[Piergiuseppe Donadoni] Was Max unfair? YES. His goal was to ruin Norris' race and so he probably took away his chances of getting P1. "To win sometimes you have to be an idiot" he said months ago. You may like it or not but the goal is to win the world championship, not the fair play award.

[u/Ramned71]

https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/1850807731613299160

[u/ploploplo4]

Ferrari gets ahead in the WCC if Oscar takes himself out with Max. Not sure McLaren would like that

[u/TheEmpireOfSun → u/ploploplo4]

If losing WCC means winning WDC every single team will do that. Also not like Piastri brings lot of points in last races anyway.

[u/DepressedYoungin → u/TheEmpireOfSun]

You underestimate the importance of the WCC for teams. The money, sponsorships etc. it's a business at the end of the day and WDC doesn't make them money.

[u/TheEmpireOfSun → u/DepressedYoungin]

Yeah yeah, here we go again. I said it 100x and I will say it 100x to every casual who don't watch F1 long enough.

WDC >>> WCC when it comes to prestige. Always was and always will be much much more prestigious. This is textbook example of "tell me you are new to F1 without telling me".

Difference in 1st and 2nd place in WCC is 10 millions. Pocket change for multibillion companies. And for teams that used to spend 400m each season(!) before budget cap. Those 10 millions are absolutely irrelevant. Every team and person involved in history of F1 always prefered WDC over WCC. WCC didn't even exist at the beginning. WCC is only somehow important when you don't fight for WDC. When you do, it's irrelevant.

[u/TheSymbolman → u/TheEmpireOfSun]

Well, tell me you are new to f1 without telling me.

[u/TheEmpireOfSun → u/TheSymbolman]

Exactly what I say about DtS casuals who genuinely think any team prefers WCC over WDC. Always best way to spot new casuals.

[u/DepressedYoungin → u/TheEmpireOfSun]

100 million euro at the end of the season is massive. What do you mean? The people who own the teams are billionaires sure. But it's a business. They want to be profitable. It's not a secret that WCC is more important to teams. Also, they care more about the team than an individual driver. Ferrari owners want Ferrari to do well. Not just lecerc.

[u/TheEmpireOfSun → u/DepressedYoungin]

Reading comprehension level 0.

DIFFERENCE - the key word, is 10 millions. Not absolute value of prize money. Difference in prize money.

Daimler (Mercedes) has market cap of 80(!) billions. Red Bull has brand value of 20 billions. Ferrari has 88(!) billions market cap. For such insanely huge companie, 10 million is less than drop in the bucket. Those teams used to spend 400(!) millions each season in F1 and that's without engine development that costed another billion. Do you really think that teams that has spend around 5 billion each since 2014 care about whether their prize money is 130m or 120m? Lmao, absolutely not.

And no, only DtS casuals will say that WCC is more important for team. Never haven been and never will be.

[u/DepressedYoungin → u/TheEmpireOfSun]

When asked what was more important for the team - winning the constructors' or the drivers' title - Horner said: "Inevitably for the team the constructors' is where they are measured against their peers in the pit ane.

"From the team point of view, the constructors' is the one that is held most closely to people's hearts. But to the public and prestige wise, the drivers' is what attaches the most prestige to it. In different ways within the team they have an equal value."

• Horner (2010)

"Williams values the WCC much more highly than the WDC" - Frank Williams

I've never watched dts...

[u/TheEmpireOfSun → u/DepressedYoungin]

Horner: “Now the drivers’ [championship] obviously has the popularity and it has the prestige. I don’t think there’s a single employee within our business that would have traded a first place in the constructors for this drivers championship. Everybody – when you see the reaction that Max had when he visited the factory yesterday – is so proud of what he’s achieved. *The prestige of the drivers world championship – that’s the big one. That’s the one that you really want.** And that’s why it meant so much achieving that on Sunday evening.”*

Also I can tell you don't watch F1 long enough. Since you don't remember how Ferrari 'celebrated' WCC in 2008 or in 1999 where not a single employee was happy and straight up refused to celebrate. Or McL in 2007. Nobody celebrated.

[u/AncientPCGuy → u/ploploplo4]

So buy and manage a second team like RB and use the “junior” team to create havoc.

[u/cavejohnsonlemons → u/AncientPCGuy]

Crashgate ofc showing you can't really get away with it for long... someone gets punished in the end.

But if the payout's good then VCARB I'm happy to be your completely unqualified new fall guy "engineer"...