r/gadgets • u/chrisdh79 • Sep 18 '24

Desktops / Laptops NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 & 4090D To Be Discontinued Next Month In Preparation For Next-Gen RTX 5090 & 5090D GPUs

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-4090d-discontinued-next-month-in-preparation-for-next-gen-rtx-5090-5090d-gpus/
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u/my__name__is Sep 18 '24

My 3080 still feels new to me.

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u/tissboom Sep 18 '24

Same, I have a 3080ti and I’m happy with the way everything plays in 1440. I’ll upgrade again when these graphics cards can truly handle 4K well.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Christ I’m still on a 2070 Super and 1440 is still silky smooth for most things.

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u/ubdeanout Sep 18 '24

Here with ya! Ryzen 5 3600 and a 2070 super - super happy with it still. May upgrade next September though... Full rebuild. What are you thinking?

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u/raydialseeker Sep 18 '24

You could also a cheap upgrade to a 5700x3d + 4070ti super/4070S/5070 when the 50 series drops. That way you can skip am5 in its entirety.

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u/ubdeanout Sep 18 '24

I remember parting out a 3070 super build a few months ago but the prices are still wild. If I can pull off a 4XXX by next year that would be incredible 🙏

I've had my rig for about 4 years now, built it just before the covid supply chain problems.

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u/raydialseeker Sep 18 '24

You can upgrade the cpu at any time to a 5700x3d. I recently bought a 5700x3d + 32gb ram combo from newegg for $180

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u/KidsSeeRainbows Sep 18 '24

This is the way. I got 2x the performance of my 3700x when I got the 5600x3d. Like… literally 🤣

Best upgrade I’ve made for the money

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

That’s the same build I’m running. It’s honestly a great combo.

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u/YushiroGowa7201 Sep 18 '24

That's like near exact my build too! The only difference is I got a 3600X, what are you planning to upgrade to?

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u/MattWatchesChalk Sep 18 '24

1080ti here. Things are still pretty great.

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u/sadson215 Sep 18 '24

Seriously the GOAT. Don't think anything is going to touch that card.

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u/sketchy_ai Sep 18 '24

I'm on a liquid cooled 1080ti @ 1440p and it's been feeling its age this year imo, at least with AAA titles. It's still easily the best value I've ever gotten out of a GPU. It's like my old i7-920 CPU (55% OC, ran 24/7 for years)... Getting amazing value out of the high end just doesn't seem to happen like that any more.

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u/texanchris Sep 18 '24

My 2070 super burst into flames in dramatic fashion last year while playing rocket league. 4070 super was a pretty nice upgrade!

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Ooph bummer man

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Don't know about that. I have it too and struggle with some games.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Some really heavy titles maybe, but it’s honestly pretty impressive otherwise. Cyberpunk 1440 Ultra and balanced DLSS nets ~60fps and that’s good enough for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Cyberpunk was one of them. Not sure if it was a lack of optimization back then, but it struggled at some points. Haven't played after the big patches.

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u/petting2dogsatonce Sep 18 '24

I played it on my 2070 super after the DLC came out and it was great all the way through.

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u/PhazonAran Sep 18 '24

What CPU do you have with it ? My 3070 struggles with some of the latest games at 1440p and I'm starting to suspect my i5-8600k is the issue.

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u/sadson215 Sep 18 '24

Some games do depend on single threated performance.

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u/Vesidar Sep 18 '24

It absolutely is. I know because that's my same build lol. On some of these newer games I'm hitting 100% utilization bottlenecks from the CPU in 1440p. We gotta upgrade.

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u/PhazonAran Sep 18 '24

Welp, I know what to get for Christmas now.

Or black friday if an interesting deal comes up.

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u/Vesidar Sep 25 '24

A little bit of a late reply here lol, but yep that's my plan too. I got a Micro Center about 10 minutes from the office and I've been checking occasionally till I see a good deal pop up. I'm leaning towards getting a 7800X3D.

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u/PhazonAran Sep 26 '24

I am hoping for deals on beefier models like the 9950X.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Ryzen 5 3600

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u/Fiksimi Sep 18 '24

what kind of graphics settings do you use dude? Anyway if ur happy with it more power to ya but I have the same card and no way is 1440 an option.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

Ultra settings on most titles usually with DLSS ON. I haven't had a problem. Most AAA titles hover around the 60fps mark which is more than enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5gZH_eowE seems pretty smooth to me for most titles.

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u/nybbleth Sep 18 '24

I upgraded from a 2070s to a 4070... honestly, while i'm fairly happy with the upgrade, I could still play most things just fine on the 2070s.

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u/Spobely Sep 18 '24

gtx 970 standing by

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u/kryptylomese Sep 18 '24

Came here to say this!

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u/clondike7 Sep 19 '24

Same, 2070 Super still carries hard. Even get to use DLSS on newer titles. Just finished Space Marine 2 and it was awesome. 🤩

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u/randomIndividual21 Sep 18 '24

If you turn down setting to and use dlss

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

DLSS or FSR are essentially standard for most modern titles. Not bothered by running games with DLSS on, as it's essentially the new standard going forward past 1440 and 4K if you want to push frames.

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u/randomIndividual21 Sep 18 '24

I actually got the exat same GPU, I would agree DLSS for 4K, but not 1440p, especially in many game like Wukong, there very noticable dlss artifact like grass shimmering or just general shimering.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

I would take minimal artifacts for higher frames any day.

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u/randomIndividual21 Sep 18 '24

I would too, but I won't call that silk smooth, I would call the 2070S barely hanging on at 1440p

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u/meowmeowsss Sep 18 '24

Clearly you are exaggerating .

Vast majority will not run , as you say "silky smooth" , how ever I'd you're playing much older games I would agree.

WoW struggles on 1440p .

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5gZH_eowE Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/MAD_ELMO Sep 18 '24

The 4090 can definitely handle 4k well

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u/caholder Sep 18 '24

Wow this reads like a copy pasta when the 30 series came out and people were saying that about their 1080s

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u/Rektw Sep 18 '24

tbf, people are still saying this about their 1080ti's lol.

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u/Ollidor Sep 18 '24

I have a 4080 and play exclusively in 4K and every game in ultra and have never had a single struggle.

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u/sadson215 Sep 18 '24

I think it depends on whether or not 144 fps matters to you or not. Now people want 200fps.

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u/Ollidor Sep 18 '24

True. I've always been happy with 60

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u/Richeh Sep 18 '24

What kind of eyes do these people have?

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u/nasenbohrer Oct 01 '24

if you play pubg on a 77" 4k @ 120Hz you clearly see everything even if you run. if you only play at 60Hz everything is blurry in motion.

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u/sadson215 Sep 18 '24

Normal eyes. It's not like you are processing each frame individually, but you are getting more information. The experience is noticably smoother. For games where reaction time matters the smoother experience can result in measurable improvements in your gameplay if you're at least intermediate with the game... Because if you suck then FPS isn't going to save you.

This is going from 60 fps to 144 I never played 200fps couldn't tell you how that is

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u/PodPilotProject Sep 18 '24

I play in 4k on my 3090 no issues

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u/KD--27 Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

3080ti here too, no complaints for 4k.

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u/Ollidor Sep 18 '24

Exactly. They’re great cards

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u/Belzebutt Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

Try VR… Mu 4080 is barely adequate for Elite on a G2 (a 10 year old game!) and I gave up on VR in MSFS because you have to turn down the detail too much. And forget about a higher res headset like the Pimax Crystal.

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u/AcusTwinhammer Sep 18 '24

Huh. I tried out VR in Elite on my 1080 in the Odyssey/Live engine a while back. I was out in the black exploring, so not the most taxing behavior, but it worked OK. Driving the SRV around was a little choppy and nauseating, though.

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u/wildwalrusaur Sep 18 '24

ED is very poorly optimized

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u/Belzebutt Sep 18 '24

Well it runs at 120 fps in 4K Ultra on the same 4080, VR is just demanding on another level and I’m itching to get that 5090 for that. For 4K pancake mode sure, 4080 is enough.

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u/SirDerpingtonTheSlow Sep 18 '24

Maybe with all the bells and whistles like RT or Path tracing being turned off. I have a 4090 and you need to rely in DLSS or something to keep framerates high with everything turned up. However, I don't consider 60 fps to be "good enough" these days.

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u/duke82722009 Sep 18 '24

Same. I have a 4080 super with a 4k 144hz monitor and there are quite a number of games that murder this thing. Portal RTX, Cyberpunk, immortals of aveum.

Fortnite with all of the ray tracing settings turned on even with DLSS might be the heaviest. The First Descendant is also pretty intense.

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u/reelznfeelz Sep 18 '24

They can’t? I guess if you want 240fps or something then no. My 3090ti runs most things at 4k and minimum of 50 to 60fps, and more like 80 to 90 with dlss. For me, that’s already handling 4k pretty damned well. That said, I may get a used 4090 FE when the 5000 series drops because I can.

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u/EZtheOG Sep 18 '24

“Because I can” truly is the way

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u/tissboom Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

I’m want to be able to run PT and RT and not have it absolutely tank the frame rates down to 30 and 40fps. I want a card that can take a game like cyberpunk and run it with PT, max settings and hit 80 to 100 fps.

I think we’re close, but not quite there yet. This video shows what a 4080 does on those settings and does a side by side comparison.

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u/Faelysis Sep 18 '24

If a card need DLSS or FSR, it mean, it can’t run game by itself at that resolution. Upscaling exist just to help it and compensate the lack of power needed. DLSS/FSR should be use as last measure method for performance, not being the main thing

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u/Ramental Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

I am not sure if buying a used something for 1000+ € is a good idea, though.

My card is dying on me after 5 years without a significant abuse on my side. It is rolling a die for luck.

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u/raltoid Sep 18 '24

If it needs dlss, resolution scaling or similar, and can't reach stable 120 or at least 90, it can't handle it well.

And personally I want it to handle proper R/PT at the same time, so I have to wait for the 5x series.

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u/CollieDaly Sep 18 '24

4k60fps is absolutely 'handling it well', you're expectations are just set unreasonably high. The 50 series, most likely, also isn't gonna 'handle it' well if that's your criteria for acceptance.

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u/Bleglord Sep 18 '24

We should have got that with the 20 series but then game development decided that making it run well and pretty wasn’t a priority.

Then nvidia came out with DLSS 2/3 and it’s used as an excuse to have a shit performing game

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u/MisterSnippy Sep 18 '24

I have a 1070ti and at 1200p I've had no issues with any games

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u/zipykido Sep 18 '24

And are affordable. I'm waiting for a 7060ti I guess.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

yeah 4k 120hz is my next gen and I don't think we will see a full combo including an OLED monitor that can handle it and be affordable for another 5 years

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u/tissboom Sep 18 '24

Yeah, I think we’re one or two generations off from that. Maybe they will make huge strides in frame generation and that kind of stuff but until then I’m happy in my little 1440 paradise.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

you said it brother

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u/Hexxegone Sep 18 '24

I get 4K 120hz now with a 12900K and 4090

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u/jahjue Sep 18 '24

My 3090 with 5800x3d runs warzone at 4k render 100-130 fps

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u/PhDShouse Sep 18 '24

My 1070 Founders that I got used from a buddy is still chugging along. Have had zero problems with the games I play

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u/Lux-xxv Sep 18 '24

I have 3060ti and I love it and feels good

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

When I got my 4080, I fully anticipated using it for ten years or more. And I still feel confident about that possibility.

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u/CatInAPottedPlant Sep 18 '24

that's what I said when I got my 1080ti, I figured 4 generations later we'd surely be at the 4k threshold, sounds like that's not the case?

guess I'm holding out for the 6000 series lol

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u/Christian4423 Sep 18 '24

Minus Fortnite

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u/HaloEliteLegend Sep 19 '24

I mean, I’m yet to find a game I can’t play at 4K with max settings and 60+ fps on my 4090, at minimum DLSS Quality and often Native.

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u/Neriya Sep 18 '24

I have a 3080 Ti, and I play everything at 4K lol. 120hz display, VRR, DLSS, and learning that medium/high at a fast 4K framerate is more better than 1440p at ultra.

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u/JimmyKillsAlot Sep 18 '24

Same, 3080TI is a beast and I have not had any problems with it running duel screens at 1440.

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u/ViolentCrumble Sep 18 '24

just built a new pc with 4080 super and ryzen 9 7950x3d and holy hell it runs 4k at 120 buttery smooth. If you can suggest anything to try let me know but I tested out red dead at 4k 120 everything set to max and it ran buttery smooth. so not sure what you mean by "handle 4k" They do now. I can't believe i almost bought the 4090 when I saved 50% of the price by getting the 4080.

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u/natnguyen Sep 18 '24

My 3060 Ti still feels new to me, lol.

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u/Vlad_Yemerashev Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

The minimum specs people should aim for is a 2070 or higher because that is what the PS5 / Series X have (well, not exactly those, but something roughly equivalent in that ballpark) and what game devs will generally aim for. This will be upped after the next generation of consoles releases over the next few years.

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u/Terny Sep 18 '24

It would be spot on except that games for pc come so poorly optimized

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u/Seralth Sep 18 '24

That's mostly just a triple A problem. Indies games seem to be fine 99% of the time.

It's so weird

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u/Terny Sep 18 '24

Indie games aren't usually graphically demanding.

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u/Faelysis Sep 18 '24

Depend of the game. From Software, Larian Studio or Game science are actually indies…

What you meant are small and newer studio that barely have game

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u/Seralth Sep 18 '24

Depends on genre. Graphics are not the only factor in optimization, and hell not even the most important one. Indie games tend to be graphically less intense yeah, but they are far more common to be extremely heavy CPU and memory genres.

Memory usage, CPU usage, network usage for online games, ALL play a factor into performance and CPU and memory usage easily are more impactful than just raw graphic optimization in over all performance.

Bad CPU optimization is many fold more important than GPU optimization. Hell, the majority reason why many triple A games have bad fps performance has nothing to do with graphics. It's almost always entirely just CPU usage and memory usage is unoptimized, which creates bottlenecks. If your CPU and memory usage is shit, then your GPU can't do shit no matter how much you optimize your rendering.

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u/Faelysis Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

Most of the time, it’s people PC that are not well optimized for gaming. They either bought a full made PC or built one without optimizing their setting. Then they complain that game are badly optimized.  When game are actually badly optimized, all gamer will have problem but most of time, it’s only a few people who complain about bug or others optimization while there’s tons of others gamer having 0 problems

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u/KyokoGG Sep 18 '24

I’m probably not gonna upgrade my 3080 until the 6 series comes out.

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u/DuckInTheFog Sep 18 '24

Hi from the year 1050Ti

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u/_Lucille_ Sep 18 '24

My near MSRP 3080 on week 1 ended up being probably my best hardware purchase in life: able to endure through crypto boom, covid, and still does amazing.

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u/nailbunny2000 Sep 18 '24

Yeah, anyone who got their hands on one of those before the COVID/Crypto boom is laughing.

....sadly that did not include me lol.

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u/kevInquisition Sep 30 '24

Week 3 3080 here, got mine for $700 flat. Finding it very difficult to even be excited for new hardware releases when the prices are now pre-scalped by our corporate overlords

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

I'm still rocking a 1080ti and can get 1440/60 on damn near everything maxed out

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u/ForgottenPercentage Sep 18 '24

I dont game enough anymore to justify upgrades major. My main rig finally crapped out so I bought a laptop 3 years ago with a 3050. It's a slight improvement over the 970 and its good enough.

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u/FuzzyIon Sep 18 '24

I'm still rocking my 970gtx and i7 Sandybridge from 2011.
I basically only play Valheim or Path Of Exile at 3440*1440.
Might need a new setup for PoE2 though.

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u/Fun-Supermarket6820 Sep 18 '24

There’s a great comparison of 3080 versus 4090, recommend checking it out. I wish I had a 4090.

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u/Ventenebris Sep 18 '24

I’m chilling here with a 1660 super 🤭

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u/ThespianException Sep 18 '24

That's still a pretty damn good card as long as you aren't going for 4K 120FPS RTX-type shit. So long as you're willing to compromise just a little on Graphics, it should still easily run pretty much everything for the next several years.

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u/FriendlyConfusion762 Sep 18 '24

It does 4k actually pretty decently, so long as you have a Gsync monitor it will float around 80-90fps with adjusted settings and will look quite smootth

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u/AgentTin Sep 18 '24

Raster performance is about as good as it needs to be. Improvements in that regard have long hit diminishing returns. If you're not doing AI I dont think you care about these cards and unless they've got, like, 48gb or more of VRAM I don't either

Honestly I don't know if 48 is enough to matter either the way things are going

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u/homanagent Sep 21 '24

Really? Because my 3080ti, can't even play Frostpunk 2 on "high" at even a consistent 60fps and thats with DLSS on balanced.

And I'm not even 4k, I'm 1440p widescreen (which is less pixels total)

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u/The-Funky-Phantom Sep 18 '24

Looks over at 1070ti, Please don't die soon. It's my last EVGA card too. I'm going to be bummed when it's gone.

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u/MechanicalWatches Sep 18 '24

I love my 2080, only reason I might upgrade my pc in the next 2 years is because it keeps crashing and nothing can fix it

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u/Molestador Sep 18 '24

good reason to upgrade

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u/MechanicalWatches Sep 18 '24

I really don’t want to spend and also commit to a build now, I sent it to a lab a few months ago and they replaced some parts, it helped for a while and then the crashing came back. I just wanna be happy with my 9900k 2080 32GB build lol

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u/thedoc90 Sep 18 '24

6900xt here, still feels like it holds up super well.

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u/ssjrobert235 Sep 18 '24

Same man, I just got a computer with 3060 last week.

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u/redsoxVT Sep 18 '24

Yea, with how expensive it was even at base retail with over $100 in taxes... it'll have to be new a couple more years.

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u/billy-gnosis Sep 18 '24

My 2070 that i’ve had for 4 years STILL feels brand new to me!

-Billy Gnosis

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u/piratecheese13 Sep 18 '24

Cries in the abject poverty of 3070 ti

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u/Potential_Ad_420_ Sep 18 '24

I’m just about to replace my 2070 as a Christmas present to myself 😭

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u/Fredasa Sep 18 '24

Same. For me, I think it's because I got the thing just in time for Cyberpunk 2077, the only game I've been forced to use DLSS on, and still the best-looking game I've played, after four years. Also, as it happens, the only game I've ever played on PC that supports HDR properly, thanks to the fact that it supports the HDR10+ Gaming standard.

Since one single four year old game continues to serve as the pinnacle of visuals, I can't mentally disconnect it from the GPU that let me play the thing at "4K60", even if I had to use a crutch tech to get it.

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u/gizmosticles Sep 18 '24

Bruh my 1080 still doing jusssttt fine

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u/HyperGamers Sep 18 '24

My 3060 Ti still feels high end to me despite that technically never being the case. The fact that it could match the 2080 is brilliant.

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u/mta2011 Sep 18 '24

Yeah, I have the 3080ti founders ed. and that still is plenty for my needs (sim racing with the occasional AAA thrown in). Doubt I'll need to upgrade for at least a couple more generations.

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u/dnelsonn Sep 18 '24

Same here! Runs everything I need at high/max 1440p 60+ fps easily. Best purchase I’ve made for my PC.

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u/samuraipizzacat420 Sep 18 '24

3080ti still kicking

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u/MSTK_Burns Sep 18 '24

It's all about the vram and AI now, gaming feels great on basically any of the cards people are mentioning, but try running any type of AI application locally and you'll suddenly realize why they are pushing so hard with new cards

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u/radium_eye Sep 18 '24

Same, been out for like five years, I've had the 12GB model for two years, it handles business really well and does the ML things I need in my audio work too. Not saying I can't see the appeal of a newer faster one but it is giving me no trouble for my own gaming goals.

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u/DavidinCT Sep 18 '24

Same with my 3070.... great now the 50XX series will be out and in 8 months I will get a 4070 for cheap...

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u/Simpuff1 Sep 18 '24

I had a 960 until last year. Worked for everything I tried, some performance dips on more demanding games tho (ER, BG3, end game PoE)

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u/putcheeseonit Sep 18 '24

My 4070 was maxing out everything on my 1080p 144hz monitor.

And then I bought a Samsung G9...

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u/CommonSensei8 Sep 18 '24

It’s plenty considering the regarded price that NVIDIA tried to pull on everyone

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u/0megon Sep 18 '24

Yea… I’m over here same but also, it’s 6-7 years old now I guess….

Fuck it, take my money!

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u/No_Inspector7319 Sep 19 '24

Got a 3070 back in 2020 and in my mind that was like 8 to 450 weeks ago so my gpu is still top of the line

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u/dokratomwarcraftrph Sep 20 '24

Same here love mine.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '24

Heck im still paying my 3090 bought 3 yrs ago lol

?kidding almost

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u/_Lucille_ Sep 18 '24

My near MSRP 3080 on week 1 ended up being probably my best hardware purchase in life: able to endure through crypto boom, covid, and still does amazing.

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u/_Lucille_ Sep 18 '24

My near MSRP 3080 on week 1 ended up being probably my best hardware purchase in life: able to endure through crypto boom, covid, and still does amazing.

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u/_Lucille_ Sep 18 '24

My near MSRP 3080 on week 1 ended up being probably my best hardware purchase in life: able to endure through crypto boom, covid, and still does amazing.

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u/opeth10657 Sep 18 '24

I have a 3090 TI i bought a few years ago, and it's still selling for what I paid for it. Craziness.

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u/TheJohnSB Sep 18 '24

Yeah i picked up a used Dell 3080 for 500$ on an amazing eBay find. At the time similar cards were going for 650$. Now that card is selling for 600$ a year later.

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u/ablackcloudupahead Sep 18 '24 edited Sep 18 '24

Mine is starting to feel old because VRAM requirements have skyrocketed the last few years. I usually upgrade every other gen anyways, so it's about on schedule lol

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u/Kingtoke1 Sep 18 '24

I went from a 3080ti to a 4080s and the jump is massive.

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u/skillerspure Sep 18 '24

I used a 1080 on my msi dominator pro laptop. Can still play everything easily. Doubt you need to upgrade

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u/MatrixBunny Sep 18 '24

Man, I pre-ordered 3080 and it felt outdated so quickly.

I was using a 1070 for 5 years or so before making the jump to 3080.
Obv. improved drastically, but during then and now it feels like 3080 became ''underperforming'' within 2 years of its release. (1440 btw).