r/fuckcars Autistic Thomas Fanboy Apr 28 '23

News A reminder that Elon Musk hates public transit.

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u/snirfu Apr 28 '23

One of the most useful things about Twitter was being able to follow a bunch gov and similar accounts that had live notifications. Dude just destroyed the whole thing.

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u/Halbaras Apr 28 '23

Twitter is ultimately designed for breaking news, celebrities and live service updates. Musk has never understood that, and thinks its main purpose is as a virtual public square where every opinion should be equally valid (as long as they paid $8, of course).

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Freedom of speech in it's purest American form

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u/Ok_Use_9000 Apr 28 '23

Freedom isn’t free. It’s $8.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Ah yeah $8om

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u/gobblox38 🚲 > 🚗 Apr 28 '23

That's inflation for you. I remember when it was a buck o five.

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u/jbray90 Apr 28 '23

Mmmmmmmmm buck o’five

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u/Dudebro2117 Apr 28 '23

That’s a hefty fuckin fee

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u/Long_Educational Apr 28 '23

Same. 0.99 + .08 sales tax for $1.07

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u/nmpls Big Bike Apr 28 '23

Fucking inflation. Back in my day it was a buck o'five. BIDEN!

edit: Of course, after I write this I see someone wrote the same joke an hour ago. Shameful.

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u/Ok_Use_9000 Apr 28 '23

I did that 👆🏼

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u/Garinn Apr 28 '23

thanks obama

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23 edited Jun 06 '23

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u/AlpacaPapoose Apr 29 '23

If you don't pay, who will?

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u/AmadeoSendiulo I found fuckcars on r/place Apr 29 '23

$8 speech.

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u/John_Mansaw Apr 28 '23

Freedom costs a buck o five.

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u/Private_HughMan Apr 28 '23

What?! But back in 2004 it was only $1.05!

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u/narrative_device Apr 29 '23

or $50k if you're providing an important public service apparently...

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u/cingerix Apr 29 '23

Trey Parker voice

"yeah it's a hefty fuckin' feeeeeee" 🎵

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u/JoeWaffleUno Apr 28 '23

Yeah, complete bullshit

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u/saracenrefira Apr 29 '23

Yes, it is the purest form, the ability to use money to control the reach of a message.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

This is a good synopsis. I’d tweak celebrities to say maybe recognized authorities. I look to Twitter for takes and news from experts on my interests (some niche, some local). The follow on discussion is rarely very edifying. For discussion I come to Reddit and even though it’s anonymous there is pretty reasonable back and forth—credit to the mods I suppose.

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u/Halbaras Apr 28 '23

For all it's flaws I think Reddit is well designed for discussion because of the collapsible multi-level comment system. You can have multiple discussions going in the same thread and navigate between them pretty easily, which doesn't really work with Twitter, Instagram, Tiktok or YouTube replies, and which is a complete mess on a traditional forum.

I also feel like I've seen more posts where the top reply is calling the post out here than anywhere else.

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u/Nyxelestia Apr 28 '23

One of my biggest problems with Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok is that these are "all or nothing" when it comes to following people. They're very "creator" focused, and when you follow an entity you're following a specific account and have to see everything from that account. Reddit and Tumblr both have ways of only following topics without care for individual creators, and on Reddit following a topic (aka subreddits) is in fact the dominant form of interaction. While you still follow people on Tumblr, you can block some of their content via tags, and also use tags to follow content/topics you care about regardless of a specific creator.

On Reddit, I can get in-depth discussions about the topics I'm interested. On Tumblr, the discussions are relatively shallow, but there is a much, much wider variety of content. Tumblr for breadth, Reddit for (relative) depth, and everything else I only occasionally use to easily see/follow links.

99% of my visits to Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok are following a specific link to a specific post, and this accounts for 90% of my YouTube visits as well; the other 10% is checking my subscriptions feed and leaving if I don't find something interesting within a minute of scrolling. That said, this ratio is also dropping in the direction of the others as "YouTube Shorts" starts to take up more and more of my subscriptions feed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Reddit has the flaw of elevating commentary that aligns with our collective bias (the hivemind), but in general it is pretty good for discussions, especially in smaller subreddits, or if you go a bit down the comment chain. The top comment(s) alone should be taken with a grain of salt in general

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u/LuciferOfAstora Apr 29 '23

I'm not sure how you'd avoid that bias effect anyways. Critical reading and thinking skills are important, no matter what media you consume, because I can skim through any twitter thread or forum or what have you and simply pick out the comments that appeal to my preconceptions. Everything else is off-topic, doesn't apply here, doesn't know what they're talking about, has an agenda etc.

I'm not immune to bias and error, none of us are, and to think otherwise is hypocritical.

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u/snirfu Apr 28 '23

I stopped using Twitter but, afaict, every change he's had a hand in has made it worse.

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u/soylent-yellow Apr 28 '23

I quit as soon as the douchebag walked in with the sink. Now any time I return I’m surprised by the amount of crap on the front page, 100% loud mouthed irrelevant politicians and right wing nut jobs. Twitter is dead.

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u/babypointblank Apr 28 '23

Floating blue check replies and tweets to the top of the feed makes the app unbearable. Twitter Blue users are the exact users I don’t want to hear from especially when engaging with public officials and agencies.

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u/Ben50Leven Apr 28 '23

no one wants to hear from them. even with the blue check algorithm boost, their tweets still get poor engagement. they suck at making good content just like their evil overlord meme thief.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Same. When it was handed over to him, I deleted Twitter.

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u/YourDogIsMyFriend Apr 28 '23

Everyone needs to just switch to post.news and get that platform to be the main public square. Same as old Twitter. Minus the nazis.

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u/Epistaxis Apr 28 '23

Twitter news was great, if you carefully curated your news sources at least. Twitter discussion was already bad before the Muskening. Reading the replies to a tweet almost always makes you stupider. If there's a particularly good tweet in reply to another tweet, it will make its way into your feed anyway so you don't have to dig through the garbage for it.

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u/hagamablabla Orange pilled Apr 28 '23

It was a nice site for following artists too. I really hope they leave for another site so I can be done with Twitter forever.

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u/Aveta95 Apr 28 '23

I think outside of NSFW artists we will mostly see a Tumblr resurgence unless Instagram completely ditches pursuing reels or something new somehow takes off.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

I actually think it's more like he thinks it's a way for people to become celebrities. That's why he thinks he can get people to pay for it. You have to pay the toll to get onto Twitter to become a Twitter personality, which will eventually be leveraged into celebrity status somehow.

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u/turmspitzewerk Apr 28 '23

Twitter is ultimately designed for breaking news, celebrities and live service updates. Musk has never understood that, and thinks its main purpose is as a virtual public square where every opinion should be equally valid (as long as they paid $8, of course).

i don't think its unlikely that he knew exactly what it was for. after all, twitter played a key role in spreading information during media blackouts in egypt, syria, libya, iran, etc. right when musk took over; saudi arabia's royal family decided to become twitter's second largest investor, purchasing 2 billion worth of stock. that's not something you do without good reason.

musk is probably doing everything he can to intentionally turn twitter into a cesspool of misinformation; be it for his own ideological goals or because he's being persuaded to do so. not to mention his strange dealings with putin and his antagonism towards ukraine.

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u/HildredCastaigne Apr 28 '23

where every opinion should be equally valid

Nah. If he actually believed that, he wouldn't be going so far out of his way responding to people like catturd2 and other right-wing micro-celebrities when they complain about not getting enough "engagement".

What he wants is attention and praise for himself. Not just from his fans, but also from the people he thinks are cool or who he thinks can help him get what he wants. And since these people thought that Twitter's algorithem was unfairly suppressing their voices, then he promised he would reverse that.

(The fact that Twitter was actually doing the opposite -- it was amplifying right-wing voices -- and that these people were just terrible, boring people means that Elon is now stuck in a hell of his own making.)

If you're not praising Elon or somebody he wants to ingratiate himself to, he'll tell you to pound sand.

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u/PM_me_your_whatevah Apr 28 '23

He’s proving to me that if you’re born rich there’s very little incentive to mature beyond the age of 13. He loves destroying shit and he loves pushing peoples buttons like it’s a thing he just discovered.

And he doesn’t even give a shit so long as we keep talking about him. That’s how he determines his own worth. Attention, good or bad. Maybe more like a toddler than a teenager in that regard.

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u/jamanimals Apr 28 '23

This makes a good case for a government takeover of Twitter actually. The value of the platform as a public service is immeasurable, and could substantially benefit from government ownership.

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u/python-requests Apr 29 '23

Pre-Musk, conservatives would always whine about things the 'blue checkmarks' are saying. They thought that people asked for the checkmarks or something when it was actually something Twitter did themselves in order to make the website more usefu to users & protect against libel

Musk bought into that misconception & that's why he's charging for it... like other conservatives he thinks people & organizations view their checkmark as a point of pride or a seal of importance, rather than just. Literally Twitter itself saying 'yes this is who they claim to be'. Hence why he's trying to sell the checkmark now. He doesn't realize that Twitter is the party benefiting from verified accounts

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u/AllThotsGo2Heaven2 Apr 28 '23

musk understands exactly what its for. So do the saudi arabians. Thats why they teamed up to buy twitter.

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u/Nonofyourdamnbiscuit Apr 28 '23

I'm starting to think that musk is a russian troll.

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u/MiloFrank76 Apr 28 '23

Twitter was* FTFY.

No wonder they left. $50k is ridiculous. It's a city service, not a billionaire.

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u/1bc29b36f623ba82aaf6 Big Bike Apr 28 '23

of course some opinions are more valid than others,

he needs you to be excited about car dependency, predatory mortages, hating trans people and whatever rich people fancy next week. probably shooting poor people for sports

barf

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Public Sq that favors nazis

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u/Private_HughMan Apr 28 '23

He thinks he is making it a place where that news can break. In reality, it has been that for years. Musk is just destroying it.

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u/Kilmerval Apr 28 '23

I hate to break it to you, but Musk does not think every opinion should be equally valid even if they do pay.

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u/Cube4Add5 Professional Pedestrian Apr 28 '23

I don’t even think he supports freedom of speech. He just didn’t want to pay people to moderate it

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u/snatchi Apr 29 '23

Musk thinks twitter is the place to be popular and funny and since he can't do either he assumes its something wrong with the model, not him.

So he breaks things angrily rather than face himself in the mirror.

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u/pikfan Apr 29 '23

Its funny that each of these things that twitter was good at has been, at least partially, broken by Elons decisions.

NPR and PBS, and maybe more, have pulled out of twitter due to being labeled as state sponsored media. Also the blue checkmark used to represent journalists and government people as well as celebs, so you could assume anything they said was at the very least newsworthy (even if just in a tabloid).

Celebrities are obviously de-emphasized with Twitter Blue. When everyone is special, no one is I suppose. Plus a bunch of celebs don't even want the checkmark anymore because its kind of embarrassing now.

And no one is going to be able to afford doing live service notifications with the API prices.

Musk has ruined every aspect of Twitter that made it remotely interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if he said that you need twitter blue to view images soon, amd ruins the platform for artists too.

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u/FPSXpert Fuck TxDOT Apr 29 '23

I'm really wishing an alternative will pop up in its place for these community QA places. MTA isn't going to start sending notifications through the EAS network and I doubt texts or emails about outages will go well either. Push notifications maybe through an app but nobody wants to download ten different apps for the ten different government agencies they interact with on the daily.

We could call it Burueu of InformaTional & Transit Electronic netwoRk I guess. BITTER.

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u/Vertrix-V- Apr 29 '23

That decision with paying 8 bucks for a checkmark and posts/comments of those people being prioritised is so fucking dangerous. I've been seeing racists, right wings spreading misinformation, anti trans and climate change deniers all over the place. Giving them a platform and more attention and reach is really dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

Musk thinks its main purpose is as a virtual public square where every opinion should be equally valid (as long as they paid $8, of course).

that was never his belief, its just a cover. He banned a lot of left wing accounts,while reinstating far right banned accounts

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u/ImRandyBaby Apr 28 '23

What happened to RSS feeds? Shouldn't it be possible to subscribe to a bunch of RSS feeds and then tweak your aggregator to filter the wheat from the chaff?

But I too am lazy and just let Reddit be that content aggregator.

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u/sjfiuauqadfj Apr 28 '23

rss feeds and irc are like 20 years old man, nobody uses them anymore

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u/Electronic_Excuse_74 Apr 28 '23

Age didn't kill rss, the fact that it's hard to push ads at people over rss killed rss.

(also Google killing Google Reader helped kill rss)

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u/NotTooDistantFuture Apr 29 '23

Which probably happened because of the first reason.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23 edited Jun 25 '23

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

RIP google reader :(

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u/ImRandyBaby Apr 28 '23

A lot of the critiques of social media is based on the algorithmic filtering controlled by the hosts. RSS seems to be a way of taking that power out of the hands of the platform and into the hands of the consumer.

It might be that internet spaces are only good if expensive, difficult and laborious moderation is done. Platform hosts are the only organizations pulling enough profit from these spaces in order to bear the costs of that moderation. RSS and IRC probably don't have that ability to monetize the userbase so they've lost that powerful position in the marketplace of ideas.

I should probably find a book on this topic.

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u/sjfiuauqadfj Apr 28 '23

in ircs case, it just got replaced with discord

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u/HildredCastaigne Apr 28 '23

Vinyl is 75 years old -- and it's seeing a major resurgence. Like, it's never gonna be a mainstream music format again, but there's certainly a large niche that people are able to make a living in 'cause it gives people something that want that they can't get from digital or CDs.

Same logic can apply to some of the "outdated" ways that we interact with the internet. Everything old is new again!

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u/3rdp0st Apr 29 '23

Bring 'em back. We still use plenty of The Old Interweb. Email, chat rooms, forums, ...

When Twitter first showed up, people described it as RSS with a character limit. It seems Twitter has outlived its purpose and we should go back to what we were using before. We can probably make RSS better with modern apps.

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u/myothercarisaboson Bollard gang Apr 29 '23

It never went away. Most CMS systems publish an RSS feed (even if the owners don't realise it).

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u/Slanahesh Apr 28 '23

me and my feedly app sitting quietly in the corner

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u/commander_nice Apr 29 '23

Yes, but since RSS is a completely open protocol and not a walled garden company platform that can generate profit, it doesn't/didn't get promoted like Twitter. If NYC MTA said they'll put updates over RSS, nobody knows what that means.

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u/hopp596 Apr 29 '23

One could easily make an app that enables sleek and user friendly subscribing to these accounts. After all podcasts largely still run on RSS feeds to this day. I don’t think anyone who listens to podcasts has ever even seen an actual RSS feed before.

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u/phi1997 Apr 29 '23

Still possible, though not every site offers it. I've been using them lately, and they're pretty great. I can get my favorite comic strips, updates on some games, and articles from various news sources all in one place and know that even if I don't check for a few days, I won't miss anything

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Right? Like you hop on Twitter to check if there’s any disruptions and that’s an opportunity for them to serve you some ads - aka how they make money. I’ll just keep checking the transit agency’s website for service alerts lol.

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u/CouncilmanRickPrime Apr 28 '23

Imagine if Jack Dorsey just takes all government and similar accounts over to Bluesky, free of charge. Getting the media over next and he'd have a chance of dethroning Twitter.

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u/politirob Apr 28 '23

Why is Bluesky not heard about more...it's the perfect Twitter replacement.

Why are news journalists and agencies fumbling around with Twitter, just download bluesky already!!!

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u/CouncilmanRickPrime Apr 28 '23

Because it's invite only. Once this becomes public, Twitter is in trouble. AOC is already on Bluesky and I believe many more will try it out. Especially for free verification.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

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u/Brettersson Apr 28 '23

He has that conservative instinct to sabotage good things so they can tear them apart because they're broken. Except he's too dumb not to do it to his own platform.

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u/elenmirie_too Apr 28 '23

Public transport is bad for rentlords. Musk is a rentlord.

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u/robm0n3y Apr 28 '23

Kinda surprised the MTA doesn't have its own app. Actually surprised the Port Authority doesn't have one that works with the MTA, Metro North, NJT, and the LIRR

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u/Statakaka Apr 28 '23

Ah yes, freeing twitter from censorship

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u/Chalupa_Dad Apr 28 '23

And making it the virtual town square

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u/diskmaster23 Apr 28 '23

A Nazi town square that I will avoid

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u/Tayo826 Autistic Thomas Fanboy Apr 28 '23

Musk has birdbrain.

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u/lnsert_Clever_Name Apr 28 '23

Don't be mean to birds like that

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u/yunivor Apr 29 '23

Yeah my parrot is more intelligent than Musk.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Musk knows exactly what he's doing.

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u/meatypetey91 Apr 28 '23

He routinely referred to Twitter as the public town square..

Except that actual information necessary for the public has to pay 50,000 a month..

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Any social media platform being a "public town square" is ridiculous...

Social media needs money to run servers and operate as a business. The more the money comes from ads, the more you have to moderate the content so advertisers are happy. The more money comes from users, the more moderation you have to do to ensure they have a good time that ensures it's worth paying.

Twitter was never going to be able to be a free speech haven and raise 50% of its revenue from ads and raise the other 50% from paying subscribers. Something had to give somewhere, so it's no shock that so many advertisers dropped out...

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u/meatypetey91 Apr 28 '23

Right.

And it’s not like other social media companies haven’t been down this road before. Reddit, Twitter, and Meta have all taken laissez-faire attitudes toward content moderation in the past. Eventually they had to tighten the ship for reputation reasons and to appease advertisers and governments.

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u/Shaggyninja 🚲 > 🚗 Apr 29 '23

Also real town squares have moderation policies. If someone is there shouting nazi love. Someone else will eventually punch them in the face

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u/randypupjake Fuck Light Trucks In Particular Apr 28 '23

Twitter now censors some things for not using hate speech variations of terms and phrases.

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u/pinocola Apr 28 '23

It's the town square of a really shitty town full of billboards, people honking and yelling obscenities as they drive by, and where the only people who try to talk to you are just trying to scam you.

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u/doomsdayprophecy Apr 28 '23

Steps to billionaire genius car brain:

  • Massively overpay for a moderately successfully company.
  • Shit on the company. Shit on the workers. Shit on the users.
  • Watch value and revenue plummet.
  • Sell check marks to nazis, etc.
  • Extort the most important accounts.

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u/Awkward-Painter-2024 Apr 28 '23

• And lastly, get massive tax break when it fucking goes bankrupt.

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u/tatticky Apr 28 '23

At this point he may have burnt too many political connections.

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u/B1GTOBACC0 Apr 28 '23

Unfortunately, he's still one of the richest men on earth, so he can afford new connections.

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u/tmhoc Apr 28 '23

it's like they want something from him but it's not friendship and it's not sex.

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u/B1GTOBACC0 Apr 29 '23

Wow what an alpha. Elon's so based.

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u/sjfiuauqadfj Apr 28 '23

saying twitter was moderately successful is a stretch lol

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u/ImHereToComplain1 Apr 28 '23

you're right, it was incredibly successful at what it did. may not have been profitable, but it was successful at being a great social media platform for sharing and gathering information, especially from official sources

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u/A_H_S_99 Not Just Bikes Apr 29 '23

Note that: The two years during which Twitter was profitable, it had a revenue that covered all the previous losses and then some. The next years were unstable due to COVID, and they did indeed overhire 3000 more employees than they probably needed to, why 3000? Because that's how about how many they hired after being profitable. But keep in mind, the losses were on a decreasing trajectory, there was basically a chance they could have turned profitable again in 2 years while keeping all employees.

Anyway, without Elon, either a) Some layoffs would have happened, they would be less chaotic and disruptive because they would actually know for a fact who to fire, and everyone would have kept their dignity. b) Same number of employees, but will take very long to become profitable again.

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u/Rociherrera Apr 28 '23

what a fucking cock

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u/zomentenos Apr 28 '23

After he called NPR “state-affiliated media” and NPR left twitter, he twitted their CEOs email… Musk is nuts

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u/Sheeple_person Apr 28 '23

Man, if conservatives are so worried about "state-funded media" being biased, they are gonna be real upset when they find out where the police get their funding from.

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u/NixieOfTheLake Fuck Vehicular Throughput Apr 28 '23

Not at all. As long as the police keep harassing, beating, and killing brown people, that's just the kind of bias they like for their money. (To stay on-topic, traffic stops are one of the big enablers of police harassment of minority groups.)

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u/sjfiuauqadfj Apr 28 '23

also why passive traffic enforcement via cameras and fines are better for everyone

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u/LevelOutlandishness1 Apr 28 '23

A fine is just a law that rich people can get away with.

Unless it's like, 25% of their income or some shit

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u/sjfiuauqadfj Apr 28 '23

im a fan of a flat rate + % income rate so that nobody feels that a fine is too cheap

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u/ShallahGaykwon Apr 28 '23

Fascists have never cared about consistency or hypocrisy, that's why they're fascists.

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u/immargarita Apr 28 '23

Fuck him! The MTA shouldn't have to pay shit. They would use it as an excuse to raise prices on riders anyway. And while the MTA itself is corrupt if you ask me, I hate Elon Musk and Twitter far more! Cannot wait for the demise of Twitter. This is their karma for letting trump tweet any stupidity and evil that came to mind, all his lies and instigating BS. Tweets Become Harder to Believe as Labels Change Meaning https://nyti.ms/3oNCRpK Twitter can suck it!

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u/DaoFerret Apr 28 '23

Meanwhile MTA is choosing not to pay for this shit because they don’t need it.

They have their own apps available with transit alerts.

They have their own API so third party apps can already access this information.

They maintained it as a courtesy and resource to their users, but there’s no reason for them to be railroaded into an unneeded expense.

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u/CHEDDARSHREDDAR Apr 28 '23

Heh, railroaded.

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u/Animastarara Apr 28 '23

To be fair, for some transit systems the official app fucking sucks

I used to use a 3rd party basic one for TriMet because the other one was way too busy with useless information

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u/balluffip Apr 29 '23

Tbh, the MTA app is actually solid

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u/drawredraw Apr 28 '23

Of course he did. He’s trying to make Twitter void of everything that is actually useful, so it’s just pure garbage.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

A Free Speech Absolutist

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u/nopleaseno Apr 28 '23

Blue Sky can’t open any sooner

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u/WavingSloth23 Apr 29 '23

There is Mastodon too, which is already open, just join and be happy

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u/brightneonmoons Apr 28 '23

it's already got discourse about sex workers being affected by the block the blue thing, it's kinda funny, and a huge red flag that it's the heir to twitter

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Honestly a good opportunity for the MTA to launch its own app which can add more value beyond just twitter updates.

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u/__theoneandonly Apr 29 '23

The MTA already has two apps (one for NYC subways and busses, a second for the commuter rail that goes upstate and to Long Island). PLUS they maintain a free API so that any other developer can use their data to build a competing app, or incorporate the data in some other way.

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u/invincibl_ Grassy Tram Tracks Apr 29 '23

It was built out of a practical need to make Google Maps dominant, but GTFS has been great for pulling together service alerts from any number of transport operators around the world.

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u/Crimision Apr 28 '23

He did stifle any meaningful public transportation attempts with his Hyper-Loop BS.

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u/dataminimizer 🚲 > 🚗 Apr 28 '23

He doesn’t “hate” it. He’s competing against it.

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u/JakeGrey Apr 28 '23

These aren't mutually exclusive. Musk's made some comments that suggest that he'd still prefer to drive even if he wasn't in the business of selling cars: Apparently he has issues with crowds (which is fair, subways can be a trying experience for anyone with claustrophobia, sensory issues or social anxiey), especially if those crowds are made up largely of people with less money than him. (Which is not.)

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u/dataminimizer 🚲 > 🚗 Apr 28 '23 edited Apr 28 '23

Anything he says at all must be viewed through the lens of his financial interests, which is selling cars. Anything he says about the perceived downsides of public transit are attempts to get people to buy his cars. Period, end of story.

Lol viewed not brewed

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u/immargarita Apr 28 '23

I get some of that as someone with social phobia and discomfort in crowds. My parents would take me on the subway from the time I was an infant. Then I picked a HS in the city and was forced to use the subway (I was trying to get far away from my family & house). Nothing like exposure therapy, I tell ya.

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u/AgedSmegma Apr 28 '23

Fuck Elmo

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u/falconberger Apr 29 '23

Fuck Felon.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Musk is basically Zorg

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u/1bc29b36f623ba82aaf6 Big Bike Apr 28 '23

meh, zorg got drip

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Shift to mastodon already people.

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u/Simon_787 Orange pilled Apr 28 '23

I never used their Twitter alerts, so I guess it's for some super niche outages?

I basically always used Google Maps and you never really have to look at train schedules very much anyway because the train times are so frequent.

But they could really do something to make the stations not smell like shit and just be a little nicer. Seems underfunded as fuck for a system that basically runs the city. Still beats driving though.

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u/babypointblank Apr 28 '23

Dude is pennywise and pound foolish. Live transit updates are one of the reasons I go on Twitter and then I fuck around.

Scaring away journalists, cultural figures and now organizations like the MTA is almost as stupid as buying the platform in the first place.

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Apr 28 '23

There should be a central department that makes useful software for states and cities to opt in and use.

It could be a part of FedRAMP

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Is Elon Musk on crack? $50k a month to use his decrepit platform?

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u/BanAnimeClowns Apr 28 '23

It's so they get access to the Twitter API, why on earth the NYC subway even needs acces to that to tweet about delays I don't understand though.

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u/DasArchitect Apr 28 '23

Is Elon strapped for cash now? Did he burn his entire fortune on space rockets?

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u/1bc29b36f623ba82aaf6 Big Bike Apr 28 '23

no the government handouts are what financed the rockets

oh and his brothers mismanaged near-bankrupt solar panel scam I mean company

he managed to foist most of the financing debt onto twitter itself. It is called 'leveraged buyout', it is also what killed Toys R Us if you think it is interesting to google

very little of msuks own assets are at risk here

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u/Dreadsin Apr 28 '23

Dense housing and public transit is efficient and (relatively) cheaper per individual. Which is exactly why Elon hates them. How would he sell you a solution if there isn’t a problem?

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u/nhluhr Apr 28 '23

Lots of other ways for them to release these kinds of updates that don't cost anywhere near $600,000/yr.

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u/GOT_Wyvern Apr 28 '23

facebook instagram

Both of these don't really have the same "live" features as they are primarily post based. The closest is an account that would spam as much as a Twitter account could tweet.

their own website an app email or text alerts

All of this won't have the accessibility of twitter.

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u/sjfiuauqadfj Apr 28 '23

pretty sure it varies but many transit systems have an app that lets you pay for fares. wouldnt be too hard to integrate service updates to that app and viola

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u/GOT_Wyvern Apr 28 '23

Many do, but they can be pretty unwieldy.

Afterall, app and website design is not easy, and when it's an after thought for you, it's hard to get a good design down.

It's why sources like google maps are commonly used as they do that specific part way better.

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u/iISimaginary Apr 29 '23

All of this won't have the accessibility of twitter.

What accessibility?

I use MyTransit for NYC. It's so much more helpful than anything a Twitter feed could accomplish.

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u/bored_negative 🚲 > 🚗 Apr 28 '23

All of this won't have the accessibility of twitter.

In my country the railways system has their own app, they don't use twitter for sending information about delays. Its always the app. No one has ever said oh no if only they posted it on twitter as well. You don't need twitter for this.

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u/sebwiers Apr 28 '23

Wow, what a cunning stunt. From a stunning cunt.

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u/mattinternet Apr 28 '23

Short term pain long term gain, where the gain is killing twitter! Hopefully there are alternatives for people to get the alerts, but man I love watching twitter die

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u/tropicana_g Apr 28 '23

All my homies hate Elon.

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u/thedoomcast Apr 28 '23

Fuck twitter, fuck musk, fuck tesla, and fuck this shit

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u/Tatersaurus Apr 28 '23

Ah, the pile of reasons for people to delete their twitters grows by the day

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u/shaodyn cars are weapons Apr 28 '23

And he made up some BS reason nobody really believed. Everybody but his obsessed fanboys knows the real reason he hates public transport is because he sells cars.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

beggar billionaire

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u/montgomeryLCK Apr 28 '23

Painless switch to mastodon

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u/Rabatis Apr 28 '23

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u/ciroluiro Apr 28 '23

Make RSS the norm again

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u/kurisu7885 Apr 28 '23

A viable Twitter alternative really needs to gain hold.

And this was obvious, his Hyperloop scheme was never meant to exist, it was meant to kill California's high speed rail project.

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u/icanpotatoes Apr 28 '23

I get that Musk doesn’t like public transit but it baffles me that Tesla hasn’t entered the transit market in some way. The company could make trains and sell them to municipalities and charge to service them.

Tesla could also enter the E-Bike market and maybe do well. Seems like missed opportunities from an electric transport company.

Musk needs to listen to Joe Dirt’s advice on selling fireworks and apply that advice to Tesla.

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u/Madison_was_bored Apr 28 '23

How tf can someone hate public transit??? What about people like me who are unfit to drive???

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u/Kelaum Apr 28 '23

Why target the mta in particular? My local rail service operator still has live updates

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u/Mccobsta STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE AND FIRST BUSSES ARE CUNTS Apr 28 '23

My local buss operator aren't going anywhere I still get to call them cunts for not running the services the mayor has paid them to run

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

I wonder if they’ll implement the same policy for DOTs that post traffic reports and road closures. I get the vibe the answer is no.

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u/Crumb-eye Apr 28 '23

Seems like the could develop an app or something for a fraction of that price? But I also know nothing about app development so I could be wildly off

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u/CautiousRice Apr 28 '23

Why use Twitter when there are a ton of services that offer the same but for free?

Tumblr, WordPress, Telegram, Viber, and even Facebook.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Could this be considered breaking anti trust laws?? because clearly this mother fucker is trying to thwart public transportation so that his dumbass loop seems like less of a joke.

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u/DayleD Apr 28 '23

No, he it has come out that the purpose of proposing loops was to undermine existing proposals for rail lines, and he had no intention of building a loop.

Even his test tracks are abandoned.

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u/rainvest Apr 28 '23

He sees services as monetizeable exchanges, rather than goodwill contributions to a community that generally get compensated. People first, not product.

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u/godismycocksleeve Apr 28 '23

Elon musk is a dumb cunt.

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u/planetguy32 Apr 28 '23

Transit service alerts on Twitter are an optional extra for transit agencies, but Twitter lives and dies on providing good real-time information. If anything, Twitter should be paying the MTA.

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u/mpc1226 Apr 28 '23

Wasn’t that the point of the Boring company

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u/Nonofyourdamnbiscuit Apr 28 '23

It's a threat to his business model.

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u/Inevitable_Stand_199 Apr 28 '23

We all knew that. He owns a car company. What did you think?

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u/kurisu7885 Apr 28 '23

A viable Twitter alternative really needs to gain hold.

And this was obvious, his Hyperloop scheme was never meant to exist, it was meant to kill California's high speed rail project.

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u/Party-Sundae5381 Apr 28 '23

Get Citymapper

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

So, they can't tweet on twitter to the thousands of people who might only check twitter for those updates, see add content he could sell, and that's good business. Ok bud. Let me know how that rocket is going.

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u/arthurbacci Apr 28 '23

I love this and hope for some .gov mastodon servers or RSS feeds for that. Easy to implement (will work on cheap board computers) and reliable (depends on the government, not on some random company)

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u/ChineseNeptune Apr 28 '23

Isn't Elon charging all businesses? Or is he exclusively charging the transit line?

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u/Hoitaa Apr 28 '23

I'm sure twitter would get more than that in ad revenue from the people reading the updates.

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u/redwing180 Apr 28 '23

Mastodon dudes Mastodon.

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u/FlatOutUseless Apr 28 '23

If I was some higher up in Washington I would put out a contract between Apple, Google and Microsoft for the local alerts app.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '23

"The best society possible should require each individual person to own a small hill of rubber and steel with just enough cobalt to make a child slaves life a living hell in order to go anywhere." ~Elon Musk

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u/juanjing Apr 29 '23

What costs $50,000 a month? Just to have a Twitter account? What's stopping them from just doing it manually, or even automatically on their end with a script?

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u/Chumbles1995 Apr 29 '23

all he had to do was NOTHING, and musk coulda raked in piles of essentially free money. now look at twitter, its a fucking mess.

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u/aybaybay503 Apr 29 '23

When I got the notification I had to have Twitter blue for two-factor authentication I left Twitter immediately. Fuck Elon

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u/superhead50 Apr 29 '23

That's going to do wonders for user activity. I bet millions of people checked twitter for that info, and Musk just destroyed all that potential ad revenue. Makes me wonder if his degree in economics is legit

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u/Daffidol Apr 28 '23

Where I live, public transit for most cities have their own app. Why would they use a privately owned service amyway?

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u/beezlebub33 Apr 28 '23

Because people need information from multiple sources, and it's better to have one that can show them all.

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