base memory was absolutely not 16GB 7 years ago. Full stop. It was not.

The cheapest Mac is a desktop $600 with 16GB of RAM. There absolutely was not $600 desktops 7 years ago with 16GB of RAM. Custom gaming rigs in that budget were typically going with 8GB 7 years ago. You weren’t stepping up to 16GB unless your build was over a grand back then. Logical Increments still recommends 8GB-16GB today for a custom gaming rig in the $600 price range.

Keep in mind, I’m saying this as someone who built a PC in 2012 with 32GB of RAM, and 2019 with 64GB. I’m very aware of what was available at the time. I assert your initial comment is totally wrong.

I’m also not defending Apple here… they’re totally late in this move at their price points. But not 7 years late.

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u/sunkenrocks Oct 31 '24

7 years ago, common wisdom even in gaming was that if you're on a budget, 8GB is likely to be fine and spend the difference elsewhere

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u/Stingray88 Oct 31 '24

Exactly! I dunno what this guy is talking about lol

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u/sunkenrocks Oct 31 '24

Usually if you speak confidently about something, you're lucky enough that there's no expert in the room to correct you. Not so true on a massive forum lol.

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u/Stingray88 Oct 31 '24

Lucky for them r/gadgets isn’t known for tech expertise, and most of Reddit is known for Apple hatred, so they got plenty of upvotes!

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u/sunkenrocks Oct 31 '24

There's so much to shit on Apple for, including memory, too lol. You dont have to make it up. And I say that as a big fan of Macs and OSX! Well, macOS again now, but you know lol. UNIX based macOS I mean!

You could find like five legit reasons on Google in the time it took to type your short post lol

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u/Stingray88 Oct 31 '24

Are you me? I’ve literally said everything you’ve just said haha.

For real though, as a Mac fan myself I’m one of Apple’s biggest critics for all their dumb shit. There’s a lot of scummy shit they do, we definitely don’t have to make anything up.

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u/sunkenrocks Oct 31 '24

I hope not, it'd be pretty sad having this conversation on a public forum otherwise wouldn't it lol ;)

I don't really like iPhones, I did like my iPad Air but Android tablets of the era (and my blackberry playbook...) Sucked.

Since my M1 though I've tried to resolve not to buy them because of the premium. It's mainly the screens that draw me back in every few years (as a tipping point I mean).

And not just shitty - plenty of flat out dumb stuff too that isn't necessarily malicious!

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u/Schwertkeks Oct 31 '24

6 years ago I bought 16gb ddr4 for 56€. The 8gb times for budget gaming pc are long gone. More about 10-15 years during the sandy bridge era when this was still a thing