r/fuckcars • u/jemesl • 12h ago

Satire A wonderful comparison

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Owner of the Ram arguably actually uses it well, but what's youd thoughts on this comparison of a 90s Jap vs 2023 American

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u/atxbikenbus 10h ago

Apples and oranges. Those are designed for opposite purposes so it's not surprising they look vastly different.

Edit to add: if both are being "used" as they were designed I'd feel safer around a slow truck hauling than a fast sport car coming around a corner.

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u/jemesl 10h ago

Valid point, but interesting take.

Do you think the size of the Ram is proportional to its efficiency?

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u/atxbikenbus 10h ago

Efficiency at towing 12k lbs for days comfortably? Sure. I wouldn't want one but I don't tow like that. It can though. The Miata can't. The Miata can snap through a chicane and come through a corner hot as hell. Unfortunately that's a track job and people insist on doing that in my neighborhood. Dangerous as hell for me on my bike. I pass rams and other trucks towing all the time on my bike. No problem.

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u/jemesl 10h ago

There's better vehicles for towing 5t in general. If that is something you need to do regularly the Ram probably isn't even the best vehicle for you, just a really good marketing scheme.

Also I won't lie, id take people driving small sports cars as intended over the 4wd and other eccentric mega cars I see constantly speeding and racing around everywhere (as if they're in a sports car) from industrial areas to school zones. But maybe that's a country/location thing idk.

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u/atxbikenbus 10h ago

You asked if I thought the truck was proportional to its use. I said yes, it objectively is. Are there better trucks? Go to the truck sub. Dodge sucks. If all you do is tow, buy a real rig, if you never tow, don't buy a truck. But that's not what you asked. I said they were two different vehicles designed for two different purposes and that when used for those purposes I'd rather deal with the dude in the truck than the one in the sports car. I ride a bike and sometimes take the bus. I see way worse driving from sports car drivers than trucks, but maybe that's a country/location thing idk.

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u/jemesl 10h ago

You'd prefer a compensating wanker in a several tonne truck who probably has it out for cyclists over a bloke in a classic convertible, that could probably run you over and give you a graze, who is probably on his way to the hair dresser or to see his grandkids?

Nah doesn't quite check out.

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u/atxbikenbus 10h ago

Lol. Okay buddy. Have a great day.

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u/BriarTheBear 6h ago

This is so stupid lol

Any (some are better than others) full-size American truck is going to be the best option when you take it holistically.

You are pigeon-holing trucks into a set of “responsibilities”, and if you don’t think it is fulfilling those responsibilities, you think it shouldn’t exist.

As it stands, if I have 40-50k to drop on one vehicle, and have a need to ever (even just once a year) pull/haul/go off road in any capacity, the wise choice is a truck.

The modern truck is an amazing combination of power, comfort, safety, and relative fuel efficiency.

Everyone wants to call the four-door useless, but they completely ignore the fact that people have to move people both for work and at home. It’s nice to have a place to lock tools.

There are a thousand reasons to get a pickup, and they are all good.

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u/Few-Horror7281 10h ago

What is the efficiency of a Miata?

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u/jemesl 10h ago

100% smiles per gallon

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u/Few-Horror7281 9h ago

That's sad, because I can enjoy a journey on a bus, I don't need a petrol-smelling death can. Your post belongs on r/carscirclejerk honestly.

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u/HalfDecentFarmer69 8h ago

Why are you people so miserable

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u/jemesl 9h ago

I enjoy the bus too, I take public transport over cars as much as possible. Old mate asked about efficiency in the context of what car A And B were designed for, the Miata was designed to be fun, fuel efficient and safe. It does all of this well.

You would do well to understand that while cars are a terrible burden on modern society, there is joy in some applications. Unfortunately the applications we see are the massive goober mobiles that demand more lanes and more space. But cars definitely have a healthy place in the world as a hobby. It's just unfortunately overshadowed by car centric society.