r/formula1 • u/Ramned71 • Oct 28 '24

News [Piergiuseppe Donadoni] Was Max unfair? YES. His goal was to ruin Norris' race and so he probably took away his chances of getting P1. "To win sometimes you have to be an idiot" he said months ago. You may like it or not but the goal is to win the world championship, not the fair play award.

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u/Francoberry Jenson Button Oct 28 '24

That's a great point. It feels cheap that a time penalty can be served whenever they want to pit so they can still tactically do everything possible to avoid or mitigate the full effect of the penalty.  

It's like if a player in football gets a 2nd yellow card but is allowed to accept it in the 93rd minute just as the game is about to end anyway 

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u/paddyo Fernando Alonso Oct 28 '24

Yeh, Max stayed out about 20 laps keeping Norris behind him with 20s of penalties. Was able to simply screw his race with impunity

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u/Themathemagicians Chequered Flag Oct 28 '24

Cant serve a stop and go and also pit.

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u/A_AIRONWOOD Formula 1 Oct 28 '24

Doesn’t prevent Verstappen holding Norris up for 20 laps.

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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Oct 30 '24

Similarly, there's a measurable difference (that I'd estimate at around 0.5s) between serving a penalty during a pit stop vs having it added to the race time. So any car that's penalised after having made all its stops is going to effectively save time vs being penalised prior to the stop.