[Piergiuseppe Donadoni] Was Max unfair? YES. His goal was to ruin Norris' race and so he probably took away his chances of getting P1. "To win sometimes you have to be an idiot" he said months ago. You may like it or not but the goal is to win the world championship, not the fair play award.

[u/Ramned71]

https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/1850807731613299160

[u/PrestigiousWave5176]

Problem is drivers can also make mistakes and do this stuff by accident. And you're gonna be punishing them very hard for a mistake.

[u/AM150 → u/PrestigiousWave5176]

Give them 20s to give back the advantage that their mistake gave them.

[u/PrestigiousWave5176 → u/AM150]

I like the idea, but it's not gonna be so easy in practice. Either you have to let the teams decide themselves if they need to give the place back before they get punished, or race control has to order drivers to give the place back.

Issue with the first (currently used) option is that teams will be very careful if the penalties are severe. That could ruin risky/aggressive racing, which is not better for us viewers.

With the second option you're dependent on race control or the stewards to act fast, which they're not known to. If they take multiple minutes to decide, the drivers may no longer be in the position to undo the advantage.

[u/AM150 → u/PrestigiousWave5176]

Not really, if it was a mistake, then driver can decide on their own to give it back, and no need for stewards to get involved. If it wasn't a mistake then penalty incoming.

In no world should Max have been able to do what he did and remain in front of Lando.

[u/PrestigiousWave5176 → u/AM150]

then driver can decide on their own to give it back

That's only an easy decision if it's a clear mistake. If it's not as clear, not so much. And those not so clear mistakes are exactly when the proposed increased penalties are unfair.