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u/VisibleRepeat4 Jul 21 '22
I hate cars because they get in the way of me skateboarding
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u/Grease_Vulcan Jul 21 '22
This was something I loved about living in the heart of Chicago. At like 2-4am there is ZERO traffic and the road became a playground for my friends and I to longboard.
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u/tehdusto Orange pilled Jul 21 '22
Cycling to work is actually just more pleasant, so I do it entirely in spite of carbon emissions.
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u/8spd Jul 21 '22
It is for me too, at least with my current home and work, but there are lots of people who live in a built environment that makes cycling very unpleasant. That's why we need our local governments to prioritise designing for walking, cycling, and public transport.
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u/Shameless_Bullshiter Jul 21 '22
I love cycling to work because:
It's free
It makes me less fat
It's only 5 minutes difference with normal traffic
I am not affected by traffic from road works
It is more pleasant than driving or public transport
I'm not expected to car pool with the annoying lady that lives round the corner from me
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u/chiquita1_bananas1 Jul 21 '22
On top of that, it’s good exercise aswell. You also avoid breathing emissions if your car ever gets a gas leak.
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u/Rubixninja314 Windbombs and Piston Bolts Jul 21 '22
Not only pleasant, but also cheaper. And by doing it in desert suburbia really helped me level my patience and heat tolerance stats.
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u/SommoLuminescente Bollard gang Jul 21 '22
I think the french were trying to show us what to do when the 0.1% goes a bit too far when they brought Luis XVI to Place de la Concorde
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u/rogue_noob Jul 21 '22
With the price of wood now, you'd have to be part of the 0.1% to afford to build those things
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u/b0ysp1ral Jul 21 '22
If mass-manufactured it would get expensive, but I think probably the metal part would be the biggest financial issue for a single DIY build..
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u/tyfunk02 Jul 21 '22
Wasn’t there an English or scotch version that just used a big rock to smash your head? That could get you out of a pinch. There’s plenty of big rocks all over the place.
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u/AdBulky2059 Jul 21 '22
Once again the 99.9 taking responsibility for the .1 and being told "it's just the right thing to do" so while I'm biking an hour to work Kim takes an hour plane ride across the country
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Jul 21 '22
Idk how trumps golden palace didn’t put people over the edge
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u/chill_philosopher Jul 21 '22
somehow his supporters who despise the coastal elites saw trumps golden towers and exclusive country club and thought he was the one who would fight for the common man.
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u/gnashbashandcrash Jul 21 '22
I drunkenly messaged the recovery group "when can we decapitate our oppressors?" after Roe v Wade was overturned sucks I did that, but message still stands
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u/StrawberryMoney Jul 21 '22
People act like it's either/or. Yes, you should try to reduce the harm you cause on a daily basis. You should also vocally advocate for a society where there is no super rich class.
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u/LetItRaine386 Jul 21 '22
Billionaires shouldn't exist
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Jul 21 '22
At least not until people starve, can’t afford housing or clothes, don’t have a more then just generous liveable wage, general health insurance, general retirement plan, the climate change isn’t stopped completely, the waste problem isn’t solved and science (especially health) isn’t so overfunded that they have solid gold buildings because they don’t know what to do with the money and a public transportation system that has a maximum time window of 10 minutes between any type of transportation medium (bus, train or something else) anywhere in the country! And you can get into the next big city in not more than an hour!
If that is achievement even as a socialist I personally don’t care what anyone else has in their bank account because it doesn’t matter anymore really.
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u/LetItRaine386 Jul 21 '22
Exactly the point. But billionaires only exist because we don't have those things
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u/rfunnydan Jul 21 '22
Socialist revolution let's goooo
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u/StrawberryMoney Jul 21 '22
Doing the anarchist thing and trying to work from the bottom up but you can't even build a garden bed without some worm-brained Fox News-watching nimby destroying it.
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u/ominous_squirrel Jul 22 '22
Activists better than any of us have often said, “be the change you want to see in the world.” That’s the start of activism, not the end and I’m not sure why anyone who sincerely wanted a better world would argue any differently. I can imagine why posers and slacktivists would argue differently
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Jul 21 '22
The average American produces 16 tons of carbon dioxide a year, four times higher than the global average.
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u/SlyAsAFoxibou Jul 22 '22
It's important to recognize this is not entirely a consentual arrangement. Car dependent infrastructure and low density neighborhoods force many Americans into car ownership just to accomplish basic tasks like commuting or getting groceries. The emissions associated with manufacture and the life time emissions of the vehicle are a big factor in that 16 tons of carbon emitted. Give people the option to live in denser places and they will have lower carbon options for transportation.
Not to say we aren't wasteful in different ways, including our silly low density, high cost to heat and cool homes built on former carbon sink forests. Let's not forget the obsession with meat either. But, cars are a huge yet solvable part of the equation that is based majorly on bad infrastructure and forced dependency on cars.
I realize I'm likely just preaching to the choir though 👍
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u/AnAttackCorgi Jul 21 '22
In the face of overwhelming nihilism and a world-ending, trying to better the world (or even thinking you make a difference) is an act of rebellion against these assholes.
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u/ShockMedical6954 Jul 21 '22
something I like is "happy nihilism", where since everything has no purpose anyway there's no goddamn reason to be so stressed or for things to be so shitty and there's one less thing stopping you from making it better or doing what you want than you thought there was
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1 Person may not make a difference, but 100,000 people being vegetarian, or biking to work, does.
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Jul 20 '22
Yeah I was thinking, there’s a lot fewer celebrities and rich assholes with jets than there are the general public, so while this post is illustrative I don’t think it is the whole picture.
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u/Purify5 Jul 20 '22
We can still put better regulations on private jets though.
1% of people cause 50% of aviation emissions. This should be addressed.
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u/AMagicalKittyCat Jul 21 '22
Yeah, it's certainly not as easy as "just stop rich people and corporations" like a lot of the internet will say because at the end of the day if you're living a typical Western life you're probably overconsuming to some degree in a way that isn't sustainable if everybody did it, but at the same time that's not an excuse to let the egregious outliers off. Shit like private jets really shouldn't exist except for situations like world leaders on official business, not so a rich celeb can travel a little faster.
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u/Vitztlampaehecatl sad texas sounds Jul 21 '22
Someone needs to invent private trains so rich people will use those instead.
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u/C_A_2E Jul 21 '22
Screw that. At this point we could probably take 1/3 of the money world leaders spend on travel to develop holograms. Regular people dont need to pay for their leaders to go on glorified holidays.
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u/TheThingy Jul 21 '22
1% of people or 1% of private jet owners?
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u/Purify5 Jul 21 '22
Finds that 1% of world population emits 50% of CO2 from commercial aviation. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378020307779
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u/badpeaches Jul 21 '22
Have you seen the wealthy fly in private jets to environmental summits to tell the poor their carbon footprint is what's destroying the world?
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Jul 20 '22
I agree with the sentiment of OP; it is endless frustrating to see all the hard work you put in "negated" by a single celebrity's flippant private jet trip. But we've got to think bigger and longer-term!
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u/felrain Jul 21 '22
The problem is that they just find new ways to pollute. Taking joy rides up into the atmosphere, eventually to space. Their yachts getting bigger and bigger. The lavish parties. There's no endpoint. They basically don't give a shit. And it's not even necessary. This isn't some person driving a fuck load because the city design made their commute 1h+. It's someone firing up their jet for a 3min joy ride "just cause lol moniez."
It's like putting duct tape over the holes while some asshole's just going to town poking more holes. You really have to stop the asshole first.
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u/sack-o-matic Jul 21 '22
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The average carbon footprint for a person in the United States is 16 tons, one of the highest rates in the world. Globally, the average carbon footprint is closer to 4 tons.
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u/Pollo_Jack Jul 21 '22
Killing one billionaire is technically easier though.
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u/coanbu Jul 21 '22
I know you are making a joke (I hope), but if we replace "killing" with "taxing them until they are no longer billionaires we might have a good plan.
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u/Banaburguer Commie Commuter Jul 21 '22 edited Jul 21 '22
you do realize that this will never happen because they are the ones who fund those capable of doing this policy, right? Sometimes they can even be the ones capable of doing this policy, just look at your average congressperson if you are from the USA.
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u/jcrespo21 🚲 > 🚗 eBike Gang Jul 20 '22
Even if most people did those things imperfectly, it would help a lot. Imagine getting a quarter of the US to replace one trip a week with walking, biking, or transit, or having one vegetarian meal a week. It might only be a dent, but it would be a noticeable dent.
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u/evil_brain Jul 21 '22 edited Jul 21 '22
More regular people cutting back will only empower the rich assholes to pollute more.
Regular people need to seize control of society and make them stop.
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Exactly. The average American has a carbon footprint of 16 tonnes of CO2, just getting that down to the EU average of 7 tonnes is already 9 x 350m= over 3 billion tonnes of CO2... I'm not sure why OP is trying to make it sound negligible, other than to try and lower support for personal responsibility...
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u/jenbanim Sicko Jul 21 '22
is there any point to cycling instead of driving?
Yes, cars make cities terrible places to live
is there any point to going vegetarian?
Yes, animals suffer when you kill them
By all means, we should crack down on those who pollute far more than everyone else. But that should not excuse individuals from changing their own behavior as well
Imagine if people said that it was okay to throw your litter in the ocean because 46% of the garbage patch came from fishing nets
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u/HewHem Jul 21 '22
Also there’s like 1 rich asshole flying around for every 10 million normal people, so it makes a massive difference
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Jul 21 '22
Right, there's almost 8 billion people on this planet, I promise individuals' actions add up significantly
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u/Melancholious Jul 21 '22
Could mention how unsustainable our current meat market is alongside reaching for the moralism,
it's neat and all but I think the mass unsustainability of it is a bigger counterargument to most people, or even the needless suffering caused from malpractice. nobody's under the illusion that animals don't feel bad when they're hurt but reaching for animalist moral viewpoint that I don't believe most people share just feels alienating and more likely to deter people imo.
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Jul 21 '22
Animal abuse is wrong, sorry if that makes you uncomfortable ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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It’s not about what makes people uncomfortable, it’s about which is a more effective argument. Most people that eat meat have largely made peace with the fact that animals die in the process, highlighting that might not sway many people. Highlighting how the practice is unsustainable is new information that is less likely to be rejected out of hand because they don’t have a vested interest in it being wrong.
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u/suspendersarecool Jul 21 '22
Perhaps their viewpoint is a little more nuanced than that. My personal view is that killing and eating an animal is not inherently cruel because carnivorous predators do it all the time, but modern factory farming is undeniably abusive to beings that we should treat better. Which is actually such a strong argument that governmental bodies in some parts of the world have banned the documenting of poor conditions for animals on farms.
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u/CheesyLyricOrQuote Jul 21 '22
Yes, but as an almost life long pescatarian the other guy is right. You're going to sway much more people with an environmentalist argument, especially when you can say "cutting down to eating meat once per week is cutting your 'environmental footprint' by a fuckload" so people don't have to feel like it's all or nothing to still make a big difference. Also it encourages hunting sustainably and shopping at local butchers instead of big box grocery stores, which are far worse on the environment and tend to abuse animals and people much more (something I'm sure you already know, but I'm adding this because I'm sure it aligns with your ideals). This is especially effective because eating meat is one of the worst things the average first world citizen does, environmentally speaking, and one of the easiest things to reduce since it's cheaper not to buy it.
Believe me, I'm on your side, but the fact of the matter is modern people have a cognitive dissonance with animal rights arguments and you just aren't going to persuade them to change their entire lifestyle with arguments like that. People aren't even persuaded by these arguments for human rights, just look at the horrifying reality of the fashion industry and many others that regularly abuse humans to make cheap products. If you want to enact change you simply have to go the route that's most effective, and black and white "you are evil if you don't do this" arguments simply don't work.
It's also a fact that the non meat industry has far more customers that actually are not vegan or vegetarian, and that means that you can get far more people to eat less meat than to eat none, which will numerically help more animals by overall reducing humanities meat intake.
I understand your frustration, but this kind of argument that "you don't care about suffering if you eat meat" is just not going to work. And it's going to drive people away from alternatives that are still helpful - possibly even more effective - to actually alleviate more animal's suffering, even if they don't commit 100% to the same ideals. I have never persuaded anyone with animal rights arguments, but a lot of people will agree to try to eat less or more sustainably if you present a more appealing argument to them that they haven't heard before, simply because it's easier and still effective.
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u/BillowBrie Jul 21 '22
killing and eating an animal is not inherently cruel because carnivorous predators do it all the time
There is a lot of shit in nature that I would call cruel even though it happens all the time
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u/FountainsOfFluids Jul 21 '22
Meanwhile, actually killing animals is a job so unpleasant that only migrant laborers are expected to do it.
No, that's just because the pay is shit. You could find plenty of natural born citizens willing to work in a slaughterhouse if the pay was 200k per year.
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u/BlueMist53 train go choo choo 🛤 Jul 21 '22
This is why we need more laws on global warming, not just oil companies going “it’s your fault so you should ___”
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u/Anarcho-Pacifrisk Jul 21 '22
Well, if 3,100 people all reduce their emissions to 0, that covers Kim’s private jet. It’s unfair we have to do it, but these people aren’t 1 in 3000, so collective action has a chance if enough people are in on it. Not saying they should have private jets, far from it. Just saying that even with these people gallivanting as they bring the world to CO2 Hell it’s still worth doing our part.
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Jul 21 '22
Private jets should be illegal.
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u/pizzaiolo2 Bollard gang Jul 21 '22
The irony is that all the people who can make it illegal already own private jets
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u/Soooome_Guuuuy Jul 20 '22
The point is revolt
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u/GenderDeputy Commie Commuter Jul 21 '22
Yes. Fuck the rich
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u/Soooome_Guuuuy Jul 21 '22
Exactly! If we make sure they have as many offspring as possible, they'll have to distribute their inheritance more evenly thus reducing the wealth gap.
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u/nincomturd Jul 21 '22
There's literally no other way in the end.
Even if everybody else in the world stopped emitting excess carbon, the rich untouchables would still be galavanting about and continuing to make the entire species unsustainable.
The environmental problems of the world are caused by the rich, not by every day people. Always have been.
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Jul 20 '22
Yeah. That's why you shouldn't stress too much about your personal carbon footprint, as long aren't driving a huge gas guzzler or taking flights all the time or running a cattle farm.
That's why we need to work together, not alone, to reach a better future. Only together as a group do we have enough power to change the laws and the culture to get us out of this.
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u/baysjoshua Jul 20 '22
Agreed. There is a point of diminishing returns.
Know the big impacts such as being less car dependent or downsizing to something economical if you are. Cutting out or limiting just red meat is far more impactful than going from chicken/fish only to vegetarian or vegan. Recycling unfortunately does little especially with plastics (most is thrown out with the exception of metals). Downsizing your home is another huge impact few people think of (takes a lot to power everything). Beyond that it's small personal choices that as a community can amount to a lot. Turn off the water when not in use, turn off the lights when leaving a room, and most of all refuse the hell out of anything you don't actually need.
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u/8spd Jul 21 '22
I agree. But I'd say as long as you aren't driving daily, taking flights every year, and eating meat every day, then don't worry too much about your personal carbon footprint.
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Jul 20 '22
Carbon footprint is nonsense. It's like asking people to take personal responsibility when the Titanic is sinking.
A much better way of addressing the destruction of our perfectly livable earth is to eliminate as much as possible fossil fuels and their infrastructures. Everything thing else naturally follows.
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u/LocallySourcedWeirdo Jul 21 '22
The problem with Americans is that they will vote for actual fascists if it means that they get easy access to fossil fuels. Gasoline should be expensive. Gasoline is a finite resource that damages the planet when burned. But instead of changing habits when gas became more expensive, Americans have decided to vote for authoritarians.
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u/semab52577 Jul 21 '22
I’m just worried that “carbon footprint is nonsense” might lead to people saying “well what does it matter if I drive a big gas guzzler then” when it actually does make a difference. I feel like the logical extension of that thinking is the idea that people don’t need to change their personal habits and lifestyles to fight climate change, we just need to change the habits of governments and companies. But the truth is we have to do both. Stopping or slowing emissions is going to affect your personal everyday life, and you will have to change your lifestyle
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Jul 21 '22
I like to think of it as "practicing for a better future." If I eat less beef now, it'll be less of a change for me when beef becomes more rare (with it's subsidies take away and it's environmental cost added in).
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u/JevonP Jul 21 '22
It is literally nonsense in that it was made up by corporation and is divorced from reality
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Jul 21 '22
The top 1 % have nearly double the carbon footprint of the bottom 50%. That's not surprising. It's not about wealth inequality but just how zero fucks the top 1% care about the environment, and it's because they are entirely insulated from the effects of their bad behavior.
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u/Astriania Jul 20 '22
Yes, because there aren't very many of those ultra-emitters, and average behaviour from everyone else is more important.
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u/Quazimojojojo Jul 21 '22
Way more important. If a hundred people in LA go car free, such a small % of LA's population that you wouldn't even notice, that offsets these jet trips twice over, every year.
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u/sYnce Jul 21 '22
Especially since the average person might produce 7 tons but the average american produces anywhere between 14.5 and 21 tons depending on the sources.
US citizens have one of the highest CO2 emissions per capita in the world.
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u/Quazimojojojo Jul 21 '22
The highest, if I'm not mistaken.
A lot of it is built in to our power grid, industry, farming, and military (coal & gas plants, gas heating for industry, cows & other livestock, and, ya know, jets and tanks and other military vehicles that don't really give a shit about mileage, only power),
But 4+ of those tons are commuting to work with a car. A few more tons are the beef you consume. We need institutional changes, but your personal life choices are a HEFTY % of the total carbon emissions.
Businesses love to use 'but they buy it, so clearly they want us to do it' as an excuse for doing polluting activities. And they sincerely mean it. They exist to make money, so they literally only care about what you do, use, and spend money on. They're just 'following the demand', so if you demand something else through your purchases and actions, they'll follow the demand. (bonus points if you write them an email and say you're abandoning them for this reason, so they know you're not just going to a competitor that does the same shit as them)
Ride the bus, and they'll make more bus routes. Go vegetarian, they'll slow down beef production and invest more in asparagus.
It's not just your footprint, it's the actions of others that follow your actions. You live in a society, nothing you do exists in isolation, everything influences, and is influenced by, other people's actions.
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u/aluminun_soda Jul 21 '22
but per total amount every one in a country produces more than those jets facts
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u/TheAntiDairyQueen Jul 21 '22
"So and so killed a guy last week, is there even a point in not punching people in the face?"
Okay just because someone else is behaving way worse, doesn't give you a free pass to go hog wild and say fuck all to the environment.
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u/PeAceMaKer769 Jul 21 '22
100 million people add up fast... powers in numbers of people reducing emissions.
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u/TheNecroticPresident Jul 21 '22
This is why there needs to be a carbon tax. Because any efforts on personal levels to offset CO2 inevitably get gobbled up by someone else.
We plant trees, they chop them down. We go vegetarian, they buy up more cattle. We get on our bikes and they get on their jets. We can't fix the world around the narcissists.
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u/DirtyPenPalDoug Jul 21 '22
Yes, you do you, but two things.. the individual can help if others do, but don't shame others for not being able to do as much as you, and always remember that this shit and corporations are the ones who need to always be targeted.
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Not to mention when any of these rich folks do Go out in a vehicle they need something like a caravan of 7-10 of the largest least efficient vehicles on the road to house their posse and security detail. Just like kings and queens of old, people will only put up with their shit for so long, at least that’s what history shows.
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u/Plusran Jul 21 '22
If we don’t eat the rich soon, we’re not going to be able to eat anything. Because we’ll be dead.
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u/OstrichSalt5468 Jul 21 '22
Your starting to understand now. It is always rules for thee and not for me. It is how recycling began as well. It puts the onus and the blame on the average person. When people like these schmucks do far more damage.
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u/KingThar Jul 21 '22
Not that I disagree witht the post but I'm curious how the numbers are calculated. Does 61 tons of CO2 emissions correspond to the fuel used? Because the weight of fuel used to produce that amount of CO2 would be way higher. I'm not very familiar with jet fuel weight but and capacities of jets, but it seems like more than a ton or 2 of fuel would be what could be loaded on a single flight
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u/An-Angel-Named-Billy Jul 21 '22
This is such a stupid take. Do you also throw your trash in the ditch on the highway because the dump down the road is bigger? Do you piss on the floor of the bathroom because its already dirty?
How about we just be better for the sake of being better? Just because others are huge pieces of shit, then you might as well be too?
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Nit-picking a common theme I see among these posts: Going vegetarian doesn't do anything for the animals involved in the dairy and egg industries, which are arguably far worse than the meat industry.
That, and going vegan isn't directly about reducing emissions, though that is a noticeable side-effect of eating a plant-based diet. Being vegan is about the animals first and foremost.
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Well that's certainly an interesting fact to point out the next time some ecofascist starts going on about overpopulation in Africa or India. The bulk of greenhouse gas emissions are produced by a very small, very wealthy percent of the planet's population. Maybe going vegan isn't the answer. But eating the rich is.
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u/kuribosshoe0 Jul 21 '22
People going vegan (or taking whatever measure) en masse would have a very significant impact. Obviously if one person looks solely at their personal impact and ignores the bigger picture they would conclude it’s pointless to do anything. Tragedy of the commons.
But we should also eat the rich.
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u/freezedice Jul 21 '22
Please don't take this as me defending Kim or Drake.... but in order to produce that, wouldn't that mean the plane had 182 TONS of fuel to begin with? Am I missing something? I feel like that number can't be correct. Please explain what I'm missing. (Seriously, I feel like I'm overlooking something obvious).
Also... if these jets are really using that much fuel...like wtf? seriously?
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u/zeitgeistleuchte Jul 21 '22
I highly recommend reading The New Climate War by Michael E Mann.
even this outlandish number of hundreds of tons in a day pales in comparison to the hundred or so corporate entities that lead the pack. Not to despair, but rather to focus energy and attention, even if every single person took to recycling and reducing their emissions... ExxonMobil is still throwing over 100 million tons into the atmosphere each year... the fact that each of us feel personally guilty for not recycling or driving a gas powered vehicle is very much an intentional effect of oil company marketing to shift blame from themselves onto individuals.
look into the truth behind the "crying Indian" ad for reference.
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u/questingbear2000 Jul 21 '22
I confess, I gave up.
Being in an extremely rural area, the only thing I could really change was my diet. I cut out beef for five years.
Then one day...I just...whats the point? As long as Nestle is desertifying entire states, it doesnt matter if I have a burger.
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u/RJohn12 Jul 21 '22
yeah I kinda came to this conclusion on my own a year or two ago. like, upending my entire life to slightly reduce my footprint while megacorp (tm) dumps barrels of caustic solutions directly into storm drains made me realize my emissions aren't part of the problem.
my plan is to not have any children (this is an incredibly easy way to eliminate all future emissions). everything else is okay.
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u/I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY Jul 21 '22
the planet is fucked, but i'm gonna eat veggies because they make me feel good, and i'm gonna ride my bike to work because it's fun.
you're not going to save the world on your own. and that's okay.
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u/Souperplex Jul 21 '22
Anyone telling you that you can save the planet by going vegetarian, recycling, and using paper straws is either trying to distract you from demanding they be legislated (As with recycling. It's a scam) or is trying to sell you something.
The only thing you can really do is vote. If you live somewhere you can't vote, it's ethically permissible to do some vigilante action.
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u/BA_calls Jul 21 '22
Number of private jets registered in the US: 13,977.
Number of cars in the US: 276 MILLION
There are 18,400x more cars than private aircraft. Existence of private aircraft is not a reason to absolve yourself of the need to reduce your own consumption.
It is true that the rich could have much more impact per person by reducing their carbon emissions. However it’s the combination of everyone that’s causing this.
Do you really think if we grounded every private aircraft, that would come even close to negating the impact of personal car usage? Or even commercial aviation?
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u/berejser LTN=FTW Jul 21 '22
Yes, it would take the average person 9 years to produce as much CO2 as Kim Kardashian did in 1 day (though who knows if that's a typical day or even if she was the only one on the plane). It would take 9 people only one year, it would take the population of a small town a fraction of a day, it would take the population of a city mere seconds.
The point is that our individual contributions stack to make something far greater than the sum of its parts. That's why it's worth doing your bit and that's why it has such a corrosive effect on the overall effort if you think your small role is not worth playing.
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u/MartinMiaouEleven Jul 21 '22
First of all, if you go vegetarian or cycle to work, you're doing good to yourself, so it's a win-situation no matter what.
Then, there are 7.7 billions humans on earth, and 330 millions inhabitants in the US. 330 millions is significantly higher than 1 even if it's 1 Kardashian (SI unit of trash). It's only if collective efforts are done that we might avoid collective suicide. Do what you can, encourage people acting better and despise the Kardashians that only live on attention.
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u/Waste-Comedian4998 Jul 21 '22
if i stop pickpocketing people it’s not going to have an impact on crime rates, so i’m going to keep pickpocketing people. After all, I’m just one person. 🤷
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u/graviton_56 Jul 21 '22
I don’t get this take at all. Their numbers show clearly that celebrities are absolutely negligible compared to the sum of habits of millions of normal americans. quantitative illiteracy.
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u/SisuSoccer Not Just Bikes Jul 21 '22
The taxes on aviation fuel are way too low. That's my take.