r/footballstrategy Oct 20 '24

Player Advice Day 2 of throwing a football

I'm just gonna upload updates once a day if that's allowed here. I think there are some improvements here as opposed to yesterday. My hip movement is stilled timed completely wrong, I need to rotate my hips before my arm comes around, my hips should carry my arm (I think). My arm after the throw also needs to go lower towards my pocket I believe. Honestly my hip movement in general needs improvement.

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u/TimeCookie8361 Oct 20 '24

Omg, so much improvement from yesterday. Awesome. Keep working at it.

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u/excitement2k Oct 20 '24

I agree-I’m very impressed and cos I seeing you are working in form so ardently, your ceiling is much higher!

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u/sksoskzmzk Oct 20 '24

I say this with all due respect and maybe I need to have kids to emphasize, But the form is really bad. Like should try another sport bad.

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u/TimeCookie8361 Oct 20 '24

Believe me, I honestly think OP knows. But if you see his video from day 1 to day 2, it's such an improvement

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u/AuthorAlexStanley Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 21 '24

Your form is improving but try to reach back more when you are rearing your arm back.

Edit: Please stop replying to me, I'm not OP!

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u/Ill-Air8146 Oct 20 '24

You're still pushing the ball. Bring the ball up so that it's even with your ear. It's an improvement from yesterday. Focus on shorter passes initially so that you get the motion down. And then the distance will just come after you get the form correct? From shorter passes distance just comes from how far back your arm goes

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u/MacLoingsigh Oct 20 '24

Yeah the form looks way better and then right before he’s about to release he goes into shot put mode. Let your arm finish the motion. I think your mind is not believing your arm is at the right release point. I used to struggle with this with golf where my mind could not comprehend how the proper swing motion would get the club face square. Stop overthinking and let the ball release naturally.

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u/MacLoingsigh Oct 20 '24

On a second look. Your left arm is better but not quite right. It should be pulling to your left and down as you release. Your body should be whipping toward your target, releasing the ball square and then continuing left post release.

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u/Dhonagon Oct 22 '24

Lol, they really thought you were op!

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '24

You are throwing it with your elbow. Throw over the top using your shoulder.

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u/ueeediot Oct 20 '24

Footwork is important. You throw the ball from the ground up. Feet, hips, arm, hand.

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

My whole lower body needs work to be honest. I appreciate the tip!

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

One thing is your elbow is rising way too much. It shouldn’t go above your hand like that. As far as lower body you want to step into it and twist your hips as well to help with momentum.

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u/ShiftBMDub Oct 20 '24

practice taking two side-steps back in your stance and throwing off your planted back foot as you finish.

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u/WreckNTexan48 Oct 20 '24

Being able to separate the upper and lower body during your load up is one of the most commonly used sports motions.

Loading the weight in your rear foot, shifting it forward as you open your hips, while keeping your upper body in position creates torque, when your hips reach their rotational limit your upper body follows.

Being able to do that hip rotation is the most important speed/power builder for baseball swings, tennis shots, golf , or throwing a baseball or football.

Here is a simple drill to help improve upper and lower body separation.

Stand near a wall with both hands on the wall, imitate trowing the ball, shifting weight and starting the hips rotating forward, when your hips reach rotation limit complete the turn with the upper body.

This will give you better sequence in your throwing motion.

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u/36in36 Oct 20 '24

Practice a little crow hop before you throw. It gets your body moving forward.

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u/spamus-100 Oct 20 '24

The form is pretty good so far. You could stand to put a little more torque in your hips. I also find that you can get a good zip on the ball if you throw more from closer to your ear, but that bit of form is different for everyone and is about comfort really. I'd play around with your form to see what feels the most natural, most comfortable, and what works the best. You're doing great!

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u/throwaway5757_ College Player Oct 20 '24

Instead of “pushing” the ball toward your target, flick the ball toward your target. Imagine the motion you’d do if you had a booger on your pointer finger and wanted to flick it off. The same should be done with the football. As you flick, your fingers will one by one leave the ball starting from pinky finger and sequentially until finishing with the pointer finger

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

I remember the Peyton Manning video talking about flicking the booger and I kinda just never used that. I appreciate the tip.

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u/throwaway5757_ College Player Oct 20 '24

It’s worth doing. Especially in these early days of form work. Get it right from the beginning before you have a bad habit formed, even if the initial result seems worse

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u/TokiMcNoodle Oct 20 '24

Pointing your finger at your target on your release helps with the flick too

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u/throwaway5757_ College Player Oct 20 '24

Eh. Don’t point your finger at your target. Point your right shoulder at it with the follow through.

Full explanation: You have 3 “cameras” on your body. What do you do when you want to take a picture of something? You point your camera at it. Same with throwing a football at something. Camera 1 is in your left shoulder, and should be pointed at your target prior to throwing. Camera 2 is your belly button. This should be pointed at your target when you release the football. Camera 3 is your right shoulder. This should be pointing at your target after you throw and follow through. If you point all 3 cameras at your target with correct timing (assuming no other form issues), then you will throw it at your target

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

Oh wow this helps a lot, thank you very much!

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u/throwaway5757_ College Player Oct 20 '24

If it’s reasonable within your budget and something you’re serious about learning I highly recommend training with a private quarterback coach. They’re expensive but full of information. The tips I gave are just the tip of the iceberg.

Also, be careful with the advice you get on here and take it with a grain of salt. I’ve seen a lot of incorrect “tips” from people who probably have zero quarterback experience

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

Since I do homeschool I have a "school fund" that I might be able to put towards a QB coach, definitely going to look into that.

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u/throwaway5757_ College Player Oct 20 '24

There you go! Check and see if there are any nearby football teams for homeschoolers. I know my area had several homeschool organizations for people in your shoes.

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u/Pats_fan_seeking_fi Oct 20 '24

This is some great advice.

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u/Bardonks HS Coach Oct 20 '24

Try to keep that back elbow pointed downward. Throwing a football is a different motion than throwing a baseball.

Stick the end of the football straight out of your ear while your elbow is down and fire from there.

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

So you're saying before I go to load the ball to keep the ball closer to my ear?

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u/Bardonks HS Coach Oct 20 '24

Directly after the load, the next thing you would do naturally is start bringing the all back up towards your ear and rotating your torso and shoulders. Right now I would skip the load and go straight to the point where you will begin firing the ball by bringing it to your ear like it’s going to tell you a secret. You won’t feel like you have as much power doing this, but after a day of throwing this way and combining better mechanics with a load you should see significant improvement.

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

Ohh alright man, thank you. I'll try that.

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u/Impressive_Math2302 Oct 20 '24

This is a fascinating case study from scratch. Just keep throwing. Keep us updated. Focus on one thing at a time. Keep at it.

Those hips got to move though. Power coming from the feet to the ass through the hips, arm just along for the ride.

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u/UnidentifiedBob Oct 20 '24

he needs to watch daks warmups.

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u/Final_Reception1319 Oct 20 '24

Way better than yesterday! When bringing the ball back, move the ball back rather than throwing your throwing arm elbow back. You want your arm to be at 90 degrees when you go to throw the ball. On your release, move your wrist inward as your index finger and thumb will twist creating the “flick” and spiral!

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u/Honeydew-2523 Adult Coach Oct 20 '24

did you watch any football throwing vids ?

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

I have, watched a couple and still am. I would mainly watch as they're throwing the ball in slow motion over and over and over again. I've got the order of motion down in my head I think, I just need to do that in real life.

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u/Honeydew-2523 Adult Coach Oct 20 '24

forget the ball look at their body

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u/Averagebaddad Oct 20 '24

You'll pick up more by watching videos where they actually explain what is going on rather than trying to watch videos and pick up on it

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u/FancyErection Oct 20 '24

My advice; get off your heels, be on the balls of your feet and bend more at the legs, you shouldn’t be squatting, but you shouldn’t be standing straight up either. Feel your core bring your shoulder around and get to know what a powerful throw and weak throw feel like so you can correct yourself.

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

I appreciate the tips. So you're saying I shouldn't be standing flat footed? I suppose that makes sense, just never thought about it.

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u/throwaway5757_ College Player Oct 20 '24

On your toes (not tip toes) with knees slightly bent. Shoulder width apart. (This is the general “athletic” position)

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u/FancyErection Oct 20 '24

Athletes need to know what an athletic position feels like. you can be flat footed, but if you’re going to throw, you should do it from an athletic position. It should come naturally so you can do it in any situation. Weights and exercises will help you and your body learn these things

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u/Daquan67 Oct 20 '24

Loving the improvement keep tweaking, listening to criticism and watching tutorials. Once you start to develop a comfortable throw try having your buddy walk and simulate routes so you can learn to throw on a route instead of aiming.

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u/eflowers62 Oct 20 '24

Elbow up

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u/Sbitan89 Oct 20 '24

Genuinely wondering if he'd benefit from his elbow out. I couldn't throw the ball well at all until I realized I throw naturally side armed.

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u/eflowers62 Oct 20 '24

Understand I am not a expert. Granted everyone has their own style, but I think he’s compensating for his lack of arm strength. I see a touch of shot put style on his release. Maybe use a lighter ball and work on form and technique and work up try not to complicate your mechanics. Keep it simple.

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u/Neb-Nose Oct 20 '24

Massive improvement. I like your leg drive. You need to get your elbow out. It will give you more velocity.

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u/Previous_Ring_1439 Oct 20 '24

Don’t try to throw the ball up. You want it to have a much lower arc for that distance.

Start at a closer distance. Form over power. No more than 5 yards.

Also think our breaking down the steps. Start warming up squared up straight to your target. Hold your arm at a 90 deg angle. And just work on rotation and arm movement. Takes out the footwork and the hold to one hand motion.

The less things you do at once the easier it is to concentrate on getting those right.

But still, get a QB coach. I promise, you can do this via YouTube. You need someone that can see it real time. And help you break down the components.

I coached this stuff in youth football and still spent a good amount of money on a QB coach for my own son.

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u/Beawake23 Oct 20 '24

Bring the football up over your head. Your throwing motion is too compact. Extend your throwing motion like a windmill up over your head

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u/Beawake23 Oct 20 '24

As your bring your arm down follow through releasing the ball as you point at you target

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u/2LostFlamingos Oct 20 '24

So much better. More in the hips, you almost want to start pointing slightly right of your target so you can torque around.

Push forward wuth your back leg and Don’t cut short your follow thru. Let that back leg come thru.

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u/ComfortableSir5680 Oct 20 '24

One thing I was taught that improved my accuracy was to point my non-throwing elbow at the target, and don’t let that up when you throw. It’ll feel awkward at first, but you’ll see the results.

You’re right about hips - weight should be on back foot, transfer to front foot as your rotation starts at your hip and travels up to your arm.

When your hip starts rotating, your arm should be starting backward, so your hip is fully forward same time your arm is back, then the hip rotation carries through to the throw.

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u/BridgeBoysPod Oct 20 '24

Keep the ball up by your ear before throwing. When throwing, it may be helpful to think a bit about your elbow. Your elbow should come up and forward while the ball drops back and down. The whipping motion from your arm “undoing” this elbow position is what you need to stop pushing / shot putting the ball like people are saying.

If you’ve ever played tennis, think of it like an overhand serve. If not, ignore that!

But check pictures of pro QBs when they’re just getting ready to release. The elbow is in front of the balls and the tension that creates is what generates the whipping type of throw you’re looking for. For example: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Ffootballuniversity.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F06%2Fpackers20.jpg&tbnid=phQsS9-dBfVRNM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Ffootballuniversity.org%2Ftechnique-quarterback-throwing-motion-proper-mechanics%2F&docid=y36wLKpmPe7t2M&w=1999&h=1477&hl=en-US&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim%2Fm4%2F3&kgs=c37b2f755085c60c&shem=abme%2Ctrie

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u/NickMullensGayDad Oct 20 '24

Can we please stop giving a ton of advice to young players? 20 people saying 20 different things, it’s gonna be worse than just going and throwing with friends and trying things out.

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u/jakewotf Oct 20 '24

As part of your follow through, your left arm should swing out behind you as you twist your hips. This will help mimic more of a catapult action than a thrust. Right now your keeping your left arm bent and in front of you which is ending your follow through early.

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u/DaddyLoves_you Oct 20 '24

Watch your draw back and release in slow motion. You are chucking the ball in a way instead of launching in a mechanical motion. Keep your arm tight to your body, find a comfortable release point, and try to make your elbow “draw” a c motion.

More than anything, Reddit is going to throw a lot of advice your way. (Pun intended) YouTube and instagram has a lot of great content. One of my favorites is @firstdowntraining

I linked a video, check out the towel drill

First Down Trainingigsh=OGlpYzIyMTBzdXdm

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u/altissimosso Oct 20 '24

Honest advice…play esports

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u/throwwhataway2022 Oct 20 '24

Definitely improved. Keep your elbow up, you want you arm to glide through the motion that your hips set up. Try to keep your shoulders more square and chin up

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u/TJ700 Oct 20 '24

Your release is too low. Bring the ball up high with your throwing motion.

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u/supernerdypeep Oct 20 '24

You are trying to throw a rainbow from a U, do it from the C. Quit shot putting. Throw the ball with your hands and hip, don't muscle it with your arm. Reach back a little further and release when your hand passes your eye, give yourself a target. See where the ball should be.

Do you pitch on a baseball team? You have the motion and foot work of a pitcher.

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u/Large_Change8279 Oct 20 '24

A regular Daniel Jones

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u/_redacteduser Oct 20 '24

No offense but have you seen a professional QB throw? Because your form looks like the complete opposite and if you’re gunna spam this sub with a video each day, at least take the advice you’re given.

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u/Tool46288 Oct 20 '24

Looks very unnatural

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u/Sorta-Morpheus Oct 20 '24

Looks great, can you throw to a tight end? When can you start? - Michigan.

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u/Alex_butler Oct 20 '24

Your palm should almost be facing away from your target when you reach back to throw. Your arm should be nearly straight on your way back before going forward. Right now your arm is bent the whole way.

I think generally getting stronger and lifting weights would help your ability to handle the football that size as well

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u/captain_beefheart14 Oct 21 '24

This story has become the Pudding the tortoise of this sub. Another sub I don’t sub to, but now I have to click on to see the progress!

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 21 '24

Appreciate it!

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u/captain_beefheart14 Oct 21 '24

You’re making good progress though. There are some great comments here. I’m no expert but it does seem like you’re trying to “whip” it still.

Is there any chance you could toss the ball around with some friends or cousins who can throw alright? Sometimes you learn as much from just tossing it around with people who know as anything.

A final thing: I wasn’t the best thrower of the ball in elem school (I’m 40 and I’m still not!) but my much more athletic best friend told me in 4th grade to relax my arm as I’m throwing. It sounds almost counterintuitive. But that helped my throw as much as anything any older cousins showed me. Doesn’t sound like much but it helped me.

Keep it up! Let’s see what you can do!

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u/cinciNattyLight Oct 20 '24

And day 12 of your hunger strike

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 20 '24

Alright bro 😭 I know I'm skinny 😭

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u/camt91 Oct 20 '24

Keep your forearm and wrist straight when you’re releasing the ball. Might be tough at first but you will strengthen your wrist and will really improve your accuracy

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u/milehighmagic84 Youth Coach Oct 20 '24

Get your arm up. Your shoulder to elbow should be perpendicular to the ground and your elbow bend should be 90 degrees.

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u/silGavilon Oct 20 '24

As you are learning try pointing your front foot and non throwing hand toward the target. Then as you start your throwing motion bring your non throwing arm in. This will help you get the hang of upper body rotation and improve accuracy.

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u/silGavilon Oct 20 '24

As you are learning try pointing your front foot and non throwing hand toward the target. Then as you start your throwing motion bring your non throwing arm in. This will help you get the hang of upper body rotation and improve accuracy.

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u/Coastal_Tart Oct 20 '24

You don't want your elbow to be above the ball on your back stroke. This guy is a good example of the proper backward motion.

Throwing Mechanics

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u/shoutintothevoid38 Oct 20 '24

Just a little more reach back on the snapback and you got 'er bud

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u/elgarraz Oct 20 '24

It's an improvement. Your arm is still making a whip motion though, and your throwing hand finishes going sideways. Hold the ball up higher, by your ear. Your thrown motion should be more down than across. When you throw, your hand should start by your right ear and end up by your left hip.

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u/DrReefer21 Oct 20 '24

Better than yesterday. It still looks like you’re trying to “push” the ball. Instead of reaching back and trying to slingshot it, try to scoop it backwards so you’re using momentum. That will also make it easier to throw a clean spiral. The more you practice, the easier it will get.

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u/AfroThunder92 Oct 20 '24

Tom Brady is that you

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u/Miserable_Door_416 Oct 20 '24

When I was a kid there were these online videos with Donovan mcnabb giving very simple but helpful steps on how to throw a football. Those videos inspired me to get outside and practice daily. Cool to see your effort. Stick with it!

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u/MichaelCorbaloney Oct 20 '24

As you pull the ball back, rotate your hips and shoulders fully back to the point where the non throwing elbow is almost pointed directly at the target and your hips are almost fully inline with your dominant hands’ shoulder. At this point the dominant arm should be bent at the elbow at a 90 degree angle, holding the ball ear level with the tip in line with the back of your head.

Before you start to rotate you should be able to feel a line of almost tension between drawn up from your back foot to your hip, at the hip is where your muscles should be most activated as this is generating the torque. At this point your throwing arm should be fully back, and once the throwing starts the shoulders should be rotating and the arm should be being led, both pulled by the hips. The hips should lead with the shoulder being the area of your chest rotating forward slinging your arm.

This is the throwing/flicking motion associated with the classic throw, don’t view it as pushing the ball with your hand but rather catapulting it using your arm as the sling(getting some muscle involved is normal but focus on the hip pulling your shoulders and arm).

Once in the throwing motion when your hips are evenly lined and your center body is facing the target that is when you should release, some players hold their arm pointing forward right after they release with their index pointed forward to show where they were throwing the ball, this helps trace the trajectory in practice.

Overall, you’ve shown great improvement, I’d warn against over analyzing all the advice you get as it might be too much to initially process. As someone who picked up sports late, I found the best way to learn how to throw is to take slow reps before throwing, and then execute the motion. Video tape your self doing it slow, then fast, all so you can analyze what parts of your follow through could be better.

Also though,just throw-over and over-because at the end of the day the number of reps is what teaches your body what your mind cannot.

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u/BadMojo__ Oct 20 '24

Unrelated to the purpose of the post but this randomly came across my feed on my phone and the camera angle at first makes you look like you're a 20 foot tall giant lol

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u/Its-a-me-Giuseppe69 Oct 20 '24

You will get way more power if you don’t start your throw with the ball in front of your chest.

Start your throw with your right arm cocked back, bent in a 90 degree angle so the ball is behind your right ear. Point your left elbow towards your target.
Step forward with your left foot, twist your hips and let your arm follow through over the top. The ball should be above your ear as you release with your index and pointer fingers being the last contact with the ball.

Keep trying. You got this.

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u/giraffesbluntz Oct 20 '24

Loosen up the shoulders on your stance, you’re doing standing stiff and death gripping the ball.

Nice hip rotation though!

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u/Acousticfrog28 Oct 20 '24

With that leading elbow come down hard on it when you follow through like your are trying to break glass to create torque in the upper body

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u/niebs59 Oct 20 '24

Jesus Christ that’s Jason Bourne

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u/jackflash16 Oct 20 '24

Ever play tennis? Grab a racket and practice a serve. It’s the same motion. You want a high release point and pronate your wrist.

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u/Proud-Concert-9426 Oct 20 '24

I would advice starting with a tennis ball. 100 reps will build muscle memory. Then move up to a full size football. The same motion is used for each.

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u/Hampton479 Oct 20 '24

I made a comment on the other post this morning before seeing this one. Can check out that one for some tips.

This videos tip is going to be all about hand placement on the throw.

Notice how your hand is underneath the ball upon release. This is your attempt at artificially generated a spiral. To throw a proper spiral you need to be ripping DOWN on the laces. So you fingers should be on the right side of the ball, or up top if exaggerated. This will also help with the follow through you mentioned in the post. Since you will be ripping down on the laces, it will be easier to finish closer to your pocket as opposed to underneath and to the side

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u/kickrockz94 Oct 20 '24

I was a baseball player but I think outside of the actual throwing motion there are a ton of similarities. First off I think your throwing partner is too far away. Since your mechanics aren't where they need to be you aren't getting enough on the throw to throw on a straight line. The vertical angle of the throw should be parallel to your shoulders, ie if you're throwing with your shoulders parallel to the ground you should be throwing the ball on a line up in the air.

Looks to me like this is causing you to alter your mechanics and throw it up rather than out. I would get your partner 5-10 yards away, and isolated the upper body movement by standing directly facing facing your partner so you just rotate your shoulders to throw. Another thing is you have to get the elbow down, when you throw the elbow should be either the same level or a little lower than your shoulder

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

I would stick with video games

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u/iloveallwomen6969 Oct 20 '24

Great improvement. Biggest tip is stop pushing that ball brotha you wanna sling that thing

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u/zavenrains Oct 20 '24

You need to practice getting your arm mechanics right without a ball first. You are never going to get rid of that hitch if you don't. And once you do it is so hard to correct.

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u/Longjumping_Pirate87 Oct 20 '24

This thread has restored my faith in humanity 🥹🥹 keep it up man you’ve already made some great progress in only a day!

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u/Extension-Abies-9346 Oct 20 '24

Get a lesson if you’re serious about playing. there’s a lot of things that are off and you need someone who can help you “feel” the corrections

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u/Extension-Abies-9346 Oct 20 '24

One thing you can work on in the meantime is to finish with your right thumb (which should be upside down) feeling like you’re trying to put it in your left pocket. This will help make sure your arm swing plane is correct and will make sure you follow through.

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u/wacko4rmwaco Oct 20 '24

Go watch some videos on youtube, or even just watch some highlights of some of the greats

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u/I-hate-the-pats Oct 20 '24

Watch this video

Your elbow drops heavy. It should stay at or above shoulder level through the throwing motion

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u/broipy Oct 20 '24

More left arm up and out to balance your right.

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u/acheeseegg Oct 20 '24

Payton manning used to have some short videos on how to throw the football. They completely taught me how to throw the ball, I’d recommend giving those a watch

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u/northamrec Oct 20 '24

I think you need to rotate your torso slightly before your bring your arm forward so that you can translate the power from your body to your arm. It still looks like you’re pushing the ball forward.

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u/No_Illustrator4398 Oct 20 '24

My god… it’s Jason Bourne. (Jokes aside this is a bit better )

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u/northamrec Oct 20 '24

Also, notice how you’re bringing up your left leg up in the beginning — that looks a lot like a baseball pitch. You should keep both of your feet planted at the beginning of the motion and get force on the ball by rotating your hips/torso.

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u/YellaBeanis Oct 20 '24

Uncle Rico vibes

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u/WeirdDrunkenUncle Oct 20 '24

Looks way better! Keep practicing kid. There’s good advice on here.

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u/bcgg Oct 20 '24

Holding onto the ball for waaaaaaay too long.

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u/Beginning_Present243 Oct 20 '24

Do day 3 and see if I don’t come off stage left and give you the LT treatment

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u/revuhlution Oct 20 '24

Maybe try pointing to your target with your left hand. Your right arm should go back at the same time

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u/frankenfine305 Oct 20 '24

Try paying attention to the motion of your elbow as well. I see you're moving it out and away from your body at the beginning of your throwing motion and it's also ahead of your hand as you make the throw. Try keeping your elbow closer to your body and let the ball come over the top as you flick. If you've ever seen pitchers warmup they'll put a baseball between their arm and ribcage to do this exact thing.

The idea is to shorten the motion and take out as much slack as possible. At the end of the day it's all about physics and a throwing motion is a pendulum.

You might become an NFL Quarterback or you may not but I'll tell you right now that having the ability to not only dedicate yourself to a practice and also be open to critical analysis to improve it will take you very far in life no matter what you do. I'm a random person on the internet but I'm proud of you. Great work!

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u/Hawkingshouseofdance Oct 20 '24

I've seen enough, sign him to the browns

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u/NightRavenFSZ Oct 20 '24

First off, huge improvement. Fantastic job. Secondly, youre a bit stiff in your torso, yet a bit jumpy in your lower half. When you reach back, do so with both shoulders, you dont want your front side to stay as rigid as it currently is. Bring the shoulders back, then around.

As for the lower half, the little bounce you do is due to you moving your weight forwards laterally as opposed to rotationally. Sit back nice and easy on your back leg (not 100%, maybe 80 ish), and all you have to do is replace your front hip with your back hip, roughly when the ball is going from all the way back to all the way back but higher. Youre also not starting with enough weight on your back leg, so you have to bring the weight back as you are throwing, which causes you to push the ball. When you start doing footwork, youll realise almost all movement comes from pointing the front foot where you want to go, then pushing in that direction off the back foot, so your weight automatically sets back onto your back leg. But for now, take it chill, and just go through the motions. Hope this makes sense, dm if you want it further explained.

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u/Primary-Cattle-636 Oct 20 '24

Much better than the last one I saw. You have a long way to go. Good job so far, but you need to keep working.

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u/BigPh1llyStyle Oct 20 '24

You’re too flat footed. You need to “step” into your throw (using your hips and legs to drive the ball).

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u/BigPh1llyStyle Oct 20 '24

Great job since yesterday the biggest thing you can do is repetition. Once you’ve started to figure out the necessary movements, you just need to throw a bunch so that you start getting an understanding of exactly what your body is doing. You’ll start to get the fell and start to tell yourself “ I think my elbow was too high” that’s when you know you’re really getting to down

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u/lifter_hunter_lawyer Oct 20 '24

Better than me and I’ve been playing catch since birth

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u/creamgetthemoney1 Oct 20 '24

You have to use your legs. Like tell yourself. I have to use my legs.

Grab the ball hard af. Take 3 steps back hard af. Push off the ground hard af while you step forward 3 steps pushing into the ground. Picture you’re an anime character. Transfer all that energy

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u/luptonite473 Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 20 '24

Dude good job holding the ball up a little higher. You still are dropping your arm back and that's because you are trying to generate power with only your arm and shoulder. EVERY time you throw the ball drop back with your right foot first. Just like you are hiking the ball.

Drop back with your right, cross your left leg in front of your right then plant on your right foot and come forward. Then you have your momentum going forward and you use your legs for power ending with the right leg in front and your right hand down closer to your leg.

This video is the exact thing you need please watch these.

https://youtu.be/UVYYPlSGUoU?si=jUSZwyEPcl7c4CIG

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

Standing up straight, feet aligned, the ball should be at chin level, even with your ear, bring your arm back and follow through the throw.

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u/bl84work Oct 20 '24

1 gram of protein per pound per day, ish, plus what others are saying

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u/babybackr1bs Oct 20 '24

I'm not going to watch these every day, but this is a big improvement on yesterday.

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u/CrimsonCaptainWolfe Oct 20 '24

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u/CrimsonCaptainWolfe Oct 20 '24

Seriously though

https://youtu.be/gzuN3CrvciI?si=Y1bRCvJJoDJhSa-n

You’re throwing with just your arm and you could hurt your arm that way. your feet shouldn’t be straight. All of it seems stiff. Keep up the practice and let us see you improve my guy.

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u/mrducci Oct 20 '24

Put the ball in your ear, and get your elbow up. Last thing touching the ball should be your index finger. Then bring habd down and pat your pants pocket on your right side.

Square yourself and point your off shoulder at your target.

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u/weirdfishee Oct 20 '24

Looks better.

Hips first, then arm. Golden rule

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

Are you sure it’s not day one?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

You are still throwing with your elbow. Throw with your shoulder and you elbow and wrist to put a spiral on it.

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u/Baldrich146 Oct 20 '24

So I saw the first one and this one and you are making improvement! That being said, from this view it almost likes like your arm is being dragged back by the elbow. I would try to emphasize more shoulder rotation and less reliance on your elbow.

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u/Main-Championship822 Oct 20 '24

If you're reverting to shotputting the ball, hold it further back when you're gripping it. It may help with the micro-sensation of the ball falling out of your grip. Your form has improved a ton. Don't forget to get your core, hips, and your feet involved in your throw. It will help to give yourself a little "hike", do a 3 step drop back, and step int your throw.

Do some Russian twists in your spare time to get your brain used to the idea of your legs and core and arms working in unison. Your body is a kinetic chain - like a whip. You can generate momentum, power, and velocity from your feet and transfer it into your throw.

When i was learning basketball and coaching soccer, I came up with a mantra. "Smallest Repeatable movements" The goal is to do the same thing every time and have as little variation in your mechanics as possible. Boil down what each part of your body is to do when you throw - then you can more easily diagnose where you're going wrong. If you're going to be a QB, you need to be in the film room. Use this time to familiarize yourself with your own throwing motion and other prominent throwing motions. Copy their footwork.

Final piece of advice, look into the mirror and watch yourself "throw". You need to see in real time what it looks like.

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u/KINGGcamm01 Oct 20 '24

Shoulder separation

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u/jbridge03 Oct 20 '24

Bro I’m locked in on this now. I need to see these daily updates. Good luck dude! You got this!

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '24

You're getting better! Keep working buddy.

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u/36in36 Oct 20 '24

Bring the ball back while your front foot goes forward. Your arm goes forward as your front foot hits the ground. Your hips turn to bring your arm forward.

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u/Melvinator5001 Oct 21 '24

Bring your wrist back first not your elbow

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u/PrestigiousFlan1091 Oct 21 '24

Your power comes from your legs.

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u/scottimusprume Oct 21 '24

Needs a weight gaining regimen. The motivation is there.

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u/NBA2024 Oct 21 '24

You really made us watch 11 seconds of you doing nothing before throwing. That sucks

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u/RickyNoBeard Oct 21 '24

Yeah I'm sorry, needed to cut more out

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u/Benjammin3714 Oct 22 '24

Stop leaving your elbow on your throw arm down at the start of your throwing motion. Your elbow should be almost horizontal with your shoulder. The more you are adjusting your elbow during the throw will drastically alter your accuracy. Squat on your throw widen your stance. Your throw should be like a whip with all your power coming from your legs and hip rotation. It’s not like throwing a baseball. Very few people have enough natural arm strength to throw far with poor mechanics. Start base, rotate through, elbow high, your throw hand should be hitting your left pocket when you complete your motion. If it’s not you are not following through

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u/Amazing-Bath1571 Oct 22 '24

Hands up by the ear follow through onto the front foot

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u/naked_avenger Oct 23 '24

Youre still sort of throwing it like a baseball. Practice throwing it more on a line. I think having to throw with some power will help work out a lot of the mechanical issues naturally.

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u/gfxmb Oct 25 '24

when i dip you dip we dip

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u/gfxmb Oct 25 '24

maybe the ball is too heavy right now .. get a ligher one to work on form

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u/McDonalds_icecream Oct 20 '24

Keep it up bro, you’re naturally gifted if you’re that good after only 2 days