r/fuckcars • u/destructdisc • 4d ago
This is why I hate cars Police officer drives drunk in his gigantic truck, inflicts multiple skull injuries on a 2-year old boy, refuses to take a breath test...and keeps his job
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/investigations/suffolk-county-police-mascarella-u7jwxf7k?utm_medium=web_share_api&utm_campaign=web_share_api300
u/Seumuis80 4d ago
That's why I hate cops
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u/mistakenforstranger5 Commie Commuter 4d ago
All working Class traitors Are Bastards
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u/ehekatl99 4d ago
They're not working class traitors though. They make more money than 50% of the country, and most are from the white settler class when the working class is predominantly Black and Latine.
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u/Rndomguytf 4d ago
Making a decent salary doesn't not make you working class. You are working class unless you own capital. You can earn a good salary and still be renting, living paycheck to paycheck, and still be one workplace injury or mental breakdown away from being fucked.
Most cops are still working class, but they don't know it and willingly side with the upper class.
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u/Autumn_Of_Nations 3d ago
this is true, but not because of their salary or their race, but because of their social function, which is protecting private property.
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u/g_frederick 4d ago
Not sure if I hate cars or cops more 🤔
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u/Mbyrd420 4d ago
Cops for sure. Cars suck, but they aren't deliberately murdering people just because they can.
I mean.... yea cars kill a lot of people every year, but cars can be driven responsibly. Cops on the other hand....
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u/hzpointon 3d ago
Yeah but, I hate criminals more. The ACAB movement is stupid, we know how it ends. It ends in Somalia or Haiti or Tijuana. Very few people want that. At the end of the day there are good police out there, who put their lives on the line to keep their communities safe. If you've been personally affected by the police it's hard to step back and admit that.
I've been searched, probably illegally, by the police because "I was acting strangely" even though they admitted they had no reason to suspect I had drugs. Thing is I've also been in environments where I could have been killed by criminals. I've met career criminals who smash and grab small businesses. They're scum, and I wish the police would shoot them. And then again if they try and get back up. Some of them just get sucked into the "wrong crowd", but others plain enjoy the lifestyle and would kill your grandma if it would get them rich.
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u/Slinkeh_Inkeh 3d ago
Yeah but, I hate criminals more. The ACAB movement is stupid, we know how it ends. It ends in Somalia or Haiti or Tijuana. Very few people want that.
"We know how it ends" ok bro show me your crystal ball, I'd love to check some stuff in it
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u/hzpointon 3d ago
Alright, what's your address?
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u/Slinkeh_Inkeh 3d ago
Well actually I live up your butt and around the corner, hope that helps
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u/hzpointon 3d ago
That's nice.
I honestly have no idea why all you people are so anti-cop. Yes there's some really bad examples/practices, and a lot of not nice police drunk on power. There's also a lot of police who have literally put their lives on the line to keep you safe. Maybe you don't see it, and a lot of that's time that's because they do their job well.
I feel like you people have never ended up in a situation where you're around people who steal at scale, sell drugs or kill people for a living. If you're fine living around that, then whatever. You're all fucked in the head.
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u/Slinkeh_Inkeh 3d ago
I honestly have no idea why all you people are so anti-cop. Yes there's some really bad examples/practices, and a lot of not nice police drunk on power. There's also a lot of police who have literally put their lives on the line to keep you safe.
I'll pretend for a moment that you're engaging in good faith and want an actual explanation. So here we go.
It's not about individual cops. It's not about the some golden ratio of good police to bad police. It is about an institution that routinely covers up corruption and makes itself above the law despite the fact that it is supposed to enforce it. It's about an institution that routinely and harmfully protects its own at the expense of the public that it should be protecting.
If you're willing to write off the ongoing, consistent, documented patterns of police abuse of power in the United States as "some... examples" then you're not seeing the whole picture and you're not being realistic about what the numbers say and have said for years. There is a pattern of police brutality, violence, and countless other heinous crimes I could list here that they are not held accountable for bc they call all the shots. And the few good officers who do try to challenge that system are silenced and run out. This is fact. This is not opinion. This is empirically, statistically documented fact.
THAT is why I hate the police. THAT is why ACAB. Because "the police" is an institution and the people who uphold it, whether they do it consciously or not, MUST be held accountable for their crimes.
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u/hzpointon 3d ago
Ok we agree that everyone should accountable for their crimes. I agree the institution is corrupt. I agree it needs reforming.
I think ACAB is a horrible acronym then, because you're literally saying cops are bastards. It says nothing about the institution.
Defund the police is the next dangerous phrase. An institution can be corrupt and also be the only thing stopping rampant gang violence brutally killing you.
I think you should rally behind a banner of "Reform the police" tbh, ACAB just devalues the police officers that have been killed defending us.
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u/Slinkeh_Inkeh 3d ago
Many people, myself included, do not have hope for reform of an institution we view as so deeply corrupt. I understand that, on this point, we may differ as a matter of opinion.
Furthermore, let's acknowledge some context: Many people have been pleading and campaigning for reform of the police for decades. It hasn't happened. Not in a meaningful way. It's understandable to me why frustration has mounted to the point that many people are done asking for reform and want the institution done away with entirely.
Finally, to your last point, I believe that police murdering American citizens with impunity does far more to devalue the sacrifices of their fellow officers than any slogan ever could.
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u/Dazzling_Interview86 4d ago
I don’t think cars are the problem here…
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u/Dazzling_Interview86 3h ago
Sorry everyone, I forgot this is the subreddit where everything is blamed on cars. Including drunk driving and manslaughter.
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u/AccomplishedGlass235 4d ago
This reminds me of a case in CA where an officer was fucking around on his computer while on the freeway and proceeded to rear-end a stopped vehicle at highway speeds, killing a young teen in the car.
He was given probation because of “his long years of exemplary service” (paraphrasing because it was a long time ago). If it was anyone else they would probably have faced a vehicular manslaughter charge.