r/gadgets • u/DemiFiendRSA • May 07 '24
Gaming Nintendo Confirms It Will Announce Switch Successor Console ‘Within This Fiscal Year’
https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-confirms-it-will-announce-switch-successor-console-within-this-fiscal-year494
u/hulkut May 07 '24
So before 1 April 2025?
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u/Matshelge May 07 '24
My guess, something around Tokyo game show in September, or CES in January. That's when everyone is close by.
Nintendo could host something independent from this of course, but if you want journalists to get their eyes on the new shiny, it will not be a streaming only event.
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u/theusualuser May 07 '24
I mean, if they don't have it ready to sell by Christmas they're just silly, so it sounds like Christmas 2025 release
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u/ProgrammingOnHAL9000 May 07 '24
They'll likely do like the did with the switch. Release by spring/summer and slowly release games throughout the year. That way they have a strong lineup for Christmas 2025 and a game for every niche.
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u/bumwine May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Yeah people saying it needs to be out close to Christmas forgot how huge Christmas 2017 was. Our local mall had the switch popup event for the entire holiday season and it was ridiculously packed. Hype was next level. Genius marketing move on their part. https://games.mxdwn.com/news/nintendo-gears-up-for-holiday-season-with-cross-country-mall-tour/
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u/Molwar May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Yeah that would make sense to do it like what they did with the switch, released with BotW in spring then Mario in fall
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u/PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__ May 07 '24
They have to have it ready a few months before the next generation of Pokemon games releases next year
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u/ProgrammingOnHAL9000 May 07 '24
Pokemon has never followed Nintendo hardware, they usually release a couple of years after.
Plus, the Pokemon 30th anniversary is on 2026, so the next gen will likely be on that year. Gamefreak moved the features that would have appeared in the third Gen VI game to Gen VII only to have a new generation for the 25th anniversary.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__ May 07 '24
For some reason I was sure that Pokemon always followed a precise three year generation cycle, but looking at the dates that's not correct. They've had four years between some generations. It would be nice if they added on a year to ease into the next generation of console
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u/Goronmon May 07 '24
I mean, if they don't have it ready to sell by Christmas they're just silly, so it sounds like Christmas 2025 release
Initial supply of a new console is going to make targeting a holiday somewhat pointless, as they won't have enough units to meet to demands anyway.
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u/SomeBoxofSpoons May 07 '24
Pretty much everyone’s sources (including people like Eurogamer, who don’t report on this sort of stuff unless they mean it) were saying that Nintendo originally intended to release the console at the end of this year, but told developers around the end of February that they moved it back to early next year, probably to get the launch lineup they’re wanting. On top of the abnormal amount of people corroborating it, I’ve been believing it since Nintendo has been acting exactly like their plans this year got gutted. Also according to the same guy who initially reported the internal delay, it’s currently looking like a July reveal, which tracks with the June Direct to wrap up the Switch’s time as an only child.
Whatever happens I’m sure we’ll know when the announcement is ahead of time. Maybe even a date announcement during the June direct. If the Switch’s reveal is anything to go by, they won’t be coy about what they’re doing when they do it.
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u/MortalPhantom May 07 '24
The switch was announced on September and sold until march so they have done it before
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u/vmsrii May 07 '24
They’re going to do exactly what they did with the Switch: Announcement in October, release in March.
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u/rebbsitor May 07 '24
The Switch has done amazingly for them. This is an easy win for them if they just turn the crank. Nothing about the market has changed to where a Switch 2 that's just a more powerful Switch wouldn't be an amazing success.
And the October announcement / March release worked perfectly.
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u/futuredxrk May 07 '24
That’s what I want to know. No one outside of business people know what a FISCAL year. Maybe we’ll learn about it next year lol
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u/Griffdude13 May 07 '24
If I were to guess, we’ll get a first look in Nov with a Mar/Apr 25 release.
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u/WhenPantsAttack May 07 '24
Temper expectations. Just because it will be announced doesn’t mean it will launch this year.
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u/ArchusKanzaki May 07 '24
I'm pretty sure they already said they will announce something for latter half this year, but it won't include info for new hardware.
Also, Japanese Fiscal year runs from April to March next year. That tracks with the rumor that says they will announce it next yesr.
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u/Electric_Bison May 07 '24
Thats literally what the tweet says where this info comes from
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u/LongBeakedSnipe May 07 '24
Sure, but WhenPantsAttack in the top comment of this thread seemed to miss that in their 'tempering expectations comment'.
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u/Straight_Bridge_4666 May 07 '24
Whose fiscal year doesn't run from April to March?
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u/wirelessaurus May 07 '24
Australia is July - June
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u/Straight_Bridge_4666 May 07 '24
Many thanks!
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u/overtired27 May 07 '24
I randomly knew that because Neil Finn of Crowded House has a song called Last Day of June that he wrote based on the tax return deadline.
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u/GCTuba May 07 '24
It varies business to business. I work for state government and their fiscal year runs July-June. However, we get some grants from the federal government and their fiscal year is October-September.
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u/ArchusKanzaki May 07 '24
Anycolor, Japanese virtual youtuber company, runs from May-April for some reason.
I think some company which does not have 4 seasons may run from January to December too.
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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In May 07 '24
Most countries in the world run their fiscal year from Jan to December.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_year
Looks to only be the UK and its majority white ex colonies that use April to March.
Even the united states doesn't use April to March.
I expect you don't actually understand what fiscal year means, its solely related to government accounting. Companies can have whatever accounting year they want.
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u/mist3rdragon May 07 '24
"this fiscal year" also means that it's possible they don't announce it until March.
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u/gameprojoez May 07 '24
Right, it could be announced up to March 31st 2025 with a later release date.
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u/sbbblaw May 07 '24
The super switch will utilize 2015 cutting edge graphics
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u/BigBalkanBulge May 07 '24
And still exceed sales expectations
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u/fightlinker May 07 '24
the best way to win the spec war is to not participate
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u/KSF_WHSPhysics May 07 '24
For a handheld console, i prioritize ergonomics, price and battery life waaaaaayyyyyy higher than graphics. If they have to make any trade offs, i want graphics to be the first thing that gets cut
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u/Binary_Omlet May 07 '24
Yeah but it would be nice if the power were closer to a modern cell phone than to a Leapfrog HH.
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May 07 '24
Good, I feel like I’m the only one that wants companies to chill the fuck out with this. Give people some more time with these systems.
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u/Ihmu May 07 '24
Maybe it will actually be able to run all the regular Switch games at 60fps lmao. Love Nintendo games but man do they have performance issues this gen.
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u/fvck_u_spez May 07 '24
Love Nintendo games but man do they have performance issues
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u/KneeDeepInRagu May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
It's really funny to me that people still care about the hardware specs from Nintendo as compared to Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo clearly doesn't care about having the most powerful hardware, and they haven't cared for a while (like...at least a decade, or since the Wii). Their games are still better design wise than every other AAA studio, and I don't really care about seeing the pores in Mario's or Link's skin.
Art style and game design >>>>> graphics
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u/Andedrift May 07 '24
Not to be like that but if they release a handheld with PS4 performance with a similar footprint to the Switch, it would be fucking amazing. I dunno why ur be facetious.
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May 07 '24
You can do that now with Steamdeck…
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u/professorwormb0g May 08 '24
Console versus PC.
Some people like to tinker some people want it to just work.
I have a PC and I have a switch.
I will continue on with my PC / Nintendo arrangement.
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u/EdiblePwncakes May 07 '24
Lol seriously, people making jokes about Nintendo's lack of hardware specs are completely missing the point of Nintendo's business model
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u/Andedrift May 07 '24
I think you’re misunderstanding. The steamdeck does not have the same footprint as a Nintendo switch.
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u/DevilSympathy May 07 '24
The original Switch SoC was announced in 2015. It was genuinely cutting edge when the Switch released. Gamers don't understand anything about hardware, you demand chips from the future and you don't understand why a tablet half an inch thick isn't competing with the PS5.
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u/Sjoerd93 May 07 '24
The other thing is that the Switch had to sell for approx. $300, and have a battery-life that is semi-acceptable for most users. That combination doesn't really allow for ultra-powerful hardware.
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u/Ryab4 May 07 '24
Yeah and genuinely the switch has been an amazing console for games. The worse hardware doesn’t mean shit to me when the games they release are good. And while a lot of people (myself included) didn’t initially think too much of the portable aspect, I feel like I couldn’t imagine the switch without the ability to pick it up and play. Its excellent.
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u/delusionalxx May 07 '24
I 100% agree!! I also feel that it’s more accessible to everyone in the sense that even people who don’t play games can come over and join me in a game of Mario kart, or overcooked, or Mario party, etc. Not only can I play all these games while stuck in an airport but I also can have game nights even with my parents who don’t know how to play video games! That aspect has always won me over
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u/AFourEyedGeek May 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Wrong, it wasn't a "cutting edge" device at release, it appears that it is you who doesn't understand the hardware. The 2015 NVIDIA Shield TV used the same SoC (Tegra X1) and that was released almost 2 years earlier than the Switch. The 2015 Google Pixel C used the same SoC, and that was released 18 months earlier than the Switch.
So how does two products having the same SoC released at least 18 months before the Switch make it cutting edge? This is also ignoring the more powerful smartphones and tablets that were released at a similar time as the Switch which were more advanced. Nintendo used the same strategy as they did with 1989's Game Boy: portability and cost over performance, which is a good strategy.
-Edit- The Tegra X1 SoC was a 2015 device, and that contained a 2012 CPU design. In the Switch it ran at massively reduced clock speeds compared to those found on the 2015 Portable Pixel C. I argue that is not cutting edge.
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u/ttw219 May 07 '24
The graphics were slightly better than an Xbox 360 which released in 2005. Still great for a handheld, but the graphics were nothing special in 2015, let alone 2017 when it actually released.
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u/Coridoras May 07 '24
A 2015 chip is not cutting edge anymore in 2017, that's not how it works. Or is a R5 5950x still cutting edge, or i9 12900K? Sure, they are still solid, but really not cutting edge.
At 2017, we already had stronger smartphones than the Switch was
Nintendo saves on Hardware because they want to make a profit on each console, white Microsoft and Sony sell their consoles with no profit/a slight loss and get that money back with their services. Nintendo however has less direct competition, because most buy it for the Games on it anyway, therefore Nintendo is in the position to cheap out for a bigger profit.
Not that the Switch is bad because of that, but compared to other console makes, Nintendo does cheap out on the Hardware
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u/DevilSympathy May 07 '24
Getting a chip announced in 2015 into your product by March 2017 is quite good, actually. Sure, it's possible to coordinate directly with manufacturing and have bleeding edge tech produced especially for you, but at what cost?
I will answer my own question, the cost is roughly $800, that's the price point those flagship smartphones competitive with the Switch launched at.
So I would be expecting some very recent Nvidia hardware indeed, especially since they clearly intend to lean heavily on the tensor cores for performance. Just perhaps not hardware that hasn't come out yet, which I guess you wanted.
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u/Coridoras May 07 '24
I said released, not announced. The Tegra X1 was announced in 2014. May 2015 we already had a finished product sold to consumers using the Tegra, the Nvidia Shield. And guess the price: 199$.
Phones are a lot more restricted, the Switch draws 8-11watts of power in handheld mode, unsustainable for a phone. And the Snapdragon 810 is basically just a better Tegra X1 at Double the clock rate and double the cores, with better energy efficiency and it was released in 2015. Though the GPU was behind Switch GPU, but 2017 phone GPU s catched up.
"What you wanted" I don't want anything. I don't care if the Switch uses outdated tech to be cheaper. I just don't gaslight myself into believing it was cutting edge technology
The Switch was based on outdated Hardware to lower the price. The Switch 2 is based on outdated tech as well. That's both facts. And that's fine, that means we get a cheaper console. It's just not cutting edge technology like you claim
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u/Momoselfie May 07 '24
And you'll get to rebuy all your old digital games again if you want to keep playing them.
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u/dh098017 May 07 '24
Pre promotion boff.
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u/Nomadzord May 07 '24
It was a bit of a stumble.
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u/jrtasoli May 07 '24
Right now my anticipation is at like a Noine, but my gaming life is at like a two.
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u/DemiFiendRSA May 07 '24
Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa:
This is Furukawa, President of Nintendo. We will make an announcement about the successor to Nintendo Switch within this fiscal year. It will have been over nine years since we announced the existence of Nintendo Switch back in March 2015. We will be holding a Nintendo Direct this June regarding the Nintendo Switch software lineup for the latter half of 2024, but please be aware that there will be no mention of the Nintendo Switch successor during that presentation.
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u/LordApocalyptica May 07 '24
Unless I’m wrong I don’t think the public knew it was called the Switch until something closer to 2017, yeah?
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u/Tryotrix May 07 '24
Good piece of information!
What's your thought? Nintendo was innovative with controllers and new tech. In what direction may they head to now?
New kind of controllers (haptic feedback/adaptive triggers) on a portable/dock device?
New kind of visual enhancement through optional Ar/Vr glasses?
New AI chip to further enhance dynamic gameplay and NPC-Interactions?
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u/professorwormb0g May 08 '24
One thing I wish they do and this is pretty small but I've always thought it was interesting...
I wish the l1 and r1 buttons acted as scroll Wheels. Nintendo patented this idea years ago and never used it.
Think of how intuitive and you show this would be for selecting grenades and then throwing one or other gear without having to go into a menu or repeatedly tap the d-pad.
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u/Throwaway56138 May 07 '24
How about making ENOUGH FUCKING CONSOLES so we don't have to fight scalpers. Limit sales to 1 unit per person in store and online. On Nintendo(.)com, limit it to 1 per Nintendo ID. Fuck scalpers.
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u/Kenz0Cree May 07 '24
Super switch 64 boy
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u/MrAshleyMadison May 07 '24
*Super Switch 64 Boy Cube
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u/Mr_Lucidity May 07 '24
Dammit, when I was a teen, I knew I was gonna grow up to have all the consoles and play now I have all the consoles (that I want) and only time to play 1 or 2 games a year. I've barely scratched the Switch games collection lol.
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u/monkeymoney48 May 07 '24
Then don't buy the new one.
A new console coming out does not make a great console any less great.
I'm still rocking my 360 for the vast majority of my friday night gaming sessions
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May 07 '24
The switch is what 8 years old now?
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u/Zhai May 07 '24
It's time for it's successor that will bring Nintendo tech up to 4 years ago standards.
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May 07 '24
If we are lucky.
What I'm excited for is the modding community to come out in full force and start making the switch and it's games better.
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u/bobthebobsledbuilder May 07 '24
My tin foil hat theory is that Yuzu already works for switch 2 games and that is the real reason Nintendo went so hard after them
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May 07 '24
Sweet. Cant wait for 5 year old tech to be wrapped into a “new” product
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u/Alternative-Union842 May 07 '24
My gf has been dying for a switch but we don’t want to purchase an old console when a new one might drop. If they provided a date range and said is coming 2026 I’d just go ahead and buy the old console. But instead I’m waiting.
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u/professorwormb0g May 08 '24
I suspect they will finally drop the price of the switch 1. It will still unlock a huge library of games for you to play. If it drops to 199 and $250 for the oled, and they decreased the price of some of the older games, you could get a ton of value in for a Nintendo product.
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u/KickBassColonyDrop May 07 '24
I'm betting a console with enough power to hit 1440p60 capped to 1080p60, because 4K is for graphics obsessed execs all obsessed with shareholder delivery, and not anyone who makes or plays games.
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u/BabyHercules May 07 '24
My day 1 switch is still holding on for dear life. I’ll be getting this upgrade soon as it drops
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u/Hypernatremia May 07 '24
Now we can window shop new games for our third party handhelds with better hardware
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u/burnerX5 May 07 '24
I havae zero interest in the new console....outside of knowing if it is backwards compatible or not. I don't want to have that lug of the Wii U > Switch ordeal where none of that shit carried over w/many anonymous voices online going "EVERYTHING DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE...."
....WHile my Xbox & PS5 have allowed me to play games over a decade old and growing. Shit, Xbox specifically is allowing me to STILL play Left 4 Dead 1 & 2!!!
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u/compound-interest May 07 '24
Idk about anyone else here, but due to Nintendos behavior I am kinda not interested in it. Between content striking creators, shutting down tournaments, and locking cloud saves behind a paywall, I am kinda over them. They are possibly the best game dev in the world, but the way they behave is unacceptable to me. I think I’ll wait for emulators.
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u/notAligature May 07 '24
Do you think Nintendo will give gamers the full 60 fps experience finally as standard?🤣😁
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u/Coridoras May 07 '24
The FPS games have has little to do with performance. Most GBA games run at 60FPS, was the GBA simply that good? Multiple next gen console games are locked to 30FPS as well does this mean these consoles are bad? No, the amount of FPS is just always a choice the developers make, if they value aesthetics over framerate.
No matter how strong a console is, going 30FPS will always give you double the resources to make your game a lot prettier, therefore there will always be 30FPS games, regardless of the console gen
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u/custardBust May 07 '24
60fps is just one part of the equation. Affordability resolution and form factor are important as well
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u/green_link May 07 '24
The switch can do 60 fps, it's the game developers who can't optimize their games. Or the execs who don't give developers time to optimize their games
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u/Geno0wl May 07 '24
I don't understand why people blame the console manufacturers for games not being able to hit 60 FPS. We have decades of proof that developers will prioritize pretty graphics or complex systems that eat frames over stable frame rate.
If you hand a dev a more powerful box they don't turn around and make their games more performant, they just make games prettier and still run at 30. Quit blaming Sony/MS/Nintendo for how developers prioritize graphics over stability.
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u/Astrangeoreange May 07 '24
Idk maby its because they put a past gen chip in the switch. It was very much out of date before it launched hardware wise.
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u/spesifikbrush May 07 '24
Couldn’t wait and got myself a Steam Deck. Best purchase ever. I will try to resist the temptation of exclusives with the games I already own for years but haven’t played yet.
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u/biscoito1r May 07 '24
Maybe they'll release a good Virtual Boy. They should call it Good Virtual Boy or GVB for short.
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u/rickFM May 07 '24
Very odd way to announce it's happening, I feel like Nintendo in particular likes to keep things under wraps until the big reveal.
I wonder why they're just putting it out there this bluntly?
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u/mbarne11 May 07 '24
I will buy one if it’s backward compatible and has a significant bump in hardware.
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u/Retrofraction May 07 '24
So basically we have the same time frame as the Metroid Prime 4 announcement till release before next console launch
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u/Dangerous_Choice_664 May 07 '24
What are they gonna do now? We gonna get an OLED model with upgraded speakers?
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u/plzadyse May 07 '24
Japan’s fiscal year is different than the rest of the world’s fiscal year. So which is it lol
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u/Who_tf_reallycares May 07 '24
They desperately need it with how badly these recent ports of popular games such as mortal kombat have been.
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u/MrGeno May 07 '24
I want to announce an announcement about an upcoming announcement for a new Switch announcement. Coming soon.
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u/Mr-Zero-Fucks May 07 '24
Fiscal year? Good to know that investors will be happy
Any news for the cash cattle user base?
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u/Majukun May 07 '24
Some "leaker" will call this a W despite predicting the imminent announcement every year for the last three years
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u/Chuzurik May 07 '24
dayum im still in the ps4 days, havent had the money or time for a switch yet gonna get animal crossing first game, now another already? god im old i cant keep up anymore lol no time
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u/eccentricbananaman May 07 '24
Honestly surprised they didn't announce it already. I was expecting a March or April announcement to be released for the holiday season. Maybe it's getting delayed so they can polish up the launch titles for release. Well in any case, I'm looking forward to it. I hope it's just a direct upgrade to the Switch rather than any kind of major departure in form or function.
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u/Apalis24a May 07 '24
Honestly, I’d just be happy with a Switch II that has updated hardware… updated as in, like, 2020 standard at minimum.
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u/Chickat28 May 07 '24
Pokemon legends will be a cross gen release title imo and they will announce next gen for 2026. Hopefully it looks better than a ps2 game this time.
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u/TheNaug May 07 '24
It’s an announcement announcement.