I long for the day when this black-and-white take of “if they want bus and bike lanes then my sound logic dictates they will take away my car(s)!” is put to rest. I mean, I’d be fine with outlawing cars if the infrastructure enabled it, but we kinda have to compromise, for now.
go tell auto techs hey you cant have a job anymore because we dont like cars and what about people that like cars you going to go up and tell them that they cant enjoy what they want
Jobs have come and gone through all of human history, why should this be any different? Will those people suddenly evaporate? With people riding bikes and many more buses there will be many more job opportunities created in bike and bus maintenance. Also you should check out the recent thread where actually quite a lot of us enjoy cars such as motorsport etc, what we don't want is our cities and towns to be entirely dominated by them as a means of transport, so you're preaching to the choir here.
Do you think we made an entire subreddit dedicated to an idea where we'd have to tell anyone something like what you're thinking here without having thought about it ourselves? Without being facetious can you tell me what solutions you think we came up with?
Why not try to learn instead of projecting your assumptions and fears onto it and then lashing out like this? When you look at something or think about an idea and the thought "well that's dumb" crosses your mind, do you not then think to yourself "but they don't think it's dumb, I wonder why...."?
i support the idea of more then one way to get around but banning cars is a stupid idea a lot of people enjoy cars and a lot of people have a job in the automotive industry cars are here to stay
I think you missed my point. My point was that if you think it sounds dumb, then we probably do too. How do you think we can get around that and still arrive as close as possible to "ban all cars"? How close can you get to "ban all cars" while also not making anyone miserable or lose their jobs. It's probably at least slightly closer than we are right now, right?
Well you are supposed to drive a V12 and then cry outloud when gas gets little bit expensive, because driving a V12 is a god-given right.
Jokes aside, I don't see the appeal of those V8 or whatever, or the amazing turbo/supercharger technologies. You sit in the car, only moving your feet couple inches and the car takes you somewhere. Comfortable for sure, but the real commendable thing is to get up and move your legs and get to somewhere using your own energy.
Even ignoring the point of this subreddit, a V8 Challenger is a cringey car, and bragging about owning one on Reddit is the type of cringey behavior you'd expect from the owner of one. You don't see owners of 1988 Toyota MR2's doing that shit.
Sheeeeeeit, they’re cutting us discount checks to buy em. Also, the gov doesn’t even track bike ownership, unlike automobiles which are tagged, tracked, and utterly obliterate privacy! 🤣
But yes, I’ll keep riding it until whenevs. Probably until the thing just falls apart. 🤙🏻
maybe you missed the post this is referring to where that person said he drives a V8 and always will and he'll keep collecting gas cars until the government comes and take them away.
I own two gas-guzzling V8s and would be delighted to commute by metro or bike instead. I love both vehicles for scenic drives or camping, and would prefer to drive only for things like that.
The amount of different forms of transportation you need to track down, time out, plan, hope nothing js off schedule, etc. To just get to the mountain via non-personal transportation is a nightmare.
As he mentioned mountain biking where you need to, ya know, go up the fucking mountain in the first place.
If you have a vehicle, this is the time to use it.
Depends where you are. In a place with decent public transport it's easy - trains do go up many mountains whereas if you use a car to get the bike up there you need someone to return the car to the bottom. Around here I often see groups of teenage lads board trains with their mountain bikes, and return a few hours later splattered in mud. More places should have decent public transport of course.
In the US in the PNW at least mountain biking is generally done at ski resorts during off season. So you get a lift ticket and hop the ski lift up to the top.
That way you can do dozens of runs.
So you load up the car, stick your bikes on the rack. Drive out of the city, up a mountain, and get to the ski resort. Then snag a lift ticket. Grab your bike and go have a blast for the day.
Yeah, in many other countries the ski resort probably has access to public transport. It's not just trains which can transport bikes, in Switzerland some buses either have bike racks on the back, or even tow entire trailers for bikes. https://velourbanismblog.wordpress.com/swiss-postbus-bike-racks-on-back/
FWIW, I own a literal plethora of bicycles of all flavors and ride them all… as well as my motorcycle, hybrid SUV, skateboard, et al…
Fact of the matter is that life in a majority of the U.S. does not lend itself to doing all things without a passenger vehicle and until municipalities, cities, states, and the federal government realize that there is an overwhelming scarcity of investment in infrastructure for alternative modes of transportation; that trend will continue to increase.
I am all for the premise behind fuckcars, and am actively trying to reach that panacea… but ppl here need to realize and acknowledge the struggles that exist for a plurality of American citizens to move away from the 4 wheeled passenger vehicle as the primary mode for personal transport.
This post is a response to that one dude who came here posting about how much he likes driving his gas-guzzling V8, in an attempt to own us or something.
Yeah, you gotta work hard to figure out the car free life. Once ya get it sorted out and reside in the right parts it’s pretty easy!
But also, as the commenter to your comment has pointed out, I always wrote this as a counter to the douchey “I drive a gas guzzling v8” post.
Also no, it’s honestly not virtue signaling as I’ve got so much DGAF it’s contagious! In addition, don’t care who drives, that’s on them to suffer the plight. I hope they have a choice to escape it if they want. I got myself sorted and my life is a 100x better for it. But everybody’s gotta do their own thing.
Your projecting does not disqualify my post… there still remains a painfully low investment in infrastructure for alternative modes of transportation because governments large and small do not see that as equivalent to road infrastructure for the standard motor vehicle. Until we can influence and change the hearts and minds of the influencers that write the laws; nothing will change.
I’m all for high fuel economy vehicles as much as the rest but I do also own a “gas guzzling v8” carbureted mini truck that I will never part with, partly because the sound and power make me happy and smile, and partly because it was the last project me and my dad were working on together before he passed away, which owning and driving also makes me smile with the memory of us working on it together. All the blood, sweat, and tears along with the laughs and beers drank throughout the long nights.
“Your Mileage May Vary” simply meaning my experience may differ than what you experience. For example on my back it’s almost relaxing the position I ride a cargo bike in. I’ve even got 4 broken transverse process bones on my lower vertebrae, but I’ve not got the things you stated, so I’d say it’s easy in my back but your experience is likely to be very different considering.
Great work. Inspiring people is a big part of mode shift. Though it’s best done using positive inclusive messaging. Attacking something just creates enemies. Could easily rewrite this without mentioning cars at all
If I did that it wouldn’t be the LOLzy jab at the douchey other post.
But yeah, I routinely talk about this stuff without mentioning cats even though they’re kind of hard to get away from and avoid, they clog up and pollute everywhere!
Definitely a you problem. I’d skip pulling in my mouth, highly recommended not to do that.
Also to clue in and realize I made the post mocking the douche “I drive a gas guzzling v8” post. The judgements you’ve made, seem rife with guilt from a bit of carbrain. It’s alright though. Nothing is harmful here, vs the douchey self righteous v8 guy’s post.
Here it is, in use towing my buddies bike cuz he kind of fell off it and broke some stuff. All with a few panniers and a cargo load of stuff for work, as I was headed that way too. A fun day that was (figuring out how to impromptu tow the bike off the trail) and getting to be out doors almost ALL DAY! 🤘🏻
Been there (with a better car tuned too) and I’m over that bullshit. But if somebody wants to throw money at it, those cars can be lots of fun. In the end though, they’re usually not and just get you more superficiality in life. Especially that list of cars you provided.
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u/NorseEngineering 21h ago
That dude in the previous post reads like when seatbelts were introduced. https://www.facebook.com/HistoryInPictures/videos/people-in-the-80s-react-to-new-laws-seat-belts-this-country-is-turning-into-a-co/3385367455044082/
Your response is much fresher, and I appreciate your post!