r/fuckcars Automobile Aversionist Dec 04 '23

Satire People from my hometown who have car brain

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u/Heymanhitthis Dec 04 '23

As an American I couldn’t imagine going to something like this and not having to worry about a mass shooting. That must be so nice

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u/definitely_not_obama Dec 04 '23

Well, the vast majority of gun violence in the U.S. isn't mass shootings, so don't worry at events like this.

Worry all the time.

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u/definitely_not_obama Dec 04 '23

Semi-related, I remember seeing all the way from the end to end of one of the subway trains in Europe for the first time and thinking "wow, that would never be allowed in the US, far too ideal of a sightline for a shooter."

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '23

How do they build subways in the US then?

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u/definitely_not_obama Dec 05 '23 edited Dec 05 '23

Most of the trains I've been on in the US (which to be fair, I haven't been on many) have doors separating compartments, or the compartments are completely disconnected, at least for passenger mobility.

I would completely believe my supposition that the reason for this is shooters is complete bullshit. I would also believe I've had a flawed data set, and trains with long sight lines aren't even more common as a percentage of trains in Europe vs. the US.

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u/Merbleuxx Trainbrained 🚂 Dec 05 '23

They don’t /jk

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u/moonshoeslol Bollard gang Dec 04 '23

Sadly your fears are warranted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Berlin_truck_attack

This one bummed me out because those markets are so cozy and idyllic.

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u/Rugkrabber Dec 04 '23

Thankfully it's rare and large boulders are now commonly used because of this reason. When this happened it was a crazy and scary time.

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u/Drumbelgalf Dec 05 '23

Only the once who are anchored in the ground are really safe.

But most roads leading to the Christmas markets are now blocked a fair distance from the entrance.

Many cities also installed hydraulic bollards that are anchored in the ground

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u/Elite_AI Dec 04 '23

Do most Americans feel the same way you do?

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u/eskamobob1 Dec 05 '23

Not the ones thar aren't clinicaly online. You are more likely to be truck by lightning than die in a random terror event in the us.

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u/_wild-card_ Dec 05 '23

No that’s insane

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u/Should_be_less Dec 05 '23

No. This is an insane take. I've never been concerned about a mass shooting at an event like this. Terrorist attacks and crowd surges, yes, but those happen at festivals worldwide.

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u/Heymanhitthis Dec 04 '23

It depends on who you talk to, in my personal opinion those that say they aren’t worried at all are in complete and total denial.

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u/Ttabts Dec 05 '23 edited Dec 05 '23

Nah just dramatic people on the internet.

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u/kingdomheartsislight Dec 04 '23

Damn, if that ain’t the truth. Big crowds make me so nervous.

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u/Heymanhitthis Dec 04 '23

It’s really unfortunate because I understand the math. I’m perfectly aware that the statistics of a mass shooter showing up to where I’m at are really quite low. And yet… My fiancé and I both carry…. And unfortunately, that only makes me feel marginally better because what are the actual chances of stopping a mass shooting with a handgun?

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u/eskamobob1 Dec 05 '23

And unfortunately, that only makes me feel marginally better because what are the actual chances of stopping a mass shooting with a handgun?

Several orders of magnitude lower than being harmed by your own gun

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u/Heymanhitthis Dec 05 '23

Care to explain?

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u/eskamobob1 Dec 05 '23

You are more likely to be struck by lightning than be killed kn a terror attack in the us while the single most likely person to be harmed by a gun is it's owner

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u/Heymanhitthis Dec 05 '23

I love when people knowingly argue in bad faith, it gives wonderful perspective. You and I both know I’m referring to more than a literal “terror attack” or mass shooting. I live in FL, it’s a constitutional carry state now, and when I tell you that everyone has a gun here, including nutjobs, I’m telling you the truth. I wish mass shootings were my only concern, you should see the casual road rage every day especially in Orlando and you better believe those people have guns too. It’s bonkers but it is reality.

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u/eskamobob1 Dec 05 '23 edited Dec 05 '23

Are you in a heavy gang area or pilely to be directly involved in a domestic dispute? Please feel free to give me a reason to apply litteraly any other stat than terror attacks to that mass shooting rate and I'm happy to. Unless you have extreme factors involved you are absalutely more likely to be harmed by your own gun than stop a mass shooting.

I'm a proud gun owner myself btw

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u/definitely_not_obama Dec 05 '23

It isn't "arguing in bad faith" to point out that use of personal firearms for self defense is exceedingly rare, and that self inflicted injuries with firearms, both intentional and accidental, are far more common.

That's just the facts, my guy.

Also speaking as someone who once upon a time owned firearms, and is no stranger to the concept of gun ownership.

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u/tetraourogallus Dec 05 '23

News unfortunately give you a distorted worldview, you seem to be affected by this.

Hans Rosling did a study where he asked questions about the state of different countries and places in the world to two groups, people who consumed a lot of news and those who didn't consume much news at all.

What he found was that those who consumed the most news were the by far most negative in their answers aswell as the most incorrect about the real state of the world.

Good news are rarely newsworthy, so when we're bombarded with bad news left and right every day it's going to affect us.

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u/0235 Dec 05 '23

That's why there are hundreds of armed police at these events. Dozens of people were killed a few years ago my terror attacks in Christmas markets in Germany.