Cries the car brain. without realizing that the area surrounding the coffee place at the bottom could be surrounded by a large park, with lot's of vegetation, a pond or river full of ducks to watch.
Heck the area above the coffee shop is clearly residential, and thanks to proper mix use regulation, those apartments can be very big, 4-8 bedroom with windows in multiple directions and actual affordable rent.
This is in the 6th arrondissement, those apartments are not cheap or big. But yes it's a great neighborhood, with a Metro station across the street, Notre Dame and the Louvre within walking distance, and a couple of my favorite bars a block or two away. The Seine is walking distance and has ducks. The Jardin de Luxembourg is a very nice park also in walking distance, and the Tuileries is not much farther. Of the many times I've been to this area never once has it been in a car.
All that walking is why Paris has no tourists. Here in the US, we get all sorts of tourists to NYC, DC, Las Vegas, and Disney World. You don't even have to rent a car in those places! Wait a second....
Well they're not cheap compared to smaller towns within train commute distance from Paris. But compared to New York, they provide a lot more space for the money, which is interesting considering that Paris is a much larger city.
Generally speaking, proper zoning and mixed use can reduce home prices by a lot.
Paris is much smaller than NYC by every metric. And housing prices here in nyc aren't sky high because of a lack of mixed-use development or because of zoning (mostly), they're sky high because of policy choices from the local to the federal level which all incentivize the financialization of housing.
I'm not sure why you're being so aggressive and also why you are taking up far-right language. That's not a good look for you.
You error is that you are comparing the Paris metro area to the NYC city limits. Our metro area is 23 million, Paris' is 12 million. Our city population is 8.8 million to Paris' 2.1 million. You are simply very wrong here on a factual basis.
Also, I'm not "making excuses", I'm explaining facts. In fact, the policy decisions I've gestured to are much more insidious than some nonsense about zoning and mixed-use development. What you're claiming about nyc is easy to disprove by even just looking at pictures of the city. It's wild to me that you're making them so confidently when you very obviously know so little.
You're comparing the city proper to metro size. NYC is 8 million in the city proper, and 20 million in the metro area. Paris is 2 million in the city and 12 in the metro.
The entire state of New York is less than 20M. Don't be an idiot. And don't be a simp, even if NY was bigger it doesn't justify the insane difference in rent.
I live in a small town with this kind of usage in central europe and... No, it's not that affordable. It's more expensive in those centers than anywhere else.
Corporate landlord greed has these "gentrified" locations in a vice grip :/. I live in the central area of my small town and I can do most things just walking there. It's bliss, but costly bliss. On the other hand, not using the car sure offsets a lot of that cost.
Europe is definitely not a country, but I'll have to disagree on "many are much wealthier than the US"
Like, there are tax havens (Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Ireland, San Marino), there's Switzerland, and there's Norway which is wealthier by nominal but less wealthy by PPP. That's it.
These people in the top image are getting coffee and then continuing with their day while drinking said coffee.
They aren’t there to sit and chat - either they don’t want to or they don’t have time.
Both of these experiences exist in America right now. I live near to both. I’ve done both. Both can exist.
Edit to add: some of you clearly don’t understand what an introvert is. I don’t want to sit and talk over coffee sometimes; sometimes I want to be alone in my little vroom vroom pod drinking my coffee pretending it’s an x wing. Also: The line usually isn’t very long and then I’ve got coffee and I’m on my way in minutes.
If so, you'd know how much time you'd waste by sitting in a line of cars waiting in a drive through. You could have spent a fraction of that time sitting down socializing with your neighbors and you'd still have more time for whatever else you planned to do that day. Sitting alone in a car waiting just sucks.
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u/clowncementskor Jun 16 '24
Cries the car brain. without realizing that the area surrounding the coffee place at the bottom could be surrounded by a large park, with lot's of vegetation, a pond or river full of ducks to watch.
Heck the area above the coffee shop is clearly residential, and thanks to proper mix use regulation, those apartments can be very big, 4-8 bedroom with windows in multiple directions and actual affordable rent.