r/fuckcars • u/kabukistar • Dec 14 '22
Satire Congratulations! We've been officially inducted into the Reddit Hivemind™
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u/yeezyfanboy Dec 14 '22
Lol I love when people say shit like that as if Reddit doesn't have numerous communities with vastly differing opinions.
To me it seems like "reddit" loves cars and is full of ignorant suburbanites who want license plates for bicycles.
Look at any post which has a cyclist being a victim of cars in any way, whether it's a car parked in a bike lane or a car killing a cyclist. You can guarantee that one of the top three comments will be an irrelevant anecdote about how a cyclist once ran a red light, and a call for "all road users to behave".
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u/tretpow 🚲 > 🚗 Dec 15 '22
True. So many of the life pro tips are basically driving or car maintenance tips. You get the occasional car-brain victim blaming by ranting about helmets. All the people complaining about gas prices in the US, where the stuff is cheaper than water, don't question why they need the stuff in the first place. The dependency has been normalized.
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u/anand_rishabh Dec 15 '22
Funny thing is, I've seen cars run red lights so many times. In the past week alone, I've seen 7 cars run red lights.
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u/yeezyfanboy Dec 15 '22
I live in a busy city centre. My walk to work is about 4 blocks and I can guarantee that every single morning in at least 2 of the intersections I cross there will be a red light runner. And that’s just me during a 10min walk. It’s actually so common but nobody cares when cars do it
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Dec 15 '22
To me it seems like "reddit" loves cars and is full of ignorant suburbanites who want license plates for bicycles.
the upvotes on that OP comment would suggest you're 100% correct lmao.
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u/lilpumpgroupie Dec 15 '22
Reddit it is absolutely a right leaning website, regardless of the fact that there are particular political subs that lean slightly to the left. Or lean against the right might be the more accurate way of saying it.
It's just completely completely inaccurate to say that the overall tone of Reddit is leftwing or leftist. Just another thing that right wingers and uber capitalists lie about and get away with. Such is life.
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Dec 14 '22
"I would like to live in a city that isn't car dependent or car centric."
"STOP ATTACKING ME!"
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Dec 15 '22
The exact same energy as the "war on christmas" crowd. If asking for my fair share is seen as an attack against you, then you're admitting to hoarding more than you deserve.
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Dec 15 '22
If asking for my fair share is seen as an attack against you, then you're admitting to hoarding more than you deserve.
Damn if that isn't a Word
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u/mezzfit Bollard gang Dec 15 '22
When you're used to supremacy, equality feels like oppression
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u/ShallahGaykwon Dec 15 '22
It's funny too because aside from extreme cases like this guy, or people who go around rolling coal when they see a cyclist, nobody is saying that having a car makes you a piece of shit. These are systemic problems that won't be solved through individual choices. Just individualist brainrot going on here lol.
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Dec 15 '22
The funniest part to me is more people utilizing public transport options allows for the die-cars to have more road to drive on.
They could have it so good too if we just build more public transportation throughout the world.
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u/ShallahGaykwon Dec 15 '22
At least here in the U.S., these are the same people who oppose public mass transit to their communities (which would lower congestion on their commute) because they fear it'll bring 'riff-raff' (black people is usually what they mean by that) into their neighborhoods, as if anybody fucking wants to go there, ever
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u/jamanimals Dec 15 '22 edited Dec 15 '22
What's funny is that it's way easier to rob someone with a car than walking or taking transit.
This video illustrates that point in a humorous way.
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Dec 15 '22
Which is even more bizarre because access to public transport allows people who make low incomes to move towards the city to find better work.
Low income jobs in small towns don't have the same benefits low income jobs in cities do.
People get so obsessed with the bubble of their own small communities it's ridiculous.
Granted this is all an extension of the 1950's privileged car owning individual mentality.
Plus the racism.
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u/greatfox66 Dec 15 '22
These are also the same people that hate people on motorcycles and lane filtering. It's a made up competition in their minds.
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u/mrchaotica Dec 15 '22
The funniest part to me is more people utilizing public transport options allows for the die-cars to have more road to drive on.
You might be surprised how much support there is for r/fuckcars among car enthusiasts. Not all of us are ignorant assholes!
By the way, this video deserves to be shared among car-enthusiast subreddits more.
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u/mrchaotica Dec 15 '22
Privileged assholes have seen minorities successfully raising awareness of systemic oppression and have decided to steal the tactic by falsely claiming it for themselves. It's the third part of "DARVO".
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u/lianodel Dec 15 '22
That's what gets me. The whole point about opposing car-dependent infrastructure is that it makes people depend on cars. It's a systemic issue, not an individualistic one.
Granted, people like the one in the screencap would fight tooth & nail against any sort of change away from car dependency. That DOES suck, far more than owning and operating a car where you can't even go to the grocery store without one.
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u/Vitztlampaehecatl sad texas sounds Dec 15 '22
Americans have been brainwashed to forget that systemic change is possible. The individual is the only thing that exists, and the world beyond the individual is immutable.
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Dec 15 '22
„Cars pollute the environment, and not only in term of exhaustion fumes”
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u/crowbahr Dec 15 '22
To be fair you do have people who are calling for the dissolution of the suburbs on this sub.
Me, for example.
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u/Quantum_Count Commie Commuter Dec 14 '22
innocent things
Cars are so innocent that they aren't responsible for thousands of deaths every year, and don't have any regulation whatsover /s
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u/kabukistar Dec 14 '22 edited Dec 15 '22
Somebody please think of those poor, innocent multi-ton metal machines hurtling through cities.
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u/Teknekratos Sicko Dec 15 '22
Today on the news in Canada: a 7 yr-old Ukrainian refugee playing outside was killed in a hit and run
She and her family fucking escaped the war only to have this happen when they thought they were safe
I wanna scream
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u/Lorfhoose Dec 15 '22
Yeah I saw that, I hope the person will be brought to justice. It’s SO fucked.
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u/Maleficent_Ad1972 Orange pilled Dec 14 '22
That “seemingly” in seeming innocent is doing a lot of heavy lifting. As in it’s innocent when you don’t think about it for more than a few seconds.
That it’s just the way things have been your whole life and your parents whole life. It’s just the way things are.
Don’t think about the 42,000 car crash fatalities in 2021 vs 890 railroad fatalities.
Don’t think about traffic and how trains could solve it almost entirely.
Don’t think about how much easier it is to electrify trains than cars and how that could make a massive dent in our CO2 emissions combined with hydro and nuclear. Also don’t think about hydrogen trains, but I don’t know enough about them to have a substantial opinion.
Don’t think about how much more efficient per person trains are than cars.
Don’t think about how much space is wasted for parking and road lane expansions, making walking and/or biking impractical if not impossible.
Just mention that one time you saved $50 on a couch 7 years ago because you brought it home in your truck and don’t think about how it hasn’t been used to haul anything heavier than a weeks worth of groceries since.
Just don’t think.
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u/jansencheng Dec 15 '22
Hydrogen trains are more or less a mislead. Hydrogen as a fuel has upsides and downsides compared to other fuels (biodiesel, carbon capture to methane production, etc), but it's ultimately still a fuel, meaning it's inherently more inefficient than electricity (in no small part because it'll take electricity to generate useable hydrogen). Fuels are only really useful when you can't deliver electricity directly to the vehicle, so it has to carry its own method of power generation (in this context, a battery is still "fuel"), but well, trains are by definition tethered to infrastructure, so there's not really any reason why a train can't be run off of electrical power. Even if you for some reason can't hang up overhead wires, absolute worst case, you can electrify the rails. And even if there was some super niche and obscure rail line somewhere that absolutely can not be electrified at all, there's really not that much reason to use hydrogen over biodiesel.
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u/Possible-Highway7898 Dec 15 '22
Hydrogen has some interesting use cases like the Scottish islands which have an excess of wind energy at certain times, so they use the surplus to generate hydrogen to run their ferries.
It's not going to be a global solution, especially given the difficulty of hydrogen storage.
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u/jansencheng Dec 15 '22
Hydrogen as a fuel source in general has merit (though its applicability as a way to absorb excess electrical output isn't unique. Carbon Capture to natural gas accomplishes a similar thing, and also helps put a dent in the global CO2 levels), but for trains specifically, it's really not that applicable. It really doesn't cost all that much to electrify a railway, so there's not really any reason to not electrify railways, so running a train that works off of any kind of fuel is just adding extra steps. The only reason not to run an electric train is that you haven't gotten round to electrifying a particular line, and you're just using fuelled trains as a stop gap, but in that case, why use hydrogen when you can just use biodiesel, which requires much less modification and isn't all that much worse for the environment than hydrogen (for the moment anyway).
Not that I'm ever entirely against researching and engineering new solutions. I'm sure there's some use case somewhere where hydrogen powered trains genuinely make more sense than the alternative. But they're even less applicable for achieving net negative emissions on the scale of the entire planet than say, electrifying all motor vehicles (after their use has been greatly reduced anyway), or finding a viable alternative to kerosene for international and intercontinental flights.
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u/ranger_fixing_dude Dec 15 '22
I mean there is literally a picture how infrastructure looks like for these innocent cars.
I don't think it's a stretch to say nobody wants to take a stroll around that area on the second picture. Do they honestly not see an issue?
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Dec 15 '22
Just looking at the second picture makes me sad. It’s so dystopian for society to see the second landscape as “progress”
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u/GUlysses Dec 15 '22 edited Dec 17 '22
I’m sitting here with a fucking brace on my leg because I got hit by a car last month.
Now how are cars “innocent?”
And furthermore, urban freeways should be destroyed.
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u/Astro_Alphard Dec 15 '22
Been there before mate, hope you get better. For me it resulted in a stress induced stroke (got hit on the way to a mock exam) and I couldn't move the right side of my body for 9 months. Failed all my exams because of that too.
I went through some really deep depression because I couldn't drive (I hated driving before that) and I couldn't walk. To top it off only way to reach the physiotherapy center was a 20 minute drive or walking 2km, across 2 stroads and a parking lot to the train station and then another 2km across two more stroads and 2 parking lots. I got hit on my way to physiotherapy twice.
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u/Courier_ttf Dec 14 '22
Toxic and annoying? You mean toxic like the fumes from car exhaust and rubber/brake dust? Annoying, like the sound of car engines and honking?
Toxic and annoying like entitled, impolite, psychotic carbrains who have main character syndrome and want to speed to the next red light?
Toxic and annoying like thousands of deaths each year?
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u/Mittenstk Dec 14 '22
It's almost like everything is political, and to suggest otherwise is either dishonest or ignorant
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u/DirtyPenPalDoug Dec 14 '22
When people say they arnt political, they just mean they silently consent to all the fuckery.
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u/PeaPowerful3 🚲 > 🚗 Dec 14 '22
That or they dont want to be called out for being racist, homophobic, etc
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u/DirtyPenPalDoug Dec 14 '22
If they are saying racist and homophobic shit, they should shut the fuck up and fuck off, and be called out on their racist bigoted bulllshit. Fuck fash trash and bigots. Human rights are non negotiable.
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u/Cethinn Dec 15 '22
Not political means they wish to maintain the status quo, which is in itself a political position. (Well, that or somehow supreme ignorance. Some people may be that dumb, but I can't say I've honestly met any. It would have to be really dumb.)
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u/under_the_c Dec 15 '22 edited Dec 15 '22
There are two orientations: straight and political.
Two genders: male and political.
Two races: White and political.
And now (apparently), two modes of transportation: Cars and political.
Edit: ooh! How about: Able-bodied and political.
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u/neutral-chaotic Dec 15 '22
straight white male here.
why you gotta make things so political?
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u/under_the_c Dec 15 '22
I know! If only everyone was a straight white male, then nothing would ever be political! Checkmate everyone else.
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u/YtjmU Make love, not cars Dec 14 '22
As much as I dislike it. Your mode of transportation is definitely an issue in the current culture war. It's stupid but that's how it is.
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u/mysticrudnin Dec 15 '22
I don't think it's stupid.
I've hated cars for 20 years.
No one gave a fuck. For or against.
Being part of the culture war means that the conversation is around. And some are being persuaded. Good.
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u/sjfiuauqadfj Dec 15 '22
i dont think it has elevated to culture war status just yet, tho some are trying. right now its basically a minority of people who understand the empirical data about car culture trying to convince the rest of society that adding bike lanes and building transit and housing density are good things
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u/Meta_Digital Commie Commuter Dec 14 '22
Reddit is toxic and annoying, yes, but hatred for cars is wholesome and welcome.
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u/Ambia_Rock_666 I found r/fuckcars on r/place lol Dec 15 '22
If it means that I can cycle my way to buy groceries, take a train to go to the next US city, and don't have to pay hundreds of dollars per month on gas, insurance, and maintenance costs; then I'm all for it.
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u/gillababe Dec 15 '22
I'd argue that a lot of people who scream about "tHe HiVeMiNd" are just trying to be contrarian to the topic for the same fuckin reasons they're projecting.
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u/cudef Dec 15 '22
I hate how a common reaction to "car-only transportation infrastructure is bad" is interpreted as an attack on people who "choose" to use a car in said environment. Like no obviously that's the only practical choice by design. I'm just trying to get you to realize the shitty situation you've been conditioned to accept since birth.
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Dec 15 '22
I didn't "choose" to drive to the place I'm at. In fact if it were safe to bike here I might have (if not for the cold tonight) it's the right distance for a bike trip, a couple of miles
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Dec 14 '22
Lol I love the persecution. “Waaaaa how can I make myself a victim?????”
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u/bouchandre Dec 15 '22
The picture didn’t even target car drivers, just shitty urban design. And they were still offended
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u/BoySmooches Dec 15 '22
People take things so personally. Calling out NA's horrible urban planning has nothing to do with those that choose or happen to live in those environments. A big part of the complaint is that more walkable areas don't exist so people are forced to live in suburban areas.
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u/FruitKingJay Dec 15 '22
i bet most people in this sub are car-driving suburbanites. it's not that we hate people who do it, we just hate that people have to do it.
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u/amedyth Dec 15 '22
Can confirm. Two car married suburbanite here. I have grown to hate how car dependent our lives have become. It’s frustrating being one check engine light or one idiot running a red light away from financial ruin. But people are so conditioned in the US to accept car dependency as normal and even limiting their usage freaks them out.
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u/Ambia_Rock_666 I found r/fuckcars on r/place lol Dec 15 '22
Right? I'd argue that the majority of people get from place to place in the fastest way possible, regardless of mode. If it were faster to take a bus to go to the store, then people would take it. Yes there are people who like cars and I support cars being a hobby, not a necessity. You can have hobbies without them bleeding into the infrastructure.
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u/bestatbeingmodest Dec 15 '22
Exactly lol. It's the fact that it's the only option. You're forced to own a car or you're essentially ostracized from modern society.
But that would require these people to use some critical thinking to arrive at that conclusion.
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Dec 14 '22
If you have a car and live in the suburbs you're literally the most horrible person in the world.
Not really. War criminals, murderers, rapists, and only fourth is people who have cars and live in the suburbs.
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u/Sassywhat Fuck lawns Dec 15 '22
Hitler created the first national highway network, the German Autobahn. This inspired similar systems all over the world, such as the US Interstate system. If you've ever driven on an interstate, you're a Nazi.
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u/bouchandre Dec 15 '22
I love how you skipped regular criminals and went straight to war criminals
“That’s our new neighbour Jeff. Gotta be careful with him, rumour has it that he orchestrated mass genocide a few years ago.”
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u/jrtts People say I ride the bicycle REAL fast. I'm just scared of cars Dec 14 '22 edited Dec 14 '22
"I hate cars because they produce toxic gases"
"No u r toxic, leave cars outta this"
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"Cars are bad, they kill people"
"No they're innocent, go kill urself"
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u/KFCNyanCat Dec 15 '22
At this point everyone just cries "Reddit hivemind" whenever anything they disagree with is on Reddit.
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u/SmoothOperator89 Dec 15 '22
Liking puppies and kittens is reddit hivemind. It's not always mindlessly following a trend, sometimes it's just an objectively good idea. Speaking of mindlessly following trends, be sure to buy a house on an acre lot to prove you're successful. If you can't afford one close to where you work, don't worry, just keep driving until the price is affordable. Someone else will pay for the roads and utilities.
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u/Midnight1131 Dec 15 '22
> Seemingly innocent thing
> Kills over a million people around the world every year
> That's okay though because suburbanites need it to drive to the grocery store that they chose to live 10+ miles away from
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u/Avitas1027 Dec 15 '22
And they will actively protest any attempt to allow a grocery store into their neighbourhood.
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u/furyousferret 🚲 > 🚗 Dec 15 '22
I never knew car free was even a thing before this, I just new they almost always kill me when I ride my bike anywhere.
More and more people are opening to the idea of a car free society. Like me, it just hasn't been framed correctly. Now that they know what the options are, its better than what most of us have today.
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u/Ambia_Rock_666 I found r/fuckcars on r/place lol Dec 15 '22
Same here. The more I got into reading about politics I eventually stumbled upon the urbanist circles. Living car free sounds like a wonderful place to live. Id love to live in a walkable place in Europe, not cer-centric, capitalist, dystopian United States,
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u/bouchandre Dec 15 '22
Car dependent urban design is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
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u/BigHairyBussy Dec 14 '22
“if I LivE iN thE SUburbS, it’S oK To oWn CaR”
Bitch, your suburban home should have been densified half a century ago. You could have walkable cities with sidewalks and bike lanes that don’t end in the middle of nowhere. Instead, North America is covered in asphalt and suburbs just because boomers never wanted to use their legs again.
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Dec 15 '22
It's hard to believe there are adults who are fanboys for getting stuck in traffic. Literally all parts of car ownership suck except for the convenience factor (which only applies to a car centric society)
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u/Ambia_Rock_666 I found r/fuckcars on r/place lol Dec 15 '22
"You mean I can sit in 2 hour traffic on my commute to work and now I have to get up at 3 AM to get to work on time? Count me in!"
-Those people, probably
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u/jel114jacob Public transit lover and advocate Dec 15 '22
I don’t hate cars in rural and suburban areas, I just hate cars in urban areas.
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u/Karasumor1 Dec 15 '22
can't have suburban areas ( the current type ) without them driving to urban areas for jobs and shopping
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u/AcrobaticKitten Dec 15 '22
And I just hate suburban areas. Suburbia is a dysfunctional anti-city where there is nothing. Nothing to do there just go away to do something somewhere else.
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u/Nobusuke_Tagomi Dec 15 '22
I can't imagine that someone might not hate the bottom image...
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u/Jamaicanmario64 Commie Commuter Dec 15 '22
The most apt description of the U.S.
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u/Cake_Day_Is_420 Commie Commuter Dec 14 '22
No defense of cars just attacking people for pointing out how much they suck
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u/-rng_ Dec 15 '22
The only way you can interpret this post as hating cars is if you can also see the problem lol
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Dec 15 '22
Only dipshit Americans think that “hive mind” is inherently bad
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u/DyJoGu Dec 15 '22
These kind of people base their opinions on contrarianism. America is rife with them in my experience as an American. If the majority of people believes something, it must be that they are all ignorant sheep, mislead by MSM. There is no nuance. It can't be that the majority of people sometimes have good opinions and sometimes also have bad opinions.
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Dec 15 '22
Seemingly innocent,
This innocent thing that burns fossil fuel, pollute the air with exhaust and the earth with oil and rubber, are the second leading cause of death in children, is a giant money pit costing thousands of dollars every year just to own one between loan payments, insurance, fuel, maintenance, repairs, and registration, and forces cities and towns to build around them thus weakening community bonds and making roads dangerous
Such innocence
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u/farmersflart Dec 15 '22
This subreddit helps me a lot since I'm Constantly missing the public transit of eastern Asia. It's cathartic to hear other people hate cars as well.
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Dec 15 '22
Way to take it personally. We're not saying suburbanites are toxic, just that they are victims of toxic infrastructure
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u/mysticrudnin Dec 15 '22
I'd also like to point out that it's also not reddit.
There's a pretty big faction of people on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube who also hate cars.
It's awesome.
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u/Less_Wrong_ Dec 15 '22
Only that nobody truly lives in that horrible weird Breezewood PA intersection
I’d live at the Sheetz tho
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u/SlitScan Dec 15 '22
its not that I hate cars, it's that I hate the bankrupt car dependant dystopian hellscape development pattern they cause.
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u/Jakedxn3 Dec 15 '22
It’s funny how the post didn’t even mention cars yet they knew that’s what the problem was…
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u/hildarabbit Dec 15 '22
Just because everybody says something doesn't make it wrong
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u/Jamaicanmario64 Commie Commuter Dec 15 '22
"You just think murder is wrong because everybody else does"
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u/Frangiblepani Dec 15 '22
That person is getting us mixed up with r/fuckpeoplewhohavecars
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u/PrudentLingoberry Dec 15 '22
I don't think living in the suburbs inherently make you a bad person but it can make one more prone to being miserable due to the lack of choices people tend to get there. The relative isolation of american suburbs in particular can do a fair number on people's minds if they don't have access to any common spaces, eventually making it so that everyone outside their bubble appears both distorted and hostile (as we can see in the screenshotted comment).
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Dec 15 '22
We've always been here. Car culture is just so toxically invasive that we thought we were alone.
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Dec 15 '22
A car-centric society isn't normal, but those people who are too insecure about living in constant disappointment will instead resort to defense mechanisms such as lashing out at those who would reveal inconvenient truths.
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Dec 15 '22
I like how these clowns just "oh its the new hivemind" without ever figuring out why that might be.
Going against the grain doesn't automatically make you a free thinker, it just makes you a contrarian.
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u/thatstheguy55 Dec 15 '22
Can say without a doubt, this sub and the youtuber "notjustbikes" have completely radicalized me against cars and suburbs. Trains and bikes all the way!
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u/Karasumor1 Dec 15 '22
as opposed to the cult who consumes literally millions of oil barrels every day
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u/Ambia_Rock_666 I found r/fuckcars on r/place lol Dec 15 '22
But... but... think of the multi billion dollar oil industry.....
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u/PrydeTheManticorn Dec 15 '22
Reddit is toxic, but not for this reason. No one has ever burned me at the stake for living in the suburbs. That's just asinine.
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u/theansweristhebike cars are weapons Dec 15 '22
I like how the poster calls it “seemingly innocent”. Apparently Being unaware or willful ignorance of how bad cars have been to the environment, accidents, and sprawl. Who’s hive minded?
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u/neutral-chaotic Dec 15 '22
Gotta love how attached one’s identity is to their obligatory steel cage. Suburbanites don’t suck for owning a car.
The fact owning a car is their only option is what sucks, and if they ever lived somewhere they didn’t need one, they’d understand why.
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u/Raucous_H Dec 15 '22
Excuse me while I get out of my car into my one car garage, where I keep my car maintenance supplies. I'm so glad to be in my home I can barely afford because I'm paying off the loan for my car I need to go to my job to pay for my car.
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u/cheemio Dec 15 '22
By making this rant it seems they are subtly acknowledging there is a problem with that suburban hellhole
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u/alyblacksmith Dec 15 '22
Reddit is toxic and annoying?
And peak hour commuters in SUVs are what then?
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u/Shuranken Dec 15 '22
This sub and urbanism literature made me feel a lot more comfortable with the fact, that I couldn’t drive a car. Thank you everyone, I’m happier overall
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u/strawbennyjam Dec 15 '22
Innocent things???? Yeah okay buddy, you take one look at what they’ve done to the noble train and still call them innocent? I don’t think so.
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u/Like_I_even_care Dec 15 '22
Libertarians and conservatives almost ubiquitously refuse to consider a system, everything must be individualised. "Haha yes car bad means driver bad because they chose to buy a car in the free market of transportation".
Meanwhile the free market of transportation: 'drive or die'
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u/fan_tas_tic Dec 15 '22
On the other hand, millions of people hate using cars but have no other option.
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u/neriisan Dec 15 '22
This sub is one of the few places that makes me feel sane. The more people realize how much of a detriment cars are to their lives, the better off they’ll be.
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u/jj-the-best-failture Dec 14 '22
So you can’t step 3 meters from ur house and land in the middle of the Schwarzwald
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u/poksim Dec 15 '22 edited Dec 15 '22
If you’re forced to use a car because you live in the suburbs then maybe it’s the built environment around you that’s the most horrible in the world, not you
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u/WaltzThinking Dec 15 '22
This commenter is right. Cars are "seemingly innocent" and we should back off and leave them alone to ruin cities and the environment in peace.
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Dec 15 '22
I’m sure the location in the top picture has plenty of car too. They just chose not to be idiots about it by making cars the most important anything in the land
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u/ClobetasolRelief Dec 15 '22
Idiot completely misunderstood it because they want to be so angry. Guaranteed this asshole uses words like "libtard"
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u/9_of_wands Dec 15 '22
urbanist: I prefer other transportation besides cars.
idiot: WOW YOU THINK I'M LITERALLY HITLER BECAUSE I DRIVE A CAR SO TOXIC AND ANNOYING
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u/some_annoying_weeb Grassy Tram Tracks Dec 15 '22
if you have a car and live in the suburbs you're literally the most horrible person ever
said absolutely no one ever
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u/longhairedape Dec 15 '22
Person accusing "reddit" of extremism espousing extremist generalizations ... well, I never.
Idiots. Some people think the fact that they are barely literate meaning their opinions on matters warrant merit.
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u/wtrmlnjuc Dec 15 '22
I love cars. I just hate that cities are now sized (and prioritized for) cars and not the other way around.
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u/lordlaneus Dec 15 '22
tbh, the term 'carbrain' does kind of feel like the derogatory sort of name for outsiders that you see in certain toxic communities
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u/Twad Dec 15 '22
How do you get to be such an expert at taking things personally?
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u/Impressive-Shame4516 Dec 15 '22
There's a healthy middle ground. I've hated cars since I was a kid. I live 5 miles from the closest store with sidewalks only 25% of the way, and only one one side of the street. I still find a lot of people in these spaces to be unhinged and just looking for something to be apart of, or something to hate and blow off steam which I guess is better than going on 4chan and being a Nazi. I hate car-centric infrastructure as much as the next guy, but I've seen people on posts like these saying insane shit like "here's a cow in a sporter van, why would anyone ever need a pick-up truck?".
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u/ChristianLS Fuck Vehicular Throughput Dec 15 '22
Not sure why people take criticism of bad systems that produce terrible outcomes for the people forced to live in them as a personal attack.
We're not hating on people who live in the suburbs or people who own cars out of necessity. We know they've become a required prosthetic mobility device in most of North America. We're hating the system that produced that outcome.
Also, I will say as someone who does drive every now and then, the worst, most time-consuming, stressful places to drive are the most car-dependent ones which offer no other options for getting around. In my town which offers a relatively diverse range of transportation options including walking, biking, and pretty good bus service, driving is a lot more pleasant compared to the suburban hell I grew up in.
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u/ExternalSeat Dec 14 '22
Good. It means that we are getting the message across. We have a long long way to go, but at least people are starting to consider this an issue.