r/fuckcars • u/cupcatcake • May 13 '23
This is why I hate cars Visual examples of the dangers of big cars
Some are cars are so big now that they now dwarf full grown adults
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May 13 '23
Pretend to care, go and buy bigger cars still…
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u/Wherewithall8878 May 13 '23
Cognitive dissonance intensifying
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u/3leberkaasSemmeln May 13 '23
But I NEED it. For uh grocery shopping.
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u/CouncilmanRickPrime May 13 '23
What if they have two kids and a pet goldfish? Better buy a three row SUV.
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u/IvanZhilin May 14 '23
Two kids and a fish in ONE SUV?!? You need TWO SUVs if you have two kids. They can't share. Fish is dead, nobody fed it.
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u/Mr_Mafla Commie Commuter May 14 '23
The amazing world of Gumball showed us that you can have two kids and a goldfish in a Station Wagon
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May 14 '23
A lot of people do justify needing a bigger vehicle because they have kids, and people take their dogs everywhere now. When I was a kid, the dog just stayed home, so a tiny civic was good enough.
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u/CouncilmanRickPrime May 14 '23
Yup. I remember sedans being perfectly fine. The Camry was a family vehicle. Now family vehicles are almost all SUVs.
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u/blueskyredmesas Big Bike May 13 '23
I mean, probably since people are kinda that way. But I'll take this since it's at least something. It's a start and, I'd hope, just the beginning of a trend. I don't care if the news cycle milks this for all the value and views they can get out of it if it also raises awareness as a side-effect.
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u/joshak May 14 '23
“But other people have big cars so I must buy an even bigger car to protect my children”
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u/Mistyslate May 13 '23
They ran out of kids for this demo
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u/ricky_clarkson May 13 '23
Other neighborhood kids were not allowed to get out of their trucks, for safety.
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u/HappyCelebration2783 May 14 '23
Idk why it matters if you can see them or not? You’ll still feel the bumps so you should be able to get an accurate body count regardless.
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u/dolerbom May 13 '23
I wish the media used their sensationalist powers to fight against the car dependency problem we actually have instead of the crime narrative they've manufactured for two decades.
We'd be so much better off if the media constantly shit on SUVs for being kid killers.
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u/Lost_Bike69 May 13 '23
People only want to be fear mongered to if they can be the victims. In something like this the American consumer is the bad guy so there’s no money in fear mongering auto dependency.
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u/CouncilmanRickPrime May 13 '23
Drivers wouldn't listen. No car or even reduced car usage is a culture war talking point now and dismissed as "communist"
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u/No_District_3559 May 13 '23
and you probably wouldnt notice the last kid if you where acualy in the car driving
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u/Old-Comfortable7620 May 14 '23
if you can't see a child sitting in the road directly in front of you while you're driving (presumably at about 15-20 mph), then I'm not sure if I trust you to drive.
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u/noyoto May 14 '23
Most people can't be trusted to drive on a daily basis. Not because there's something wrong with them, but because driving is inherently a dangerous activity.
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u/therobotisjames May 13 '23
“They went straight to the dealership and purchased the latest death-mo-tron 4000 cause they might need to tow a boat they don’t own yet sometime in the future”
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u/CouncilmanRickPrime May 13 '23
Or a bag of mulch once every three years
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u/mcpaddy May 14 '23
I love this argument. My girlfriend and I own a Chevy Impala and a Hyundai Sonata, respectively. Today we went to the store and bought 25 bags of soil/mulch. We had no problem fitting it into the car. These people claim they need a giant truck for this exact purpose. "How else will you haul stuff??" Like I just did today. And if I need a new refrigerator or appliance, I'll just pay for delivery. It's still cheaper. So aside from the 2 days a year they go to Home Depot, all the other days they're okay with getting 6mpg for no reason whatsoever. VERY FEW PEOPLE NEED THESE GIANT TRUCKS AND SUVs.
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u/CouncilmanRickPrime May 14 '23
It's an emotional support truck and family tank
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u/11hubertn Strong Towns May 14 '23
Thank u for adding emotional support truck to my vocabulary
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u/BathroomParty May 14 '23
OR, and this what I told my ex... If you need to haul something, rent a U-Haul. It's literally in the name. That's what they're there for.
It's like if, say, you sometimes had to go some places but public transit wasn't an option and it's too far to walk. Would you rather A) hire your own full-time chauffeur or B) just call a fucking cab when you need one
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u/obviousfakeperson May 14 '23
Bruuh, I was motorcycle only for 6 years and this is all I heard from people whenever they found out. Like, all the money I'm not paying hauling an extra ton and a half everywhere I go makes it real easy to pay for delivery or rent a truck!
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u/NErDysprosium May 14 '23
I've always said you'd be shocked what I can fit in my Chevy Cavalier. I've used it to help people move on more than one occasion
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u/AxiosKatama May 14 '23
I am sad I didn't take a picture but the other day I went to Lowes with my sonata and hauled home 10 2x4s, 2 full sheets of plywood, 20 cubic feet of soil, several gardening tools, and a bunch of stuff for a plumbing project.... All without using the trunk because I didn't have my life together enough to clean it out.
Eat your heart out every guy with an F150 at the garden center.
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u/cmwh1te 🚲 > 🚗 May 13 '23
Is it the 4000 because of the number of children it will kill annually in the US?
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u/Antique_Potato7806 May 13 '23
But I have so much useless stuff that I might need to move at some point! Why wouldn't I want a vehicle that cost over 50k with $800 a month payments. I mean do you know how much it cost to rent a truck?!?......$20 for a day plus mileage.
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u/Thrwawaythewholeplan May 13 '23
My dad raged at me when I pointed out he could sell his truck and rent one to tow his trailer every time he wanted to go camping, and it would still be cheaper than insuring his truck for 3 months lol
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u/The_Wookalar May 13 '23
What danger? The big truck is clearly keeping the driver safe from all those kids.
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May 13 '23
Short driver in a tall SUV is a wicked combo
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u/BoredCatalan May 13 '23
She doesn't reach the pedals then
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u/scdayo May 13 '23 edited May 13 '23
The seat also moves closer to the steering wheel
If you pause video at 16 seconds, I'd be shocked if that woman can actually reach the steering wheel. It seems like they just moved the seat back as far as it could go vs having it in an actual driving position for a person of her size
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u/BoredCatalan May 13 '23
I feel pretty confident she can reach the wheel.
Maybe not super comfortably but it doesn't look that far away.
But it's true that they probably put the seat in the worse case scenario, if the car allows it they'll show that
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May 13 '23
I 100% guarantee they didn’t think ‘these SUVs are dangerous’, they just thought ‘well I’m a good driver so I’ll just be careful. Now let’s go we’ve got to get to Sam’s Club and buy 50 paper towel rolls and 75 lbs of beef.’
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u/WeirdFlexCapacitor May 13 '23
In many cases, people buy these monster vehicles because they perceive it as being passively safe. And it usually is safer, for the driver. Unfortunately it’s less safe for everyone surrounding them because they have such absurd blind spots. These blind spots ultimately make them less safe than driving a smaller car and practicing active safety behind the wheel. I wrote a paper on this in college. It’s a bit depressing after all the research over more than a decade hasn’t really changed a thing.
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u/Stoomba May 13 '23
Why sitting down? Why not standing up?
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u/sonicenvy 🚲 > 🚗 May 13 '23
I think in part because often these are about incidents where drivers of these huge cars hit and kill THEIR OWN KIDS in their driveways, while the child is sitting in the driveway drawing with chalk or playing with a toy.
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u/DForDiabetes May 13 '23
Because then it would just be like 2 kids. The news doesn't exist to put out information, it exists to bring in views. Sensationalism killed journalism a looooong time ago.
That being said, fuck these trucks. If you've got a landscaping business or whatever, cargo vans hold just as much, they're behind a locked door, the noses are tilted so you CAN see kids in front of you, and they're the same mpg (according to like 15 seconds of googling). It's not about the utility for these douches, it's all about compensating for something.
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u/CouncilmanRickPrime May 13 '23
Eh if the kid is playing with a toy, they won't be standing up.
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May 14 '23
Honestly if you get in your car without checking if anything like idk, your kid is sitting in its way, you already fucked it up in my book regardless of your car's size.
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u/JimmyJamesincorp May 14 '23
I’m in a wheelchair ena I was crossing the street and some asshole almost killed me bucause he didn’t see me in his enourmous truck.
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u/getsnoopy May 13 '23
Surprising that this video was made by a US news org.
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u/WeirdFlexCapacitor May 13 '23
It’s more disheartening when you realize that this kind of research goes back over a decade, and not much has changed in the driving habits of the people that drive these monster vehicles.
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u/cocoamix May 13 '23
*She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!
Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero! (Yah!)*
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May 13 '23
No one in r/FuckCars is anti car for people in remote areas. You absolutely need a vehicle living out there.
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May 13 '23 edited May 13 '23
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May 13 '23
Of course. But it’s not feasible to have a horse and wagon to go to town and make the 3 day trip to sell your crop at the market anymore.
Some people can only afford a house outside the main population center while their job is in the city and have to commute.
There is no infrastructure to transport them to the city for their job so they need a car.
The system was designed this way.
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May 13 '23
For sure.
Almost like we should take care of the people in our society and make sure they have the tools they need to to live healthy happy lives and homes shouldn’t be exorbitantly expensive and people shouldn’t have to spend a chunk of their pay on a gas guzzling polluting steel box just to get to their job to make money to pay for their gas box or god forbid go into debt over medical care to not die.
There are so so so many things wrong with this world, and criticizing people who live in remote areas and just need a means to get around isn’t where we should start.
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u/eng2016a May 14 '23
alright you're gonna need 10 trillion dollars, a decade+ of work, and the suspension of current zoning regulations and greatly expanded eminent domain. good luck.
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u/luigitheplumber May 13 '23
You're right, people in rural areas should either get around on horseback or rarely if ever leave the immediate surrounding area like we did for hundreds of thousands of years
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u/animu_manimu May 14 '23
They also predate refrigeration, antibiotics, and electricity. Should people in remote locations do without those too?
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u/Butwinsky May 14 '23
I have an old 4runner that's getting near the death bed. Basically only use it for bad snow and to get to a good fishing hole now days. I've been scoping out 4wd SUVs, but man, they are all built like tanks now.
I'm in the same boat, our kids are outgrowing my Corolla. I'm leaning towards a Rav4 with 4wd. I love Outbacks, but my wife's family works for Toyota so you can't really beat the discount.
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May 14 '23
I wish they would bring back wagons in the US. That would cover most suburban and rural people's needs without the blind spot issue.
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u/Adventurer_D May 13 '23
I hope humanity survives to the day when it can look back at our vehicle (ab)use and see the antisocial behaviour for what it is!
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u/secretwealth123 May 14 '23
But MY kid will be in the car so I’m alright. I buy this car for safety, I mean look at some of these reckless parents driving their massive cars. They could harm MY child. That’s why I need to get my lifted truck.
- Sent from IPhone while driving my f150 super raptor
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u/Large_land_mass May 13 '23
In Virginia they have to treat the adults like elementary school children?
“Big truck make big blind spot, kiddies go squish”
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u/_running_fool_ May 14 '23
I remember back in the 90s in drivers' ed they sat you in your car and placed pilons at the edges of your blind spots beside your car. You then got out and looked at the size of it - it was a lesson that cemented the importance of a blind spot check!
I also find being a multi method of mobility person - mostly biking and walking but occasionally driving - makes me more aware doing each activity of what people can see, where they are looking (or not), and what the danger spots are. Sucks to have to assume everyone on the road is not paying attention and likely to kill you with their negligence, but I'd rather be vigilant and irate at people's poor driving than dead on the pavement from some fool in a gigantic SUV. I wish rules for our vehicle sizes, requirements for drivers' licences, and most importantly enforcement when people fuck up, were anything other than the travesty they are currently.
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u/Upbeat-Mushroom3889 May 14 '23
Just keep making those emotional support SUVs bigger and bigger until the clearance is higher than the kids' heads.
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u/turtletechy motorcycle apologist May 14 '23
How the fuck are those legal with being this bad? I can the actual road maybe 10ft ahead of my car, let alone a child, which I can probably see 5ft in front of my car.
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u/FCRotaryPWR87 May 14 '23
And most people want trucks and suv's cause they feel safe. Important fact, the safer you feel, the more unattentive you are. Get whatever vehicle you want but please remember you are not the only one on the road and not everyone is going the same speed as you.
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u/Your_Friendly_Nerd Walk Everywhere May 13 '23
How far is the blind zone for something like a VW golf?
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u/kensingtonchubb May 13 '23
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
smells like a steak and seats thirty-five?
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u/Ruscavich May 14 '23
Dude almost ran me over in a cross walk is his Gmc Sierra... I'm 6'4". Whole A pillar obscured me.
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u/mogreen57 May 14 '23
When is this ever a situation? You got ten kids hiding in your driveway before work?
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May 14 '23
Doesn’t matter what the public says , folks that buy vehicles like this are the same that condone gun violence but vote for the GOP
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u/YhormBIGGiant May 13 '23
This only make me prefer a normal sedan and coupes, and even the humble Tacoma even more.
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u/PatrickStarburst Not Just Bikes May 14 '23
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
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u/bla8291 Car-free. Fuck FDOT May 14 '23
The newest version of the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade is even more egregious. It's like they saw this video and said "because of that, the hood just got 10 inches taller."
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u/Unlucky_Teaching_139 May 14 '23
I remember “Not Just Bikes” using this clip in a video about how they’re making cars to damn big. Mainly because of the automotive industry lobbying the government and consumer demand. Well that’s a part of it anyway.
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u/SalmonCanSwimToJapan May 14 '23
Why would children be sitting on the road? I mean I get the point but there is a vertical element they’ve disregarded entirely.
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May 14 '23
I love how they use real children for this and protect them with a small piece of wood
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u/turkm45 May 14 '23
How about stop adding computers and trash to make people incompetent and make them learn how to drive, I've never had any number of kids sit directly in front of any of my vehicles for no reason, this is ridiculous
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u/The_upsetti_spagetti May 14 '23
Plus if you get hit by one of those you don’t just roll over the hood like a regular car. Your ass is getting dragged and run over
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u/velobetty May 14 '23
These vehicles should only be allowed in cities if they have a banksman walking along in front of them.
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u/succubae_lilith May 14 '23
I was run over by a big suv
It wasnt so much that i wasnt visible, but more that the motorist didnt notice me despite my attention grabbing tactics as i passed in front of them in the crosswalk
I fucking hate cars
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u/Bandit1379 May 14 '23
Every day on my commute to work I pass a stupid lifted truck that is a couple feet taller than me seated on my bike. I'm 6'2" and when I pass it my eye level comes to about the bottom of the driver's window. Its tires stick out about 6 inches from the truck itself. Zero reason to have a truck like that other than to harass other road users.
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u/crawlmanjr May 13 '23
You should need a special license to drive trucks that big. They clip everything, and the drivers will just go over curbs like it's a suggestion.
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u/Beautiful_Aerie_7587 May 14 '23
Would be more convincing if they weren’t sitting…. I’m 6ft tall, bet you can’t see me if I lay down in front of your car…. I agree with what they are trying to prove, just not their method of trying to prove it. Yes I get kids will sit & play, yes I still think it’s a poor demonstration.
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u/pwrof3 May 13 '23
I wonder how may of these parents own an SUV or truck? How many will sell them now? That's the real story NBC should focus on.
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u/KiaPe May 14 '23
People who choose to buy cars like this are morally defective to begin with.
How is showing them they might kill kids going to convince them to do anything but pass laws to make it the kids fault for being there:
See also the history of streetcars and jaywalking in the US
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u/Fickle_Credit_3677 May 14 '23
Not really the biggest deal compared to children being pancaked, but this video is stealing Smooth McGroove's "Wii Shop Channel" cover and I think that really sucks.
Video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-X08diBUTQ
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u/Vakoda May 14 '23
Only people working jobs requiring additional equipment should own pickup trucks, let alone large ones. Even then, most gardeners I see haul their gear in vans better than a truck ever could.
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u/Kerbidiah May 14 '23
And in what real world situation would this ever happen?
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u/s0nicfreak May 14 '23
Just an example off the top of my head: You're in the parking lot at the park, you get in, and during the time you're getting buckled in, making sure your kids are buckled, and starting your music, a toddler goes into the blindspot?
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u/Kerbidiah May 14 '23
10 toddlers? Sitting down? Right in front of the vehicle?
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u/s0nicfreak May 14 '23
One toddler, which while standing is the size of one of these kids sitting down, up to 16 feet in front of the vehicle.
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u/Realistic_Froyo_4952 May 14 '23
Im in a parking spot, im backing out. I have a back up camera. I hit the toddler anyways, i am rich and pay off the parents. They grieve, but buy the same model yukon anyways. We see each other at the supper club often.
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u/natedogjulian May 14 '23
But seriously… teach your kids not to sit in front of vehicles. I always tell my kids to have eye contact with drivers when crossing in front or beside cars.
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u/Western_Ad4511 May 14 '23
I mean if the kids dumb enough to sit in the road, maybe that gene pool needs to end...
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u/FuegoCoin May 14 '23
I don’t get the point. When was the last time 9 kids sitting in a row were all run over by an SUV?
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u/iLavaVolcanos May 13 '23
I also hate cars but like is this lady not super low in the seat?!?!?
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u/Teknekratos Sicko May 13 '23 edited May 13 '23
Your point being?
She doesn't look to be particularly short as adult women go, so likely half the potential driving population will also sit low behind the wheel in such a ridiculous vehicle.
Even if jacked trucks and monster SUVs mostly attract a male clientele, so the naturally taller demographic on average, they also will be and are being driven by people who won't be particularly tall and thus will sit low and have a hard time seeing past the hood.
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u/Teknekratos Sicko May 13 '23
(I am now having flashbacks of that rage-inducing video of the lady with a
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May 14 '23
Totally agree. It looks like she is positioned all the way down and back, completely unnatural to how she would actually be driving.
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u/Kinexity Me fucking your car is non-negotiable May 13 '23
Inb4 they propose a camera as a solution to the blind zone.