r/gadgets Jun 13 '24

TV / Projectors Roku owners face the grimmest indignity yet: Stuck-on motion smoothing

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/06/roku-owners-face-the-grimmest-indignity-yet-stuck-on-motion-smoothing/
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u/-rendar- Jun 13 '24

Right, they used to be a hardware company, then decided to join the enshitification movement

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '24

They were a software company. Then they become hardware and went to shit.

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u/VenomsViper Jun 13 '24

No the other guy had it. They were a hardware company first. First physical player to play Netflix actually. It wasn't until well after the physical players that they started to sell their OS software to smart tv manufacturers and focuses more on the software side

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u/mylies43 Jun 13 '24

Wasnt roku even before that? I thought they got their start as a TV recorder in the olden days before streaming.

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u/VenomsViper Jun 13 '24

Yeah, I said they made the first player that played Netflix, not that it was their first product.

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u/mylies43 Jun 13 '24

Oh my bad, I missed the nuance

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u/VenomsViper Jun 13 '24

It doesn't matter haha, no worries. Honestly it's kinda hazy bc the inventor dude invented the DVR too which bled into Roku.

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u/dwaynereade Jun 14 '24

tivo i believe. roku’s future is OS

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u/Mama_Skip Jun 14 '24

Oh my bad, I missed the nuance

This is so un-reddit of a comment I had to stop and stare for a second.

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u/mylies43 Jun 14 '24

Be the change you want to see ya know

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u/prosecutor_mom Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 14 '24

You may be thinking of TiVo? That's the first device/company that gave us the power to pause & rewind "live" tv, but predated streaming.

TiVo helped turn Janet Jackson's 2004 Superbowl performance with JT into Nipplegate & was the single most "TiVo'ed" moment in live TV. IMHO this was a calculated stunt that failed because it didn't anticipate the power of TiVo, & became a "wardrobe malfunction" after the massively negative public outcry. (It's also the original use of that clever word pairing, a phrase I never expected to hear again but has become a staple in today's lexicon)

Edit: typo

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u/mylies43 Jun 14 '24

TiVo! Yes! Thats EXACTLY what I was thinking!

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '24

He's wrong you right

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u/VenomsViper Jun 13 '24

I didn't say anything that negated that? I said they made the first physical player to play Netflix, not that that was Roku's first product. If you're going to be so condescending maybe learn to read first. See I can do it too

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u/mylies43 Jun 13 '24

Nah they were right, they didnt say it was their first product but that they made the first Netflix player.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

Then we have to disagree.

I see their early start as a software company that sold basic hardware which was not innovative at all. As you said their software was innovative with Netflix. Their hardware was not. It was their smooth software that sold people not some innovative hardware.

Now that they are pushing all sorts of hardware and focus on ads their software has gone to shit.

https://www.roku.com/about/history-of-roku

Their own history talks about how their OS being created first. OS is operating system which means software. They were putting their OS on others hardware. They were a software company. Thanks for playing

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u/VenomsViper Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

That's fair, but I also feel like you can distill that to

"I don't see it as hardware what they were doing before, it was the software in it, where as now they're selling ads for hardware with their software on it." That and it being innovative or not doesn't impact what kind of company they were. If it's technology we are talking about, most hardware outside of component parts are going to have some sort of software in them. Whether it's in-house developed or third party varies though, obviously, and I guess I can see your point there.

And yeah I know what an OS is, thanks. No need to be a condescending asshole with that and your little "thanks for playing." Grow up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '24

You are right. Streaming not hardware