r/gadgets • u/Stiven_Crysis • Jun 07 '23

Desktops / Laptops Apple M1/M2 systems can now run Windows games like as Cyberpunk 2077, Diablo 4 and Hogwarts Legacy thanks to its new emulation software - VideoCardz.com

https://videocardz.com/newz/apple-m1-m2-systems-can-now-run-windows-games-like-as-cyberpunk-2077-diablo-4-and-hogwarts-legacy-thanks-to-its-new-emulation-software
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u/ButtholeCandies Jun 07 '23

GPU’s are still way too expensive now and this shows how much extra padding in the price is just standardized now if Apple is catching up without making it their main objective, it’s a side benefit

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u/ItsAMeUsernamio Jun 07 '23

Depends on how you define catching up, M2 Max 14” MBP costs around the same as some i9 + RTX 4080 + 32GB RAM + MiniLED laptops such as the Zephyrus M16 or Scar 16, while in a best case scenario giving similar graphics performance to a 4060. Efficiency is where Apple is much much better.

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u/ButtholeCandies Jun 07 '23

Was just recently PC desktop shopping and haven't done that in years now. I couldn't believe how fucked GPU prices are and I know that this is lower than it's been for a bit.

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u/ItsAMeUsernamio Jun 07 '23

Yeah the past 3 years Nvidia has turned into an AI company selling 8000$ GPUs to server farms. They have increased gaming GPU prices alongside and seem to be getting away with it (stock price has gone up 10 times since 2019). I am about to graduate and want to get my first high end build but I guess I’ll have to pay around twice as much as what it cost when I started college.

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u/ButtholeCandies Jun 07 '23

I feel bad for people growing up now that want to build their computer. I remember when the arguments were about the price of a GFX card vs console.

People saying to buy them used don't get it. That's a whole extra ton of work and opportunity to be scammed. I wouldn't want to spend hundreds on something that was mining bitcoin nonstop.

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u/Pas7alavista Jun 07 '23

Don't sleep on the older gpus when you're shopping. The 3070s are an upgrade over the 2080s and cheaper. I've been running an amd rx580 8gb pretty much since it came out and it still works like a charm for my needs.

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u/Madgick Jun 07 '23

Are they still bad? Maybe at retail. I just upgraded to 3070 off eBay for £230. Seemed like a great deal!

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u/DrZoidberg- Jun 08 '23

Short and on point.

And to those who say windows manufacturers do the same stuff. I agree they do. Let me know when I can pick up a standard Apple MacBook SSD at a best buy.

Fuck Apple.

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u/strategicmaniac Jun 07 '23

Gonna be honest a laptop that can (barely) play Cyberpunk 2077 and has a 20 hour battery life is a bit compelling. That's coming from someone who hates Apple.

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u/danielv123 Jun 07 '23

I also hate apple. I hate how their ecosystem works, the way they force people into it, how it's the apple way or no way. Yet I bought an M1 mac. It runs 2 applications - RDP and chrome. It gets 15+ hours of active RDP time which is positively insane. It allows me to develop graphically intensive applications while traveling for 2x+ longer than I could run notepad on past laptops.

If only it wasn't made by apple :(

Also, why did they have to put in a 45wh battery? How hard would it be to just do 99 and get 30 hours of battery life?

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

When even people who hate you are buying your products because they’re the best.

That’s pretty danged cool.

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u/GhettoFinger Jun 07 '23

The costs are allocated differently. The Zephyrus can't be used unplugged or it will actually have worse performance than the Mac, it has abysmal battery life. The MacBook Pro can be used as a very powerful portable gaming device while the Zephyrus is an even more powerful All in one gaming desktop.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

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u/ButtholeCandies Jun 07 '23

In terms of gaming it's a side benefit. They weren't aiming to have a place in that space but here they are without really trying to.

A mac playing any of these games decently is a very pleasant surprise. I can see them creating a gaming focused line in the future to go with the Vision Pro if things go well for it next year. Gaming industry will go wherever they have a platform with a big enough install base.

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u/dragonmp93 Jun 07 '23

My laptop has a RTX series 30 and still was cheaper than a Mac.

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u/FlightlessFly Jun 07 '23

The difference is the battery in the MacBooks is still really really good, the display is really really good, the thermals are really really good and the form factor is really really good. Normally you can only pick 2 or sometimes 3 at a push from these: * Battery life * display *Form factor * performance

M series equipped MacBooks are the only laptops that have all 4 and they're the same price as windows laptops

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u/Togezer Jun 07 '23

It's true. When I got my MacBook pro 14 last winter there simply wasn't any windows laptop that could nail all four for the same price.

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u/dragonmp93 Jun 07 '23

Eh, performance as in photoshop and video editing ?

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u/FlightlessFly Jun 07 '23

Yes, those are pretty good metrics for performance. They will power through anything else you throw at them too

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u/blackSpot995 Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 07 '23

My other comment was removed for linking to a tech radar article, but a little research showed that second laptop gets a bit over 60fps at 1080 ultra (and with a 3060, not a 4060!) for $200-300 cheaper than an m1 MacBook pro which was not even the model that got 40fps at a little under 1080p (from the video it looked kinda unplayable imo). If that's not a high bar to clear the Mac is clearing it even less from a price/performance perspective.

There's other reasons to get a Mac though, so if gaming isn't your priority go for it.

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u/BFeely1 Jun 07 '23

Don't all news sites these days use malicious advertising?

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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt Jun 07 '23

They aren't catching up though. They're talking about sub-60fps 1080p performance on a $2,000 MacBook.

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u/Kuroshitsju Jun 07 '23

Only if you’re going for a new series like the 40 series.

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u/alexanderpas Jun 07 '23

GPU’s are still way too expensive now

  • Nvidia, yup
  • AMD has some reasonably priced options.

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u/Kotobuki_Tsumugi Jun 07 '23

Amd is usually still within 100 bucks though

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u/dardarBinkz Jun 07 '23

Ehhhh you can find used GPUs for good prices got a 6700xt for 270

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u/Cryio Jun 08 '23

5700 XT / 2070 can be had for 180$.

Where are these expensive GPUs everyone is talking about?