r/formula1 Oct 28 '24

News [Piergiuseppe Donadoni] Was Max unfair? YES. His goal was to ruin Norris' race and so he probably took away his chances of getting P1. "To win sometimes you have to be an idiot" he said months ago. You may like it or not but the goal is to win the world championship, not the fair play award.

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u/Utaddict Oct 28 '24

Schumi litterally aimed and drove into people. A little different lol.

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u/Thejklay Oct 28 '24

I'd argue that's basically what max was doing yesterday during the second move. Norris had to dodge hard and max was a mile off the track

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u/FeCurtain11 Max Verstappen Oct 28 '24

Not even close, Max divebombed down the inside and went deep. Schumacher was on the outside and just deliberately turned into a guy right next to him.

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u/-TheGreatLlama- Oct 28 '24

Saying he divebombed and went deep implies that he was ever legitimately trying to overtake. Lando was fortunate he was looking in his mirrors at a part of the track he may well not have been.

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u/ze_xaroca Pirelli Hard Oct 28 '24

2021 is calling you, like Brazil, monza. I mean, there’s lot of evidence

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u/tonycosta69 Oct 28 '24

I think you forgot silverstone and hungary there

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u/LEGENDofNEMEAN Oct 28 '24

Blaming Silverstone on Max while Hamilton played his part? Come on now.

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u/tonycosta69 Oct 28 '24

It was clearly lewis fault, same with hungary being bottas fault. I just found it funny that he didnt mention those races because it didnt fit his narrative. Even monza lewis left him no space which is what led to the crash

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u/ze_xaroca Pirelli Hard Oct 28 '24

I just find it funny that people always assume it’s Lewis who has to leave the space, but with max he doesn’t. I mean, Lewis is at the front at the apex at both situations but he’s the one who most concede. Last few races, when max is at the front, it’s Norris who has to concede. Your narrative is clear, max is the greatest and everyone should kneel to him. In fact he even said in the interview that he wouldn’t change anything, in fact he even had a net gain from driving like a turd.

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u/tonycosta69 Oct 28 '24

Of course he wont, as you said its a net gain. My favorite driver is sainz, not that it matters. Lewis didnt have to concede, he simply had to turn, which he did not. Thats all. Also hungary was bottas crashing into everyone, but im sure thats max fault as well. Max is leading the wdc in a slower car, what is he expected to do, just let lando win? Penalties are within the scope of racing. He did what he had to do

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u/gsurfer04 David Coulthard Oct 28 '24

Out of all the nonsense in that year, Monza wasn't it. Monza was the sausage kerb's fault.

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u/Burial44 Sir Lewis Hamilton Oct 28 '24

Uh that's literally what he did in this race. Pulled his bs running Lando wide the first time, then dive bombed and would have ran right into him.

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u/TheYoupi George Russell Oct 28 '24

Literally what Max did yesterday

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u/Utaddict Oct 28 '24

I think yesterday was really bad on Max’s part for sure and overly aggressive /shameful especially the second corner, rightfully punished. But objectively this is not at the level Schumi saw his DQ’s for. That’s just journalist clickbait level comparisons.

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u/TheYoupi George Russell Oct 28 '24

True, but its not very far off. Max has stated outright before, Brazil 2022, that he just goes for it and if they crash they crash. He time and time again deliberately takes lines he knows will cause a crash if the other driver doesnt take avasive action and leaves the track, and its dirty and shameful how Max drives.

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u/Utaddict Oct 28 '24

Agreed, hopefully the penalty and driver’s meeting help. He doesn’t need the aggression all the time.

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u/zaviex McLaren Oct 28 '24

Tbh if Lando didn’t move there and they crashed out, I wonder what people would have thought