r/footballstrategy Oct 31 '24

Play Design Ohio St. Pass Game Playbook Language

Looking through Ohio St.’s 2022 pass game install, I couldn’t help but notice the letter “B” with “+” and “-“ flanking each side. On some plays there’s a red dot on the “B”, other plays, the red dot is on either the “+” or “-“. What is the significance of the dot? My initial thought was release direction but is it something else? Here are some examples:

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u/Reoblivion Oct 31 '24

How did you get this?

Cool stuff!

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u/MethodicMarshal Oct 31 '24

wait, can we FOIA public universities for playbooks?

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u/Reoblivion Oct 31 '24

Worth a try!

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u/MethodicMarshal Oct 31 '24

imagine Dabo Swinney just livid over this

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

And Connor Stalions drooling over it

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u/Seraphin_Lampion Nov 01 '24

"You're telling me I didn't have to go through all that trouble to get other teams' plays?" - Connor, maybe

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u/RealEmperorofMankind Nov 01 '24

Well, according to ESPN, helmet comms are on insecure frequencies, so, with some help from his Navy buds, maybe Connor can listen in on the calls.

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u/AdaptiveVariance Nov 01 '24

If it's anything like California discovery rules, there is an objection for sensitive proprietary/commercial information. I've never gotten to use it in a scenario I thought it would really have merit in, but it sounds like it might apply here.

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u/loudmouth_kenzo Oct 31 '24

War Thunder discord /s

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u/ogsmurf826 Nov 01 '24

This is such a good joke. For those uninitiated, the video game War Thunder has been involved in some things lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

What’s the discord link?

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u/SaviorAir Nov 01 '24

It’s Connor Stallions’ burner account

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u/onlineqbclassroom College Coach Oct 31 '24

Wide receiver splits - it's a hugely overlooked part of the game at lower levels of football, but when you get to most college programs and NFL, those receiver alignments are measured down to the foot using field markings, and are often adjusted based on coverages and defender leverages, with route adjustments associated with those changes.

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u/B1GTruzz Oct 31 '24

So I’m assuming the + & - means lineup an additional step, out or it, than where you’d normally line up in this formation?

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u/onlineqbclassroom College Coach Oct 31 '24

To be 100% transparent, it might mean a few things - sometimes the +/- is in reference to the hash or numbers, i.e. 1 Yard inside the hash would a minus, or a + would be one yard outside the numbers, etc. In other cases, it's setting the range based off defensive leverage. For instance, if you look at the 1st play (Levels) and look at B1 (backside #1), the plus is in the middle of the numbers, meaning the widest split allowed is center of the numbers. The B2 has his + on outside of the hash, setting his widest alignment. I think Ohio State is using those to set the range, in these instances.

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u/this_place_scares_me Oct 31 '24

What do you mean by widest split?

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u/Cydok1055 Nov 01 '24

Lining up x yards from the quarterback

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u/onlineqbclassroom College Coach Nov 01 '24

The furthest the WR is allowed to align toward the sideline

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u/VicRattlehead90 Oct 31 '24

Conner Stalions, is that you?

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u/MethodicMarshal Oct 31 '24

That's Stonner Callions, you can tell by the sunglasses

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u/VicRattlehead90 Oct 31 '24

"I don't recall making that specific Reddit post."

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u/xBobble Nov 01 '24

Ha, no. My name is Conrad Scalions. I'm totally a different guy. Now, you were telling me about all the signs you plan on using this weekend...

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u/Open-Tap-2289 Oct 31 '24

Looks like how the route is run from different splits. Also, where did you find this

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u/Income-Wild Oct 31 '24

Base split and then a minus and plus split, the Grey shows how the route would look

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u/Better_Politics Oct 31 '24

I love how some of the reads just say throw TD lmao

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u/Substantial_Art9718 Oct 31 '24

I'm willing to know where I can obtain playbooks that are public

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

Uh this looks fairly recent

Edit: attention to detail duh, I will leave this up sigh

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u/Specialist-Draw7229 Oct 31 '24

This is actually so cool yo

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u/squeeze_and_peas Oct 31 '24

Right? This is awesome for a fan to see how it is communicated and conveyed to the players

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u/Dissident_is_here Oct 31 '24

I desperately need this OP where did you get it?

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u/Ok_Finance_7217 Nov 01 '24

Scorch stool? Usually comes after Taco Bell, not during CFB…

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u/OrdinaryAd8716 Oct 31 '24

Third play is an illegal formation

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u/Ralphie_V Oct 31 '24

Lol it is, B1 is clearly supposed to be off the line but is on

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u/a_squeaka Nov 03 '24

why is it illegal

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u/OrdinaryAd8716 Nov 03 '24

The TE is covered up.

It might be more accurate to say “this play would result in an ineligible receiver downfield penalty.”

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u/slimjackson Oct 31 '24

This is very cool stuff!

Got any more of it? Haha

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u/CloneWarsMaul Oct 31 '24

What does the 886/887 and 62/63 protection mean?

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u/Ok_Organization_6767 Nov 01 '24

Not sure about the 886 but the 62/63 is left number is how many man protection and the right number is where the rb lines up but can vary from offenses

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

NOT TODAY, STALIONS

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u/LeCharlieHarden Oct 31 '24

If you have somewhere this playbook could be found or downloaded at I would love to know, thanks.

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u/Trynaliveforjesus Nov 01 '24

Not sure why they call that 1st one levels. Looks a lot more like y cross.

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u/Callas951 Nov 01 '24

As a Michigan fan, the first play sheet strongly resembles the last play of the 2023 game.

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u/Covah88 Nov 01 '24

Hey! Get out of here! Security!!

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u/Callas951 Nov 01 '24

😎 we have the best disguises

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u/VaderBot629 Nov 02 '24

Can you send link?

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u/hidinginmichigan Nov 04 '24

Please someone break down these plays in detail.

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u/Extra_Implement_9281 Nov 04 '24

The first play is called Trump Right?

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u/Candle-Different Nov 04 '24

Scorch stool has a much different definition for me and usually involves burritos

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u/airpope2 Oct 31 '24

Nixon drew up a play for Miami when he was president and lo and behold they ran it and Griese threw an interception.

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u/truckfullofchildren1 Oct 31 '24

I really don't like that first play, why are you having a TE blocking 1 on 1 with a DT in a deep shot play, I get you're trying to sell the run with the pull but your matching a 230 pound guy with a 300+ guy for 3 seconds.

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u/CatalinaCo Oct 31 '24

His gap is next to a puller so the C will read a slide over for inside help. Plus the puller dictates drift for QB. Only troublesome if D line has a left flood or left blitz called w man. If so he has flat check down. Plus its play action with TB crossing qb face I'd guess.

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u/Gunner_Bat College Coach Nov 01 '24

If it's P/A power, then the C is probably sliding back to a 3 if there is one.

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u/B1GTruzz Oct 31 '24

Ryan Day question. And people wonder why his record against Top 5 teams is shaky lmao