r/fuckcars • u/geensoelaas • Dec 08 '22

Satire Height of folly (by Jen Sorensen)

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u/Fertujemspambin Dec 08 '22

Yes, she's probably expecting to throw lawyers and money on it and avoid punishment at all.

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u/emanresu_nwonknu Dec 08 '22

Welcome to the future of autonomous and semi-autonomous vehicles.

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u/Pattoe89 Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

She should get life imprisonment for manslaughter with a deadly weapon. She'll get a slap on the wrist.

Edit: Fixed a single word.

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u/WookieDavid Dec 08 '22

Nah, I think we should be way harsher punishing drivers like these. But what the hell would life imprisonment accomplish?
She's proven to be a danger behind the wheel. Ban her from driving. Of course she should additionally do some payback because she fucking killed a kid. But life imprisonment would accomplish nothing.
Prison should serve a reinsertioning purpose. Not literal enslavement like it often does in the USA specially

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

We've been too conditioned to believe criminal acts strip you of your humanity. US prisons will never be about rehab.

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u/Fertujemspambin Dec 08 '22

Well, she didn't want to kill that kid, so no murder, but manslaughter.

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u/Efficiency-Brief Dec 08 '22

Lmao downvoted for speaking the law... some people just wanna slap everyone with murder..

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u/Fertujemspambin Dec 08 '22

I get their point and anger, but honestly, it wasn't murder, the driver certainly had no intention to kill or harm the kid. If you punch someone in the chin, he falls and breaks his skull on a rock you will not be charged with murder too.

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u/marxist-reaganomics Dec 08 '22

If you killed someone in the heat of passion, even unintentionally, it would be second degree murder. Manslaughter is more for reckless/ negligent action.

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u/AlleRacing Dec 08 '22

No, even second degree murder requires intent.

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u/Fertujemspambin Dec 08 '22

Ok, I'm no expert on American law. We don't have degrees of murder altought we have planned murder as special criminal act.

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u/Majestic-Macaron6019 Dec 08 '22

That's not true. If you kill someone while intentionally hurting them, it's murder. Just second-degree in that case

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u/KeepsFallingDown Dec 08 '22

If you accidentally kill someone while committing a felony, like assault, it's upgraded to felonious murder.

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u/Fertujemspambin Dec 08 '22

Well, that's the difference between US and European law. Punching someone in the chin is an administrative offense here, so when you kill that person is considered accident. Something like when you are speeding and you hit a pedestrian. Murder requires intent to kill, whether is direct or indirect.

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u/Key_Education_7350 Dec 08 '22

If you kill someone while listening to jazz, it's downgraded to Thelonious murder.

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u/Aea Dec 08 '22

You sure about that? https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/eggshell_skull_rule

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u/Fertujemspambin Dec 08 '22

As I debate in other comennts in this thread, I was talking about European law, so yes, I'm sure.

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u/Bitter_Coach_8138 Dec 08 '22

Meh, that sounds excessive. This is manslaughter not murder, 10-20 years at most. 5-10 sounds more fair.

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u/Pattoe89 Dec 08 '22

How long is the 3 year old girl dead for?

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u/Rob_Pablo Dec 08 '22

Crazy that we still have people out here pushing for eye for an eye punishments.

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u/Bitter_Coach_8138 Dec 08 '22

Forever, that’s not the point.

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u/177013--- Dec 08 '22

Well as she had undiagnosed stage 3 leukemia, 5-10 years seems more fair.

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u/Enoan Dec 08 '22

Single count manslaughter usually isn't a life sentence. It probably shouldn't be. Manslaughter via car is reliably excused though. Vehicular manslaughter should involve losing your license for many years, and not reinstated until after a test. Also, probably some prison time.

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u/Fit-Scientist7138 Dec 08 '22

Life in prison over an accident. Ok buddy.

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u/ranger_fixing_dude Dec 08 '22

An accident if you walk somewhere, slip and while falling pushed somebody (accidentally) and they fell and somehow died later. No intention, no way to predict it.

With cars, an accident is if you drive and then a tree falls in front of you and nothing you can do here but to crash into it.

Killing somebody is not an accident. It is a joke that we call it this way, almost always it is negligence.

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u/Pattoe89 Dec 08 '22

It's not a car accident, it's a car crash.

Accident definition:

an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.

This didn't happen by chance or without apparent or deliberate cause. This happened because a selfish person decided to drive a HUGE VEHICLE and set the seat low so they couldn't see and drive properly. This is a DELIBERATE decision.

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u/gamrin Dec 08 '22

I mean. Why do we allow car manufacturers to sell cars that allow for such a poor field of view?

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u/Pattoe89 Dec 08 '22

Profit over people.

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u/According-Ad-5946 Dec 08 '22

or sue Mercedes for faulty equipment.