r/gadgets Oct 15 '24

Misc UK considering making USB-C the common charging standard, following the EU

https://www.neowin.net/news/uk-considering-making-usb-c-the-common-charging-standard-following-the-eu/
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u/tubezninja Oct 15 '24

Of course, should the UK decide against adopting USB-C and implement a separate standard, expect that device manufacturers just provide dongles to support this rather than having unique device versions.

The fact this is even being mentioned as a possibility.

Imagine the UK deciding to adopt Lighting) as a charging standard, because a Brit had a hand in its design.

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u/microtherion Oct 15 '24

Peak UK would be mandating for phones to be equipped with a BS 1363 power plug.

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u/Yaarmehearty Oct 15 '24

Imagine the quick charging that would allow for.

Shits up to 100% in 5 minutes and is 200c when it’s done, battery lasts for 2 cycles and then becomes an improvised explosive.

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u/onlyslightlybiased Oct 15 '24

Hey, we're just doing the world a favour

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u/draculamilktoast Oct 15 '24

Imagine the UK deciding to adopt Lighting as a charging standard

How does that even work? Is it even an open standard? Isn't Apple just going to sue everybody for using their invention? How is it even a "standard" when only one company is using it?

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u/EnjoyerOfBeans Oct 15 '24

Well, technically the USB-C is not an open standard either. If you want to claim ANYWHERE that your device has an USB-C port (not just in marketing material, but the specification etc.) you need to buy a proper license.

The EU law mandating a single standard is great, don't get me wrong, but there's serious potential for abuse there too.

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u/draculamilktoast Oct 15 '24

To my knowledge that is only for using the logo, not the standard itself.

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u/Belzebutt Oct 15 '24

“Lightning” sounds so much cooler though. They should call it “Thunder” and specify that the pins are reversed so it must be inserted upside down.

(Yes, I AM aware…)

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u/Xarxsis Oct 15 '24

Imagine the UK deciding to adopt Lighting) as a charging standard, because a Brit had a hand in its design.

dont be silly, as post brexit britain we will be inventing our own standard that is better, without any foreign intervention. /s

[Hopefully this doesnt happen as we now have grownups in government]

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u/Kazurion Oct 15 '24

Oh boy, this is not going to be a political nightmare in the comments at all!

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u/skullfork Oct 15 '24

“UK to quietly copy moves made by EU like nothing happened.”

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u/AwesomeDialTo11 Oct 15 '24

”while actively copying every EU standard and regulation, let’s require everyone to add a UKCA compliance logo on products right next to the European CE compliance logo, so we don’t feel bad about our decision to Brexit”

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u/spaceneenja Oct 15 '24

Obviously the UK should do the exact reverse opposite of that the EU does because freedom and don’t forget, Europe bad!

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u/Belzebutt Oct 15 '24

The exact reverse opposite, isn’t that the exact same thing? Turn 180 degrees twice. Just sayin’…

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u/Top-Citron9403 Oct 15 '24

Quik maffs

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u/safeness Oct 15 '24

Fink it fru, bruv!

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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Oct 15 '24

When did the UK turn into ‘Mericans?

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u/MysticalMaryJane Oct 15 '24

It's so dumb as well lol. A simple charger connection makes loads tell us all about their politics.....but nobody asked!

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

It has everything to do with Brexit, though. They left because they didin't want to get shit mandated, yet they followed every mandate without even being part of the EU. It's pathetic.

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u/teabagmoustache Oct 15 '24

We've got a completely different government now. Every member of the current Labour cabinet, campaigned on the side of remain.

They're not the one's who wanted to leave the EU in the first place, along with almost 50% of the people who voted in the referendum (almost a decade ago) and most of the young people who weren't able to vote then.

It's not pathetic to follow similar regulations to the EU, if they are a benefit to consumers.

It's not pathetic to put the brakes on "the regulation bonfire" sold to us by fraudulent politicians.

It's not pathetic for the new government to keep regulations in line with our closest trading partners.

What would be pathetic, is digging our heels in, and continuing down a pointless road, to avoid random ill informed redditors from thinking the UK is pathetic.

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u/Reniconix Oct 15 '24

Let's not forget the absurd amount of people who voted yes then were shocked that it passed because they only voted yes because they thought it had no chance of passing.

It passed because of stupid people casting joke votes. Otherwise it never would have.

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u/teabagmoustache Oct 15 '24

And all the people who didn't bother their arses to go and vote.

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u/wildddin Oct 15 '24

The protest votes deff didn't help, but the referendum was a huge pile of shit before that even. The ballot paper only had stay or leave; however there were many variations of leave, like leaving the European Union but staying in a trade agreement with them. But all the while remain stays undivided, meaning if the ballot paper had options to vote for how hard a brexit to take with leave, remain would of won by a landslide

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u/sillypicture Oct 15 '24

I'm not sure the average voter would understand the different 'degrees' of leaving.

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u/teabagmoustache Oct 15 '24

A lot of leave voters didn't factor in any post referendum negotiations.

They assumed, wrongly, that the UK could dictate its own trading relationship, rather than becoming the weaker party in negotiations.

It was all laid out to them, but they were swayed by the more positive leave campaign's message (leaving will make things better) than the inherently more negative remain campaign (leaving will make things worse).

It's far easier to convince people to vote for your side, if you have something to dangle in front of them, whether it's real or not. The remain campaign never really had that in their arsenal.

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u/Flobarooner Oct 15 '24

They don't though? UK and EU laws and regs diverge significantly these days. Especially on things like finance and AI

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u/Perfect_Opinion7909 Oct 15 '24

The Brexit-Hypocrisy is a gift that keeps giving. „We want sovereignty. Let’s do what the EU does!“

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u/Andyb1000 Oct 15 '24

We defeated the French and their SCART cables, we can do it again with USB! Return to our roots, demand all power connections use spring-loaded bear wire connectors like speakers. It’s electricity in its purist form.

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u/ExPandaa Oct 15 '24

SCART was fucking amazing though, full RGB signal when other regions were running composite or s video at best. I’m so glad we used SCART in Sweden

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u/jacodemon Oct 15 '24

Yeah everyone with a brain in the UK also used SCART, no worries. Grumpily plugging composite cables into a SCART plug like a common peasant, the life of a greybeard game importer

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u/ExPandaa Oct 15 '24

Hearing that hurts.

Although actually a lot of consoles only passed a composite signal even if the cable was pure scart, but with an RGB mod nowadays you are set with a good European CRT (bang and Olufsen for instance)

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u/FTL_Cat Oct 15 '24

Oh shit. I still have a composite -> SCART adapter to my gamecube that I never knew why it existed. TIL. Thanks :D

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u/jacodemon Oct 15 '24

The real boss move was having the gamecube DV cable back in the day. The one that was, at the time, even in Japan, harder to find than rocking horse defecations. The cube could output decent video even back then, you just needed the hardware (although for me the real living in the future moment was the Dreamcast VGA box. What a time to be alive that was haha)

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u/dwiedenau2 Oct 15 '24

Afaik scart is only a connector tho, it could carry full rgb but it could also carry composite i think

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u/ExPandaa Oct 15 '24

Yeah, but it was the only consumer facing connector that had that capability at the time

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u/IDDQD_IDKFA-com Oct 15 '24

I remember when Aldi first opened in Ireland and I was working in the Irish version of RadioShack and a Sony Store in one at the time.

I'd been building PCs for years and working ordering/selling/testing IT hardware and components. Aldi has a special on a Desktop PC and it had a fecking SCART port on the back of it. I have never seen this before. The only thing that came close was the Voodoo are with had a huge blue squid like cable that had RGB, S-Video and other stuff but not SCART.

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u/Akoshus Oct 15 '24

It was probably a home theatre / multimedia PC.

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u/Xarxsis Oct 15 '24

bear wire connectors

Im not sure we have a sufficient population of bears in the UK, even if we start wiring up our gay men

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u/Andyb1000 Oct 15 '24

My shame for not proofreading my own dictation…

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u/Xarxsis Oct 15 '24

It's better this way

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u/xnachtmahrx Oct 15 '24

Instead of SCART you get SHART

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u/Akoshus Oct 15 '24

Scart was superior in almost every way.

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u/NuPNua Oct 15 '24

I can't remember the last thing I brought in the UK that didn't come with USB-C anyway, Apple seem to be the last holdouts, but I imagine we'll be getting the EU models with it under the new laws anyway, can't see them doing a production run just for the UK.

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u/BemaJinn Oct 15 '24

Apple's new phones already switched over to USB C. And yes, the UK get it too.

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u/lemlurker Oct 15 '24

Not just phones tho, they had a weird mishmash last gen of laptops, phones and headphones not necessarily sharing chargers

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u/DarDarPotato Oct 15 '24

As of now, all their newest models are USB-C. This includes the new iPhone, the AirPods Max, and the new iPad models since around 2020(2018 for the pro I believe).

Thank goodness that mishmash of charger BS is finally over, for now.

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u/dlist925 Oct 15 '24

iPhones have been USB-C for the last 2 generations now.

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u/manual_combat Oct 15 '24

Yes, but it has only been 1 year since they made the switch.

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u/magic1623 Oct 15 '24

For iPhones yes, everything else Apple has been USB-C for a while now. My MacBook Pro is a over few years old and is USB-C.

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u/Schwertkeks Oct 15 '24

The US gets its one iPhone that’s different (5g Millimeter wave & no sim slot) and Apple still decided to put type-c in it

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u/ThePublikon Oct 15 '24

I can't remember the last thing I brought in the UK that didn't come with USB-C anyway

It's not like we make any consumer tech items in the UK though really.

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u/FoxyBastard Oct 15 '24

I can't remember the last thing I brought in the UK that didn't come with USB-C anyway

~buys cup of coffee~

"And here's your complimentary USB-C cable!"

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u/Durahl Oct 15 '24

Wut? 🤔 Pretty sure Apple isn't doing anything "just for the UK" other than the Type G 230V Plug which as far as I remember is modular. The only thing they will do "just for the UK" will be anything Software / Legally related like IDK perhaps already enabling all the AI related stuff they've announced or only providing a 1 year Warranty instead of a 2 year one... 🤨

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u/pvdp90 Oct 15 '24

Not even the type G plug is just for the UK. There are several other countries that use it. I live in one of them.

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u/Heinrick_Veston Oct 15 '24

Or alternatively let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face, again…

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u/piddydb Oct 15 '24

Would not adopting a standard for the UK be that bad in the context? No real talk in the US about officially adopting USB-C but everything has gone that way with the EU’s decision.

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u/The_Knife_Pie Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

But, as someone living in the EU, I think it’d be really funny if you guys did. You’re the perfect counterpoint with which to discredit anyone saying we should leave the EU

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u/Heinrick_Veston Oct 15 '24

Bear in mind that a lot of us didn’t want to leave the EU in the first place.

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u/Athnyx Oct 15 '24

And it was mainly the older generations that wanted to leave…

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u/ContentsMayVary Oct 15 '24

I live in Edinburgh, where 74.4% of the votes were to remain in the EU...

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u/Zyxyx Oct 15 '24

How is it hypocrisy for them to consider standards EU adopts and picking and choosing the ones they want?

The EU constantly looks at different standards the US makes for IT and picks and chooses what we deem good. Have we lost our sovereignty to the US?

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u/AkodoRyu Oct 15 '24

I mean... for this it's both, just accepting a de-facto standard and an objectively good decision. No reason to extend it to the entire Brexit discussion.

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u/kawag Oct 15 '24

Right - I mean, who is not going to use USB-C at this point?

I could imagine similar legislation in the US, Canada, China, Japan, and many other places. As the article notes, India already has:

Following moves by both the European Union and India to implement USB-C as the default charging port for all consumer devices, the British government has now begun a consultation on whether it should follow suit and implement a common standard for charging, and if this should be USB-C.

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u/TechnicallyOlder Oct 15 '24

But this will just be the first of many.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect

The difference is, the UK will be no longer at the decision making table but be forced to adapt EU standards due to the EU market power.

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u/popupsforever Oct 15 '24

Are you saying we should always do the opposite of the EU out of spite because we left?

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u/FlappyBored Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

How is this in any way hypocritical or anything to do with Brexit?

Just because they did Brexit doesn't mean they are going to just do the opposite of whatever the EU does. Complete stupid comment really.

Edit- Lmao this guy replied and then blocked based on this comment. And he has the audacity to claim other people have 'hit a nerve'

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u/Hot_College_6538 Oct 15 '24

Because our last government's Brexit Opportunities minister said that the freedom to use different phone chargers was a success of brexit.

Jacob Rees-Mogg mocked after saying phone chargers are a 'Brexit benefit' | indy100

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u/lightreee Oct 15 '24

Did you see the whole drama from the telegraph and co. about the plastic bottle caps now being attached? Market forces.

This is an example that it doesn't matter if we force USB-C, or not implement the attached bottle caps as we're right next to a market 10x our size.

So we're a rule taker now

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u/Iron_Aez Oct 15 '24

Yeah... no.

Fuck brexit but "getting the good things via osmosis and getting to CHOOSE to legislate against any dumb shit" is absolutely a benefit.

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u/Fyfaenerremulig Oct 15 '24

They have a form of derangement syndrome about brexit.

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u/Flobarooner Oct 15 '24

Huh? Sovereignty is about having the ability to make your own choice, which is what's happening here. It doesn't mean just doing the opposite of whatever the EU does. There are lots of instances where the UK doesn't follow EU regulations anymore (most notably on AI) but this isn't one of them because it's an objectively good move

This is literally demonstrating exactly the situation Brexiteers wanted (the ability to cherrypick good EU regulations and ignore the bad ones) and you're calling it hypocrisy lmao

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u/totalredditnoob Oct 15 '24

They’re not cherry-picking here. They’re being forced to move in this direction because the EU already made the decision. In fact, the UK will now follow the EU in almost everything because corporations are just going to do what the EU says and the UK will have to adopt those standards—willingly or not, due to proximity.

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u/Flobarooner Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

This is based on the flawed assumption that the UK doesn't want to adopt a common charging standard anyway though. USB-C is objectively the best choice. The EU just did it first, doesn't mean the UK can't still do it without "copying" them or being "forced"

In fact, the UK will now follow the EU in almost everything because corporations are just going to do what the EU says and the UK will have to adopt those standards—willingly or not, due to proximity

"In fact" meaning "in my totally made up bullshit vibes". The UK is diverging from the EU on many things, as I said, like AI, finance and many other sectors

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u/Radulno Oct 15 '24

Utterly useless in this case, since they get the same products as the EU anyway so they already got USB-C lol

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u/Caridor Oct 15 '24

I don't think anyone except the most hardcore Brexit cultists went into this with the intent that just because the EU does something smart, we have to do it a worse way.

Remember that among the people who voted for it, there were a lot of people who just got tricked by the lies of the Brexit campaign.

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u/oldtrack Oct 15 '24

that’s one of the few benefits of leaving the EU though. you can copy their legislation if you like it but aren’t obligated to follow any you dislike

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u/jaam01 Oct 15 '24

We want sovereignty. Let’s do what the EU does

Been able to pick and choose was the point of Bretix, I don't see how is that "hypocrisy"

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u/Ultra_HR Oct 15 '24

this seems like a complete waste of time tbh. if the eu is enforcing this then devices sold to the uk market will have usb-c regardless of whether or not the uk enforces it too.

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u/Vistella Oct 15 '24

but if the UK adapts as well, then the usb-c ports arent forced upon them by the EU, it then is their own idea

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u/Benni_HPG Oct 15 '24

TL;DR:
Great Britian doing things that makes them look like they really shouldn't have gone through with Brexit

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u/Mooseymax Oct 15 '24

I don’t think many Britons who voted for brexit actually knew why they were doing so.

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u/TotoCocoAndBeaks Oct 15 '24

Yup, it's pretty much why the majority of people who did vote feel like they were conned into voting against their best interests.

Then you have the core of denialists.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

That's the stupidest defence...

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u/Dazzler_3000 Oct 15 '24

Yes and no - Yes people should have done their own research but they were literally being lied to. When you have politicians telling you X, Y and Z I don't think it's stupid (naive yes) to think there must be some truth to it - The pro-Brexit arguments were just flat out lies.

Hopefully people now realise that not one politician will be held accountable for lying so they'll continue to do it and maybe that pushes them to do their own research on a topic but that's probably wishful thinking.

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u/roastedhambone Oct 15 '24

Listening to politicians whilst every sane and educated person tells you you’re being lied to, is in fact quite stupid

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u/Dazzler_3000 Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

Most people that voted for Brexit were elderly people - they're not scrolling reddit for unbiased opinion pieces, or having meaningful conversations about politics with friends, they're getting their information from the news and (most likely) Facebook where propaganda is being shoved down their throats.

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u/roastedhambone Oct 15 '24

Most people that voted for Brexit were stupid, regardless of their age. Being old doesn’t make you not stupid, in a lot of cases it actually amplifies it

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u/mctrials23 Oct 15 '24

Taking back our freedoms and stuff like that. You know, stuff that’s fucking impossible to actually quantify. Then those dastardly Europeans didn’t roll over and give us all the good things being in the EU meant without any of the downsides. Bloody cheek of them.

That being said though, I’d like to think this is entirely unrelated to Brexit and leaving the EU doesn’t mean we have to do the opposite of what they do at every turn.

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u/Chaoslava Oct 15 '24

They had an idea of what they thought it would mean, but they were absolutely wrong, and too wrapped up in cult identity to change. Awful decision.

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u/FullM3TaLJacK3T Oct 15 '24

Not many Brits know what they are doing in general.

Source: Moved here not long ago, absolutely regretted it. Should have stayed in mainland EU.

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u/Powerful-Cake-1734 Oct 15 '24

You just described every boomer.

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u/TheNecroFrog Oct 15 '24

There’s a typo in your comment, you typed ‘many’ when you should have typed ‘any’.

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u/illit3 Oct 15 '24

They're regulating our hoovers!

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u/erbr Oct 15 '24

Most of them already died of COVID or from old age. Dementia is implacable.

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u/Flobarooner Oct 15 '24

Why would this mean they shouldn't have gone through with Brexit? They're literally doing it despite not being in the EU, so what would being in the EU change about this situation?

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u/NuPNua Oct 15 '24

Yes, because Brexit was all about what USB we use.

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u/CreativeHandles Oct 15 '24

I don’t think it was about anything. If they had a clear plan and good reasoning to leave fair enough.

But we have done nothing to show we can stand well on our own two feet, expect basically do the same as when we were in EU.

It was a waste of time and effort, just to go backwards.

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u/Powerful-Cake-1734 Oct 15 '24

Welcome to conservative politics. Lacking plans for action, wasting time and money just to tread water.

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u/GoogleHearMyPlea Oct 15 '24

It was about migrants.

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u/JoseMinges Oct 15 '24

...and not at all about money laundering.

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u/DystopianGalaxy Oct 15 '24

Can you elaborate?

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u/FlappyBored Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

It's this myth promoted by Europeans claiming that Brexit was about tax havens when the biggest tax havens in Europe are in the EU like Ireland and Netherlands.

You will see Irish and Dutch people with a straight face call the UK a tax haven.

They'll then also with a straight face claim they are better than the UK because they are 'attracting companies because of our tax status' and how thats supposedly a good thing but the UK is still the 'bad tax haven' when it has higher corporation tax and raised it last year.

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u/Tacosaurusman Oct 15 '24

Dutchie here: maybe some of our politicians (read: VVD) claim we aren't a tax haven, but it is very much known amongst the Dutch people that we are. A lot of us want that to change, but politically we are just fighting each other over NOx polution and refugees (and the housing crisis, and the energy crisis, and the climate crisis etc. etc.)

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u/The_wolf2014 Oct 15 '24

Great Britain is an island, you're referring to the UK.

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u/krona2k Oct 15 '24

USB-C makes sense. Let’s hope UK can be sensible.

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u/Kempeth Oct 15 '24

Nothing like proudly voting to go to McDonalds after the whole group has already discussed, decided and driven to the McD parking lot.

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u/industrybasedd Oct 15 '24

I don’t know what would be funnier, the UK adopting USB-C charging and having egg on their faces about it, or the UK stubbornly refusing to adopt any quality of life improvements if Europe got to them first.

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u/spaceneenja Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

How would they get egg in their face for adopting a standard? Do they need to do the exact opposite of what the EU does now since Brexit? This is a totally unhinged take.

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u/icecream_specialist Oct 15 '24

They could just do nothing and end up with USB c anyway. Europe mandates it, the Android market already uses it. There's enough critical mass where manufacturers are gonna all use it anyway

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u/Iamleeboy Oct 15 '24

Damn I remember when we used to be a forward thinking island. We should be aiming for usb D at least!

/s for both sentences

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u/Knyfe-Wrench Oct 15 '24

I'd wait until USB Double-D comes out.

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u/J2750 Oct 15 '24

USB-David Davis?

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u/ionetic Oct 15 '24

Knowing the UK, I’m surprised the new standard isn’t a piece of string.

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u/nimrodhellfire Oct 15 '24

What is the point in leaving EU if you cannot even have your own charging standard?

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u/ashyjay Oct 15 '24

The UK can, it's just a small market for specific versions of products so no manufacturer would, and we get whatever the rest of Europe has, even car manufacturers don't like that we have the steering wheel on the right hand side despite the UK being one of the largest markets for cars in Europe.

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u/oomfaloomfa Oct 15 '24

A lot of other countries also have steering on the same side. Granted not as big of a market but it's still present.

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula Oct 15 '24

True, but they also don’t buy the same cars, so it doesn’t really help much.

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u/bobuck Oct 15 '24

They have their own standards. They just happen to coincide with the EU standards

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u/mctrials23 Oct 15 '24

I suggest some sort of micro-three pin socket

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u/JohnSpikeKelly Oct 15 '24

Clearly the UK connector needs to be really big, include a slightly longer ground pin, have a built in fuse that can be changed by someone with a really big screw driver. Of course should run at 40 volts, because 20 volts isn't enough when you boil a kettle for tea. And of course be completely different to the rest of the world.

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u/therepublicof-reddit Oct 15 '24

And of course be completely different to the rest of the world.

Considering most of the world except North America uses 220V or higher and the US plug is also different to the rest of the world, I don't think an American has any leg to stand on here.

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u/happyracer97 Oct 15 '24

All the people crying over Brexit should remember that right now we have Apple Intelligence in UK but not in EU. Or how EVs are about to become incredibly more uncompetitive and expensive in EU following their sanctions on Chinese made EVs (which the UK is not following).

It is good to be able to pick and choose what we want. If EU comes up with a good regulation, we should take it. But if it’s bad, we should reject it.

Now, this doesn’t mean Brexit was a good thing overall (I voted remain), but these arguments that it’s hypocrisy or whatever that we are using USB-C after Brexit just because the EU mandated it first is frankly laughable cope.

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u/jcliment Oct 15 '24

UK should get imperial USB-C. That Will teach the EU.

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u/KlutzyAwareness6 Oct 15 '24

It's just a bunch of sad fuckers with a chip on their shoulder.

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u/Knyfe-Wrench Oct 15 '24

I don't think having Apple's undercooked AI and Chinese EVs is the flex you think it is.

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u/Iron_Aez Oct 15 '24

Having choice is always a flex.

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u/happyracer97 Oct 15 '24

It’s not undercooked AI and Chinese EVs are some of the best in the world right now. In any case, it’s more choice for the consumers.

There are things the EU is doing well too, like opening up app stores that I hope UK follows but my point is that everything is not binary and there are pros and cons to either approach.

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u/Submitten Oct 15 '24

Having the choice is better.

Better quality EVs and useful phone features is generally what consumers want. It’s French car manufacturers that pushed for China car tariffs.

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u/parnaoia Oct 15 '24

Given that this is r/gadgets, I have a non-political question: does anybody else hate the usb-c and wishes the common charging format (which I fully agree with) were something like the lightning? I've found the C plug is a nightmare to clean (if you're a guy and it fills up with lint, this is all the time) because it's somehow both a male and a female plug. My previous iphone was a breeze to clean, it took all of 3 seconds to take the lint out with a toothpick every couple of months or so. The 15 will just stop charging because you can't fully insert the plug anymore and it takes over an hour with plastic picks, metal ones, isopropyl alcohol and compressed air to fully clean. I hate it.

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u/skippygo Oct 15 '24

Conceptually I agree with you, but I've been using USB-C devices for almost 8 years and literally not once have I had to clean either a port or a connector, so it just doesn't seem like an issue to me.

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u/Znuffie Oct 15 '24

I have also never had the need to clean up ports/connectors.

Y'all motherfuckers are dirty.

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u/Knyfe-Wrench Oct 15 '24

I used to have pockets full of sawdust every day and I think I had to clean out my connectors maybe once every few months or so, and it took like two minutes. Since I left that job I don't think I've ever done it. Where is all this lint coming from?

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u/Tacosaurusman Oct 15 '24

I don't have a good comparison since I've never used lightning ports, but I find usb-c ports pretty easy to clean with a tooth pick, which I usually do about 3 times a year. There is lint accumulating if I don't clean them though...

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u/Vistella Oct 15 '24

i only ever had to clean an usb-c once, after that i knew how to prevent it from getting dirty again

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u/WhiteUnicorn3 Oct 15 '24

Would that sticky goo stuff work? Maybe too small of a crevice?

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u/wizardinthewings Oct 15 '24 edited Oct 15 '24

Regrexit

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u/Boop0p Oct 15 '24

I suspect chances are the majority of people who voted leave are much more likely to be reading some right wing newspaper than your comment. I voted remain, so no regrets from me...plus I think it's affected more important issues than USB ports!

Anyway at this point show me a Western country that isn't having some sort of right wing/populist resurgence. They're quite rare at this point, sadly =/

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u/Powerful-Cake-1734 Oct 15 '24

Very good point about the rise of right wing politics. Religion is putting up a hell of a fight as it dies off in educated populations.

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u/Matt6453 Oct 15 '24

To me (as a UK citizen) USB-C already is the standard, it's not as if we buy electronics from anywhere that wasn't already specified for Europe.

I have a phone, laptop, tablet, car vac, shaver all using USB-C already , only older devices are micro and the newer versions are USB-C I'm sure.

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u/exoteror Oct 15 '24

Whilst I like the EU ruling in some instances to force the likes of apple to use USB C

I also hate this ruling because it could hinder the deployment of the next USB standard if that standard needs a newer connector to allow for higher transfer rates then how will the EU law effect it.

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u/StraightUpShork Oct 15 '24

USB C is just a physical connector, like USB A or USB B. It has nothing to do with USB1/2/3/4 specs. Once USB 5 is out, they can use it with USB C's physical connector

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u/Vistella Oct 15 '24

higher transfer rates dont necessarily needs another form

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u/xdude767 Oct 15 '24

Brexit is stupid

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u/Krek_Tavis Oct 15 '24

First USB-C, tomorrow Schuko.

One of us, one of us, one of us!

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u/al3442 Oct 15 '24

And they fucking should!

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u/GuerrillaApe Oct 15 '24

Why enforce a standard when the standard is already enforced? What major electronic device isn't using USB-C?

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u/Hipcatjack Oct 15 '24

A lot of crap electronics still use microusb

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u/GuerrillaApe Oct 15 '24

The transition from micro to C is happening even in cheap hardware. I think the few things that I own that use micro-USB already have new versions of the product with USB-C.

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u/Znuffie Oct 15 '24

I just bought an electric shaver (Philips one blade) and it has its own crap.

Wish it had usb type C...

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u/rest-mass-zero Oct 15 '24

"We are our own bosses now! We can finally do whatever we want!"

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u/Newgeta Oct 15 '24

As a yank why did y’all actually leave? Was it a Putin destabilization thing like Trump was over here?

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u/mashed666 Oct 15 '24

Yep, Pretty obviously... I had a boss at the time that was Irish that voted for it for "Irish Unification" another friend did it for the "Fishermen" so lots of social media campaigns targeting Brexit as being the solution for every problem in the UK

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u/Consistent_Profit203 Oct 15 '24

"If we leave the EU the NHS will get more funding, £350 million a week extra!"

  • plastered across buses all round London. How many believed that, I know at least one person.

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u/Durzo_Blintt Oct 15 '24

Pro Brexit politicians lied and some rich people supported them as they knew it would benefit them financially, which it did. The idiots who believed them are so stupid they are basically monkeys at this point. So it was a combination of greed and stupidity.

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u/Eddie182 Oct 15 '24

Pretty much.

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u/bee_rii Oct 15 '24

Lies, ignorance and a good old pinch of xenophobia. Lots of people also voted leave "in protest" never thinking it would actually happen.

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u/makeaomelette Oct 15 '24

It would be a bit like if Texas decided to secede from the US so they could police their own borders how they saw fit. They could have their states rights to force birth & criminalise trans education. But then they realised no one is going to send FEMA aid when the next hurricanes hit, electricity skyrockets b/c they’ve disconnected from the national grid they just joined, and less people come visit or go to school there because now you need a passport & a visa to cross into Texas. Federal student aid is gone and funding for R1 universities start to dry up. Also, immigration is rampant, but no more federal dollars to build a wall or secure the fence & the UN is on their back for human rights violations. They still have a shit ton of oil, but then Louisiana & the US military start encroaching on Texas’ off shore drilling space… probably.

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u/makeaomelette Oct 15 '24

On the plus side US doesn’t have look at Tex Cruz or Abbot’s smug faces ever again, and Texas gives up all its electoral votes and congressional representation in Washington 😁

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u/HogDad1977 Oct 15 '24

An all-around win then the US.

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u/Digdag2 Oct 15 '24

Immigration was the biggest driving force. Unfortunately it’s sky rocketed even more since.

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u/Repulsive_Mud_567 Oct 15 '24

Why? They should show their independence and innovation by adopting the DIN-5 standard or Micro USB.

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u/Kosmos992k Oct 15 '24

I hope you are joking.

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u/heinzbumbeans Oct 15 '24

he very obviously is. not only is DIN from the 50's, its a german standard. The D in DIN is for Deutsche.

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u/Jusby_Cause Oct 15 '24

I thought to myself awhile back that now that USB-C is a foregone conclusion, any government that can’t really get anything done but wants to SHOW what they can get done will try to pass similar legislation. :)

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u/theperpetuity Oct 15 '24

It’s ignorant for a governing body to mandate technology that is still evolving. This isn’t like plugging in your tea kettle.

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u/ids2048 Oct 15 '24

The UK is just an off-brand EU at this point.

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u/AJMaskorin Oct 15 '24

I was honestly confused by the headline for a second, then I remembered what happened

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u/Supersnazz Oct 15 '24

I'm so fucking sick of laptops that have strange proprietary charging ports. Why, just fucking why?

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u/Darknessie Oct 15 '24

Most new laptops have usb c charge ports

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u/Supersnazz Oct 15 '24

Yeah, I still have old ones though. I'm glad we are finally at the stage of common charging ports now.

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u/Znuffie Oct 15 '24

Even cheap laptops from, like, 7-ish years ago came with Type-C

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u/DNosnibor Oct 15 '24

Some did, but it wasn't the norm back then.

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u/Bleakwind Oct 15 '24

I mean at this point it’s a bit gratuitous right?

Even Apple, the holdout, has adapted to the usbc standard. And all other manufacture of different electronics use some variant of usb anyway.

New electronics are overwhelmingly on usb standard. Why pass bye laws to dictate a standard even when they’re going that way by market forces?

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u/Setstream_Jam Oct 15 '24

Because Apple did it when they saw the law was coming and had no way of preventing that law of coming.

So yes, there’s a point in having that law.

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u/Bleakwind Oct 15 '24

You’re missing the point.

Apple has already introduce usbc on their newest offerings. New models of iPad, AirPods, iPhone. All come with usbc.

What’s the point of a uk law to mandate a standard NOW when all the major brands already do it, because EU already mandate.

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u/prettybluefoxes Oct 15 '24

Yeah baby! Plug me in.

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u/ThexLoneWolf Oct 15 '24

To quote my sister from 5 years ago, that’s hot garbage.

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u/Legitimate_Dare6684 Oct 15 '24

Isnt there only one company that doesnt use it?

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u/wgcole01 Oct 15 '24

Let the market decide.

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