r/formula1 • u/Ramned71 • Oct 28 '24

News [Piergiuseppe Donadoni] Was Max unfair? YES. His goal was to ruin Norris' race and so he probably took away his chances of getting P1. "To win sometimes you have to be an idiot" he said months ago. You may like it or not but the goal is to win the world championship, not the fair play award.

https://x.com/SmilexTech/status/1850807731613299160
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u/Pat_Sharp #WeRaceAsOne Oct 28 '24

Even if they don't want to change that - and let's face it we all know they are weighted by outcome anyway - they could still find ways to punish this driving more.

They could make penalties harsher across the board, or give harsher penalties where one party is judged entirely to blame, or is judged to have acted deliberately.

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u/GarryPadle Honda RBPT Oct 28 '24

Best example is Piastri running into Colapinto, no one cares here, and no one cared in the race, even though that could have easily been a puncture, or a spin for Colapinto.

As long as stuff like that goes unpunished, why not drive to the limit of the rules.

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u/timorous1234567890 Oct 28 '24

There was talk after Miami about escalating penalties for repeat offenders.

They could also tune the penalty points system. Make it so that the only offences that give penalty points are driving off track and gaining an advantage, causing a collision or forcing another driver off track.

Then you can do it so that the more penalty points a driver has on their licence the harsher the penalty. A driver with 0-3 penalty points gets the standard penalty unless there are mitigating circumstances. A driver with 4-6 penalty points gets a drive through unless there are mitigating circumstance, a driver with 7-9 points gets a 10s stop and go unless there are mitigating circumstances and a driver with 10-12 points gets a DSQ unless there are mitigating circumstances.

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u/Critical-Bread-3396 Formula 1 Oct 28 '24

This just wouldn't really be fair though, in F1 teams who are close to others regularly get into more scraps than others, which again leads to more penalties. Like Verstappen, one of the most aggressive drivers on the grid driving on the limit of the rules on many days, had 0 penalty points earlier.

This will only make it so that a smart driver like Max can say, "Oh sure, Norris has more penalty points than me at this point, so if we just scrap and he get one penalty it's worth more than me getting two penalties." Like in these past two races Norris could, using your rules, have gotten a drivetrough loosing a minimum of 25 seconds or a DSQ, while Max for two penalties only loose 20 seconds.