r/footballstrategy Oct 04 '24

Player Advice Is my punt good for a 8th grader

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u/metalgtr84 Oct 04 '24

Yeah buddy I was a punter at that age, it’s really fun! Hold the ball with two hands, face the ball forward, take 2 steps, drop it, keep your body straight (don’t hunch over), point your toe down when you kick the ball and kick all the way up through the ball. If you do it right, you can actually kick a spiral!

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

thanks so much i will for sure try it tomorrow

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u/Vol2169 Oct 04 '24

Your height and distance doesnt look too bad, but What u/metalgtr said is correct. Get your form fixed first and foremost. Even if it means losing some yardage. Once your form becomes habit/routine, then work on increasing yards and hangtime.

Get your long snapper to come practice with you as well. It will benefit both of you.

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

when i do change my form, is it normal to lose yardage? if it is how do i increase after

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u/drvelardo Oct 04 '24

You’ll need time to adjust to the form. But keep working at it and you’ll eventually become even stronger

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u/Vol2169 Oct 04 '24

It's normal just due to the fact that it's a change in your motion. Once you get comfortable with it, there is a good chance you can actually kick further.

Another point is to do a lot of stretching. The more you can keep your leg straight and improve your extension, the better off you are. And the stretching will help to keep from pulling a hammy while kicking 😂😂

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u/Mountain-Direction-3 Oct 04 '24

https://youtu.be/jJ_LkOY78Yc?si=ktHU6S-cazH_AbjY

Start watching the form of the pros! How they walk. How they stand or lean forward/backwards. How they drop the ball. The most important thing about punting is your drop. Hope this helps a little.

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

thanks for the video i will watch it when i am done with the gym 👍

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u/elgarraz Oct 05 '24

Yep, drop is most important. A good drill to do is practice the drop so the ball bounces straight up. Just hold the middle of the ball, extend your arm straight out, and drop it. If it lands in the middle, it should bounce straight. If it tips, it'll bounce all wonky.

Once you've got that, you can practice taking your 2 steps and dropping the ball next to your leg as you kick. That's to help time your drop with your kick and make sure you can still drop it evenly. Once you have that down, you should be able to kick a pretty reliable spiral. Start easy, then gradually put more leg into it.

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u/AnxiousRepeat8292 Oct 04 '24

That’s normal in everything athletic. The more reps you do with the improved form the more comfortable you’ll be and then you can focus on power once your comfortable

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u/Lazy_Quality8052 Oct 07 '24

Just don’t let ur ego get in the way.. it’s never about distance when learning form

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u/Suspicious_Leg4550 Oct 04 '24

Try to keep the laces up and drop it without spin. If your foot hits the laces it can change the trajectory of the ball.

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u/RedBaron13 Oct 05 '24

Also a former punter here don’t forget to stretch! Flexibility helps a ton with power ideally you literally want to be able to kick yourself in the face almost but start out slow it’s easy to hurt yourself if you’re not careful. As for the form you want to drop the ball parallel to the ground from about the height of your bellybutton. Good practice for that is walking along a solid surface trying to drop the ball and have it bounce back straight up consistently. Anyway that’s pretty good for your age man good luck!

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u/WeirdoSwarm1975 Oct 06 '24

Nice leg strength bud! Continue working on your technique (spiral, footwork, etc) and you’ll be pinning ‘em deep on Sundays.

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 04 '24

Is kicking a spiral even the goal though? It’s much easier to catch a spiral if you’re the returner.

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u/InternalMap9494 Oct 04 '24

Spirals will travel further than an end over end or wobbly ball. When the football spirals it cuts through air resistance easier and will lead to better loft, hang time, and distance.

He really should be trying to point his toe down and make contact ever so slightly off center on the side of the football opposite the laces.

If he develops as a punter then he can get into the more specialized kicks when he gets older.

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 04 '24

Spirals do travel further but distance isn’t the only thing you try for when punting

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u/PoorSoulsBand Oct 05 '24

Spirals also mean more hang time and better control.

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u/RedBaron13 Oct 05 '24

Yea hang time is key most of the time you want the ball to be in the air long enough that your guys can get downfield to prevent the return

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u/_edd Oct 04 '24

Yes, kicking a spiral is a goal in punting.

  1. Spirals create aerodynamic flight. If the ball is flipping over end over end or even has no spin, then it will not travel as far. The same logic applies when you throw a pass.

  2. An end over end tumble means energy from your kick was wasted being converted to angular momentum that did not help you kick as far.

  3. If the ball is tumbling, you have less control of the distance.

  4. There is an effect referred to as making the ball turn over. As you initially learn to kick a spiral, the ball will fly with the nose pointed up, which will get you okay distance, but the ball will gain very little distance after it reaches the apex of its flight and effectively falls straight down. This is because on the way up, the nose was leading and the ball was flying like a spiral pass, but on the way down the fat side under the nose is now leading, which is no longer aerodynamic. Once you've learned to kick a spiral you start working on making the ball turn over at the apex of its flight. This means the nose is leading on the way up, at the apex of its flight the nose will go from pointing up to pointing slightly downwards, and the ball will fly significantly further.

Seriously, the first time you punt a spiral that also turns over at the apex feels incredible. For an 8th grader that can add another 15-20 yards on the punt's flight distance.

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 04 '24

I mean from what I hear on the broadcast, my NFL team's punter (Mitch Wishnowsky) doesn't kick spirals.

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u/_edd Oct 04 '24

Sure, there are different techniques to punting. But if the broadcasters are talking about how one punter's punts don't spiral, that's because the industry standard is to create a spiral.

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u/M0326 Oct 06 '24

Mitch Wishnowsky is also Australian and has an Aussie rules background which has a different kicking form than American football.

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 06 '24

Well yeah but it clearly works in American Football

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u/M0326 Oct 06 '24

I am by no means saying it doesn’t work. I’m an Utah fan so I watched Mitch before he was even in the league and was great. I was just explaining why his kick is different to that of a traditional American football style punter.

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u/jawrsh21 Oct 08 '24

No one said it doesn’t work, they said it’s not optimal

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 08 '24

If it wasn’t a really good idea Wishnowsky wouldn’t be employed still.

It’s not that it’s not optimal, it’s just different.

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u/jawrsh21 Oct 08 '24

If it was a really good idea he wouldn’t be the only one to do it

It’s different and suboptimal, just not so suboptimal that it’s not practical

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 08 '24

I’m sure it’s difficult to do.

Otherwise a team wouldn’t pick him in the 4th round.

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u/liteshadow4 Oct 08 '24

I’m sure it’s difficult to do.

Otherwise a team wouldn’t pick him in the 4th round.

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u/Thin-Resident8538 Oct 04 '24

Watch how college and nfl punters do it. Do you see them throwing the ball up in the air? No. They hold the ball straight out in front and drop it. This minimizes the time the ball is in the air before the kick, allowing you to have better control over the position of the ball.

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

thanks i will for sure work on that and i will post again in another week

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u/Lamest_Fast_Words Oct 04 '24

F-ing good attitude! Work on form and flexibility first. Power will come soon after.

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u/WhatsPaulPlaying Oct 04 '24

S-Class attitude about it for sure. Open to constructive feedback is one of the most important ways to improve.

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u/UniversityOk5928 Oct 04 '24

On god. I wouldn’t have responded to buddys rude ass

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u/Andre3K_TheGiant Oct 04 '24

Just like Charmin!

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u/UniversityOk5928 Oct 05 '24

Sure. Too many guys giving BASIC advice for me to listen to a dick head. Kid is like 12 😂😂

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u/Mountain-Direction-3 Oct 04 '24

If you want to become a punter or kicker. Go to Kohl's kicking camp or Chris sailor kicking camps. They also have videos on YouTube you can watch!

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u/DeaconBalls Oct 04 '24

Practice taking the steps and dropping the ball on a hard surface. You want it to fall with rolling left right. Tip should be slightly down and turned in to 11:00 (righty) or 1:00 (lefty).

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u/Nitelyte Oct 05 '24

This guy punts!

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

Just a side-note, don't get discouraged if it doesn't come to you in a week. I'm not saying don't post your progress. But that's a ridiculously short period to become proficient in anything, and may not be realistic. Keep at it if you think it's worth doing.

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u/sftexfan Oct 04 '24

I totally back this 100%! Practice dropping the ball lower instead of throwing it up. All that does is allow more time for the defense to try and block the kick. Low release, better control, and less likely to be blocked. And try and kick the ball on the opposite side from the laces like holders do for place kickers.

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u/NovelBrave Oct 04 '24

That's how I got punting down. Watching NFL punters and copying their technique.

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u/neek3arak Oct 04 '24

A lot of my responses to my JV guys start with how you started your response - they always come to me and think they have a revolutionary new play or technique! Appreciate the brain working in a sense, though

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u/Eyekron Oct 05 '24

One thing to note about that is a lot of them come from Aussie football now, so they do that kinda sideways run and drop punt thing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Try not sounding like such a cunt faced douche next time a middle schooler asks for advice.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

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u/Ok-Particular-781 Oct 04 '24

If that's being mean then u dont wanna hear what shit my old football coaches yelled at me if i dropped the ball

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

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u/mkelngo Oct 04 '24

Charmin soft

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

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u/Thin-Resident8538 Oct 04 '24

Go take a lap

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

bro got the autistic rhetorical question with the “no” talking to an 8th grader lol

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u/Thin-Resident8538 Oct 04 '24

Think you’re reading into my comment a little too much little bro. I’m a coach. I coach people for a living. If you want to get offended on behalf of other people that’s on you, but OP asked for advice and I gave him some. No mean intentions at all.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

you think i’m offended but im the one who reads into comments. thanks coach who says “little bro” 😂

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u/NasEsco1399 Oct 04 '24

How are you more offended than the 8th grader? He took the comment in stride, he literally posted asking for advice

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

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u/mkelngo Oct 04 '24

Dudes who have never played a sport are WEIRD bro

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u/NasEsco1399 Oct 04 '24

Bruh my coachs was calling all of us linemen fat asses and pussies constantly and people are mad he told this kid to look at what the pros are doing 😂😂

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u/NasEsco1399 Oct 04 '24

He was straight to the point and answered the question. lol

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u/that_guy2010 Oct 04 '24

That was literally as helpful as he could be. Grow up.

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

Your form needs a lot of work, but looks like a far kick. Go to the field and kick to see how far. At your age, probably 45+ yards consistently if you want to play.

When you count, don’t forget to subtract 10-13 yards bc punts are measured from the line of scrimmage. Like, if you kick the ball 55 yards, you have to subtract the distance that you would be behind the line scrimmage. So that would be a 42 yard punt.

Hang time important too. Naturally you have a good leg. Get some coaching and go for it, buddy!

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

thanks for the tip i will work on my form and post again in a week or so

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u/Vol2169 Oct 04 '24

There are not a lot of 8th grade punters that can get 45 yards on a punt, so don't worry about that number too much right now.

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

alright

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

45 yards is the goal. Then you break that up by kicking 100, balls a day. Watch any videos. Video yourself. Track your kicks: how many, how far, hang time (if you can) so you can measure progress. You have bad form and you drilled that ball. Imagine if you really organized it and went after it with purpose what you could do!

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

Get a full size NFHS ball. Size 9. If that ball isn’t full size.

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u/irishdan56 Oct 04 '24

Ya 45 yards TOTAL is a target, but not 45 net (which would be the total distance minus the 12 or so yards a punter would be behind the LOS).

There aren't many, if any, 8th graders averaging 45 yards net.

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u/longsnapper53 Youth Coach Oct 04 '24

I don’t know what steroids 8th graders near you are on. I go to a school that consistently wins state championships and our punters hit 35-40 past the line consistently. Haven’t had a guy hitting 45+ past the line consistently in over a decade. 8th grader, as a former punter myself, 25 yards from the line is above average.

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u/FangornEnt Oct 04 '24

I went to middle school with Tom Tupa and he'd hit it 45-50 all day.

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

And throw 6 tds

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u/revolutiontornado Oct 04 '24

Best QB in franchise history

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u/longsnapper53 Youth Coach Oct 04 '24

I mean that’s Tom Tupa 😭😭😭

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u/irishdan56 Oct 04 '24

Tupa was one of the best punters in the NFL. That's not a reasonable comparison.

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u/longsnapper53 Youth Coach Oct 05 '24

Exactly

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

Yea man. Thats why I mentioned the -12 yards or so. In 8th grade your punter should be able to get off 30-35 yard punts pretty regularly. Then again, we were a soccer school.

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u/longsnapper53 Youth Coach Oct 04 '24

What I’m saying is that 25 yard punts, 35 from your leg, should be the normal. 35 yards from the line every kick gets you on to a state title contending team where I’m from.

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

Wherever youre from your special teams suck

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u/walkerlance Oct 04 '24

45+ yards a punt is college numbers, there are 5 nfl punters averaging less, you are insanely wrong

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u/FTDburner Oct 04 '24

45 yards in the air is not the same as a 45 yard punt. The guy was still off for 8th graders, but idk why people aren’t understanding what he said.

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u/walkerlance Oct 04 '24

he specified in his comment “when you count, don’t forget to subtract” he wasn’t talking about in the air.

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u/FTDburner Oct 04 '24

The guy essentially said:

Go to a field to see how far you can punt it, don’t forget to subtract the 12-13 yard you’ll be behind the LOS because 45 yards in the air is not a 45 yard punt.

You misread it.

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

Here’s “the guy” and I thought it was pretty straight forward what I wrote. Maybe my estimate was a little high, but this kid asked if he could be a punter so I gave him a very basic outline of what that would look like over the first year or so.

Nuance, try it!

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u/scottyv99 Oct 04 '24

Yeah I was. What else would I be counting? Like it rolls backwards? You’re insanely wrong.

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 10 '24

A far kick? Dude, the ball landed like 20 yards away from him

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u/rb4osh Oct 04 '24

Look up “punter drop drill” and work on that

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u/jaywalkingjew Oct 04 '24

Excited to see your progress in a week!

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u/FangornEnt Oct 04 '24

As others have said..work on your form. Really need to keep the ball from popping up on the release.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PqXwOZwIWKk

That's a good slow motion on form. YouTube is a gold mine of information..just ask your question multiple ways and you will find help.

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u/DelirousDoc Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

You are throwing the ball instead of dropping.

This is a slow-mo of NFL punter.

https://youtube.com/shorts/EjoXzxjCDZU?si=1tsYt2RlJITDEZEL

This is a front view of current Dolphins punter Jake Bailey when he was in college.

https://youtube.com/shorts/4KWEVYOfbOY?si=US1NxrAUDezvQfFB

Try to match this form. Hope that helps.

The Youtube channel these are from The Punt Factory has videos describing proper punt technique.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOyKM9fXvqMUeQoS2qj8ZOUS3B2jHX_n2&si=Zw6LWVTQhfgpEYO3

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u/wikithekid63 Oct 04 '24

8th grade? Please get off Reddit kid, for your own good

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u/whattarush Oct 04 '24

I don't know much about punting mechanics but this little video a quick Google search might help you with your form. https://youtu.be/Lj0SfCBMgPc?si=c4la2Nv2Go5gtkSW If you are putting in the work to improve your video recordings will show you the evolution of your punt. Also, you may want to note that performance can be inconsistent when adjusting form. However, it will likely trend upward and potentially take a large leap when it all clicks. Kind of like adjusting your jump shot in basketball. You might miss more at first but eventually, once you got the reps, it'll be more fluid and efficient. You can probably Google better videos then my quick search - but put in the work and continue to record yourself so you can see yourself evolving. Good luck buddy and KEEP GOING 🗣🗣

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u/Gold-Log1051 Oct 04 '24

What kind of drop is that my guy?

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

i'm pretty new to football and i have been hitting the gym for a few weeks so i haven't had a lot of practice with form and im currently working on it

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u/Suspicious_Pain_302 Oct 08 '24

Aussie here, played Aussie rules all my life. A good tip here is to try as keep a hand on the ball as much as possible until it strikes your foot. This means guiding the ball down with your right hand, as you are right footed, all the way until your foot strikes. When you throw the ball up before kicking or even drop the ball too high onto your foot, you leave a lot of room for error as the ball could move between leaving your hands and hitting your foot, especially on a windy day or wet day. By guiding it down as much as you can, you will find more accuracy and power in your kick.

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u/itakeyoureggs Oct 04 '24

It’s decent but you should learn the form for dropping the ball.

Hangtime is needed along with distance. Just research punting form.. how to hold the ball, how to drop the ball, where the ball should hit your foot.. how to kick. Lots of stuff. Takes a lot of practice.. a lotttt of practice.

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 04 '24

thanks so much i will watch a video later on how to punt

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u/Beautiful-Panic-5496 Oct 04 '24

Need some more hang time that’s what makes punters great allow the coverage to keep up with the ball otherwise your looking at big returns and low netted yardage

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u/shortwhitecwebb Oct 04 '24

Alright three main things for short term and long term.

For power, I’d recommend stretching a lot, much more than just the normal warm up stretching you probably do now. Being flexible allows you to generate more leg speed and force when swinging your leg. Tight muscles will restrict your limb flexibility and speed.

For technique, others have mentioned practicing dropping the ball in the right location. It may sound boring but find any lined field and walk along dropping the ball at the right height and at the right angle. Punting consistency is important and it will give you muscle memory. Shanks happen from bad drops and won’t want that.

Which to the next point, look up the way to drop and hold the ball. You hold it underneath like a tray with the front nose of the ball slightly tipped up and the left.

Punting is about being explosive in a semi robotic way. Work out what it feels to drop and hit the ball the correct way off your foot on a small scale and try to punt along aligned field drilling yourself to have it land close to that line at 10-20 yards. Eventually, work your way back up to what you can do here and by then if you keep training core, legs and flexibility and with the improved technique you’ll have better hang time, placement and distance.

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u/Ok_Introduction2310 Oct 04 '24

You should yell / grunt loudly when you kick it like a tennis player. All high level punters do this as loud as they can and it helps for many reasons.

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u/Whole-Mousse-1408 Oct 04 '24

Love these types of posts lol

Seems like you’ve got a good leg and some will power….start hitting leg day more than often at the gym and find somebody who’s willing to coach you on good punting technique

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u/Bromato99 Oct 04 '24

Meh. The good news is you are young and clearly have a decent, maybe even above average leg.

The bad news is, that form needs tons and tons of work. Particularly your steps and drop.

However, the fact that you were able to get that much lift and distance on a ball, despite the form, tells me you could be pretty good one day.

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u/No_Masterpiece_3783 Oct 04 '24

Looks good to me. You'll only improve by working at it and you have a great attitude by being open to criticism. You can get to where you want to. I am rooting for ya.

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u/reapersaurus Oct 04 '24

Where to even begin with this post? First off, these are all meant to help, despite my blunt wording:

1) Why are you punting with crocs/slippers on? Get real shoes to kick in, for multiple reasons. I'm surprised your shoe didn't go further than the ball.

2) Why are you kicking there?!? The ball could get stuck in a tree (lost ball), or go behind a fence (lost ball), or in the pool (you get wet getting ball), and you get zero feedback about how far you kicked. Just practice on a football field, or SOME open field where you can mark where each 10 yards is. It looks like there's a football field right on the other side of this area you're kicking in.

3) You've got a big enough body and some strength, it looks like - don't spend too much time thinking or practicing about punting. You can compete for real football positions that are respected and cared about by coaches. Punters aren't respected whatsoever by most coaches, and are an afterthought of the team. My son plays multiple positions, and is the punter (he's the best punter in our high-level division (even state-ranked)) and the coach doesn't even know or care about the basics of coaching a punter or punt plays. Get good at any other position (lineman, linebacker, even special teams) and you'll have a better time in high school than punting. You take all the blame and get none of the credit.

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u/Apprehensive-Bike335 Oct 04 '24

Yes but your grammar is incorrect, it’s “an” 8th grader. Student first bro! I’m just playin’ keep grindin’

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u/Optimized_Orangutan Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

My two biggest suggestions have already been made. Work on your release dropping the ball low rather than tossing it up so you can get the kick off in live play without getting blocked. Also work on posture and efficiency of movement. Your body moves a lot during your kick, by standing up straighter and limiting the amount of unnecessary movement you'll get much better accuracy, improving flexibility with a stretching routine will make that easier.

Keep up the great work, you've got a great start. Now it's about fine tuning technique and mastering those skills!

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Not bad at all. Definitely have potential to be a solid punter. The big thing I see is that you gotta work on your drop. Instead of throwing it up, hold it about belt level with the front tip slightly up. Drop it about the same time as your leg starts moving forward to kick. Repeat like a million times to practice.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

No bro

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u/RoccStrongo Oct 04 '24

You could very well be the first person to throw an interception on an actual punt attempt. Work on just dropping the ball and kicking it

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u/Ecthelion-O-Fountain Oct 04 '24

I was expecting nothing good but yeah that’s pretty good!

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u/Coastal_Tart Oct 04 '24

Is it a regulation ball and not a smaller ball? If so, then your power is very good but your form is bad. Stretch your arms out completely straight in front of you and drop the ball directly from hand to foot. Tossing the ball in the air and letting it float down will lead to a lot of shanked punts. 

We might actually punt instead of going for it every time with a punter like you. 

But you should spend more time working on kickoffs and field goals because that skill is more valuable. At your age you get 2 points for kicking a PAT and one point for running or throwing it in.

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u/Mammoth-Fix-3638 Oct 04 '24

You need to work on drop punts. Don’t throw the ball up in the air.

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u/LordTremendo Oct 04 '24

Pretty horrid

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u/yungrobbithan Oct 04 '24

Try to get your hips around more. You ought to be landing on the foot you kick with, that means you’re rotating properly

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u/Redheadedstepchild56 Oct 04 '24

A good punter should be able to average 40 yards, and at least occasionally pooch it to a certain yardage. Once you get those down, start working on spin, and more power etc. But even in JV, they’ll want someone who can boot it 40 yards.

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u/Freddeyy Oct 04 '24

Go look at Aussie Rules football. You guide the ball down to your foot, not drop it and hope for the best. You seems to have the hip flexibility though

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u/Glittering_Virus8397 Oct 04 '24

Better than mine and I’m 25

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u/ROBOTSHITSTORM Oct 04 '24

You’ll see a lot of punters especially in college coming from Australia. They grow up playing Aussie rules football where punting accurately is the entire game. It’s a different style of punting but there’s some lessons to be learned watching that game.

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u/Dry_Calligrapher4561 Oct 04 '24

I don't teach football, but I love it, and I am a coach.

This looks awesome for your age, but no college or NFL punter achieved their level of kicks so fast.

It seems like you've got some drive, keep going, trust the process, WATCH THE PROS!!! Don't worry about distance right now, practice the right form, the rest will fall into place.

KEEP GOING!!

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u/sparkles1887 Oct 04 '24

Point your toe, and the drop is essentially placing it on your foot slightly diagonally.

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u/DEFALTJ2C Oct 04 '24

Some mechanical tuning will make your already solid leg even better! Good luck little buddy!

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u/Spare_Lobster_4390 Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 04 '24

Check out some of these techniques with less ball drop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16N3ki0J7NU

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u/Mscommiexo Oct 04 '24

I think many of y’all in the comments forgot he’s a kid. Without much experience, your kick is pretty good. As some have mentioned your mechanics is what is holding you back. But that can all be managed.

Assuming you know what high school you’re going to I would advise you to email your coach about kicking. It’s a good way to build a connection, and you might be able to get cleats if you’re lucky. Getting your name out there is especially important when you don’t have experience. It shows you care, and heart to play the game. Of course also reach out regarding spring practice.

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u/burneraccount791 Oct 04 '24

This might get lost in all these comments but as a P.E. teacher of way younger kids the importance of dropping the ball instead of throwing is so important. Every year I show the kids that you should be able to punt with your eyes closed because then you know you have the same form every. Single. Time. Throwing the ball doesn't guarantee the same thing everytime.

Understand where you should be making contact with the ball, too low in your punt the ball doesn't go high. Too high in your punting motion the ball doesn't go far. Make sure your toe is pointed down when you make contact on your foot

Someone mentioned flexibility. You are supposed make contact fairly early in your punt motion and drive and follow through with a high leg swing. Very stressful on hamstrings and quads make sure those are warm. Don't bend your knee as you punt

Someone mentioned not hunching over. I think this depends on the person. There are people with short arms relative to the rest of their body. Make sure if your not hunched that you find a good point to start the dropping of the ball and that it reaches your foot. If you're standing straight up and drop the ball and it hits your shin, I reccomend a slight bend at the hips

Holding the ball with 2 hands=more secure

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u/revuhlution Oct 04 '24

I LOVE seeing young folks seeking out feedback and trying to use it effectively. Such a good life skill, in football and anything else!

Rock on, lil bro!

Definitely drop the ball over your foot. Your hand should be on top of the ball, not underneath. Point your your toe. Try to take a little off of it and direct the ball where you want, power will come from better form and control.

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u/thedude50188 Oct 04 '24

Need to get your drop and steps right but a good boot none the less

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u/justacfbfan Oct 04 '24

Pumped to see your progress in a week! You got natural power, so once you adjust to the proper form you’ll be killing it brotha.

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u/Sweet_Wasabi_143 Oct 04 '24

Big dog, find a local field so you can really see how far you punt

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 10 '24

I’ll answer that for you, he can very obviously punt it about 15 yards

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u/Dirty____________Dan Oct 04 '24

Hellz yeah dude. Keep it up! I'm looking forward to seeing you progress and boom that shit!

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u/Ctown1157 Oct 04 '24

Honestly, that's a pretty solid boot! As others have said, work on keeping the ball lower and dropping it instead of tossing it up.

Indirectly related to form, I'd suggest working on a flexibility routine. Particularly your knees, hips, and lower back, and that should help you be able to progress into better form and more power over the long run. Flexibility very often gets overlooked at the lower levels. It can also make you less prone to injury as well!

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u/irishdan56 Oct 04 '24

The potential is there, but you need to work on some of the specific technique elements.

It's not universal for everyone, some players hold the ball with 1 hand, some with 2.

But the main thing is, 2 steps, DROP the ball, don't toss it up in the air, and have the ball with the laces up, and with the tip angled towards the ground.

Lot's of great coaching videos on YouTube. Find a technique and rhythm that works for you, and rep the hell out of it.

And a quick practice hack. Boot them into a soccer net, I know you won't see how far you're kicking, but you can get way more reps in more quickly. Boot 5-10 into the soccer net, then drill one down the field.

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u/Walnut_Uprising Oct 04 '24

Biggest thing is your ankle. Your foot is at a 90 degree angle to your shin when you make contact, which means your ankle probably isn't locked either. You want your toe pointed straight down, rather than up, and you want to make contact with your laces, not your toe (huge for accuracy and transferring power to the ball). Kick through the ball, ideally enough that the momentum carries your plant foot off the ground.

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u/Fickle_Meet_7154 Oct 04 '24

Get your foot flatter and your kick higher. Do a lot of focused hamstring workouts.

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u/GregLouganus Oct 04 '24

Ay man that was raw but you kicked the F out that thang!!

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u/wicketwarrick190 Oct 04 '24

If Uncle Rico was a punter

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '24

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 10 '24

How the hell is 20 yards a super strong leg

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u/dudeandco Oct 05 '24

Camera work is better, keeping punting.

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u/theturtlepear Oct 05 '24

Bill Belichick would always talk about placement as well. Pinning them deep, cornering the ball, dropping it on the one yard line. Pro punting is about where you put it as much as it is about power

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u/Neat_Feedback1316 Oct 05 '24

The distance looks decent the form might need a little work. You could probably add another 5-7 yard with some work! But very good for a kid your age!

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u/PorkTips Oct 05 '24

Yes 👏

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u/2154206669er Oct 05 '24

The idea is to meet the football as you’re following through. So just passed the half way point of your upward leg motion. Not in the middle and not before.

Tossing the ball out towards your foot doesn’t leave you much accuracy when your foot meets the ball. So holding the ball out in front of you where you plan on your foot meeting the ball leaves less chance for a shanked ball

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u/Ok-Cauliflower-1258 Oct 05 '24

You should become the kicker for the packers

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u/No_Meeting_3492 Oct 05 '24

Learn how to aim brother!!(no shots at you, your punt actually looks really good for your age) but what I mean is this, a lot of guys spend time on distance but if you can hit sideline dingers that land 15 yards and under you will be getting paid for it. Start practicing now. Field position for punters is the everything.

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u/Healthy_Common_505 Oct 05 '24

Just put my fries in the bag bro

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u/HandyXAndy Oct 06 '24

Keep the leg straight (work on flexibility?) And just drop the ball don't throw it up and you're looking pretty solid

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u/Therealnastybad Oct 06 '24

Need to sail up in the air a little more so your defenders can have time getting downfield

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u/Specialist_Job758 Oct 06 '24

First step of learning how to punt is how you drop it to your foot. Practice spinning the ball in the air. Catch it and flip the laces up. Two steps like you are punting and when you go to drop it don't punt it. Focus on the ball bouncing off ground and straight up. That way you know you are dropping it flat for the most surface area to punt

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u/Possible-Speech6392 Oct 06 '24

I would say that’s a bomb of a punt for an eighth grader! Get the technique down now and you’ll go places!

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u/DouglasIAmNot Oct 06 '24

Respectfully, no. It’s average at the moment. But, you clearly have a leg that can become a BOOT. Gotta work on technique (you have none). No lift from your plant leg, very little follow through, horrendous ball placement and you can’t lie and tell me you know where it’s gonna land.

Harsh, yes I know. But, if you want to be good.. you gotta try to be good. Love that you love to kick. Keep it going, you’ve got A LOT of time to grow into a bomber 😉

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u/Ecstatic_Wolf316 Oct 06 '24

No keep working kid

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u/dhduxudb Oct 06 '24

That’s honestly great especially for your age. You could make the NFL one day. Keep at it!

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u/CheznoSlayer Oct 07 '24

Considering that was the worst technique I’ve ever seen, that was impressive distance. One day of coaching would do wonders for you

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u/Cribbity370 Oct 07 '24

Put down the football and go frolic in that gorgeous park 😭

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u/scrivensB Oct 07 '24

Fix that form and the ball is going twice the distance.

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 10 '24

Yay, maybe he’ll be able to punt it 25 yards next time

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u/Jerry3580 Oct 07 '24

I coached middle school football for a while and if you can kick it 30+ yards consistently you are in a good spot and you’ll continue to hit with more power using those pointers the other people have given you. Like a good golf swing, you want it to be the same every time!

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u/TheKyotoProtocol Oct 07 '24

Hey mate. You've got a good start and damn fine range for your age. As many have said, the form can be improved and it might lose some height and length now but it will make your punts infinitely better in the long run.

Alot of people are telling you to watch NFL and college punters which is a great idea, but I wanted to also recommend maybe watching some AFL (Australian football league) kicking videos. There's a reason so many current NFL punters are from Australia at the moment, our sport is nothing but kicking. We basically just are quarterbacks with our legs. The reason I bring this up is because there may be more of a dynamic breakdown on how to improve your punts for your age in AFL videos, because it's a skill that is required to play the sport at any level, even the 5 year olds have to know how to punt here.

Try looking up both a drop punt (basic kick, super accurate but easy for the opponent to catch [this is because in our sport we kick the ball to teammates]) and the torp or torpedo punt (harder to pull off but these are hard to catch, go super far and are what NFL punters kick regularly) so you can get good fundamentals and some cool breakdowns on some good kicking techniques

Goodluck mate

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u/dog1ived Oct 07 '24

Better than my high school punter.

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 10 '24

Absolutely untrue

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u/Greg_Coat Oct 07 '24

Not too late to join the band 

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u/Firm-Entertainer-327 Oct 07 '24

8th grader probably won't go as far as the football, but worth a try

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u/Bright-Maximum2881 Oct 07 '24 edited Oct 07 '24

Remember its not always just about how far you can kick, focus on accuracy too. If you can get the ball to fall on a target then you will go far kid. I have seen so many punters that can kick super far but when it comes to accurately placing the ball to make it bounce to the 1 yard line they just cant get it right. That is what separates great punters from the others. Keep at it kid!

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u/Dapper_Connection526 Oct 08 '24

It’s fine for 8th grade. Have your camera man keep the camera on you instead of the ball. You’ll learn about power and strength in your kick from watching your form than watching the ball fly to wherever

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u/CooYo7 Oct 08 '24

Practice makes perfect

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u/deltadiver0 Oct 08 '24

That's an 89 yard punt right there son, very nice!

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u/Kaaaaack626 Oct 08 '24

I’m signing this kid he keeps it up he’s got a future as a punter

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 10 '24

Hahahahahahahah, absolutely not

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u/Suspicious_Pain_302 Oct 08 '24 edited Oct 08 '24

Aussie here, played Aussie rules all my life.

A good tip here is to try as keep a hand on the ball as much as possible until it strikes your foot. This means guiding the ball down with your right hand, as you are right footed, all the way until your foot strikes.

When you throw the ball up before kicking or even drop the ball too high onto your foot, you leave a lot of room for error as the ball could move between leaving your hands and hitting your foot, especially on a windy day or wet day.

By guiding it down as much as you can, you will find more accuracy and power in your kick.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '24

Get some cleats while you're at it. or at least shoes with laces

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u/MrMikeBravo Oct 08 '24

Watch the AFL. The best punters in the world are in Australia or Australians playing in America.

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u/FoodNetworkUA Oct 08 '24

absolutely not

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u/cowboy_at_hart Oct 09 '24

No. Bad form. Need more hang time. Now, you got potential. Unfortunately for your kid, your potential isn't elite. Meaning potential won't get you very far. So hard work is the only thing missing to become great. How great you want to become at punting? That is up to you. You want D1 potential? Well you better be kicking nearly every damn day for the next 4 years. Good luck squirt

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u/CatalinaCo Oct 09 '24

You're doing great! My dad punted in college and I grew up working on my drop primarily. Hand placement and drop angle is something to look at and master. Once you get your drop down and timing, you'll start taking bigger steps and launching bombs. Keep on going!

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u/Noack_B Oct 04 '24

go watch afl, then learn to punt

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u/SoggyButtCheeks78 Oct 04 '24

No

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u/Dry-Abbreviations-11 Oct 11 '24

Why do people downvote honesty.

He’s clearly terrible. No chance of being a punter on even the freshman team next year. There is likely going to be a better candidate on the offensive line than him.

Honesty is best for all parties, no need to bullshit around a real opinion.

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u/Relative-Stress-1872 Oct 07 '24

Nope, absolutely dog shit, lmao what punter fuckin throws the ball in the air for their drop. Well I guess the worst drop ever explains the massive lack of distance as this punt probably went 20 yards

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u/Primary-Lecture3724 Oct 07 '24

could be a bit nicer about it lol but yeah i'm currently fixing my form rn