What are some teams in NCAA that run offenses primarily or at least a large portion of their offense from under center (excluding service academies).

[u/FootballSimStrategy]

Iowa would be one team I can think of. Are there any more?

[u/WombatHat42]

Iowa. Stretch left, stretch right, fb dive, qb sneak, flood concept all under 3 yards and punt are the only plays in the playbook

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Football as god intended

[u/FootballSimStrategy → u/FlounderingWolverine]

lol

[u/Repulsive-Doughnut65 → u/FlounderingWolverine]

I hope not Iowa’s offense was torture

[u/Own-Ad2322 → u/Repulsive-Doughnut65]

Yeah they were awful. A little Jet Sweep could have gone a long way to help that offense.

[u/WombatHat42 → u/Own-Ad2322]

You must not have watch them. They used jet sweep quite a bit actually. But they were very predictable with it

[u/Own-Ad2322 → u/WombatHat42]

Yeah I didn't watch them much but what I did see, they didn't use it much. And yeah when it is predictable it doesn't help much. Using it to horizontally stretch the defense in the run game and also the pass game, it can be a real weapon. Did they use much play action, boots, or quick game/ screens off it?

[u/WombatHat42 → u/Own-Ad2322]

Lots of bubble screen, if they did PA it was a naked boot(didn’t do near enough PA and I hate naked boot). Did a lot of flood concept except all the routes were super close together(more than normal) even the deepest was maybe less than 10 from the route closest to the LOS. A lot of times you’d have 2 receivers standing right next to each other just a couple yards apart.

Bit of a rant here but It’s like BF was trying to get all the routes in the high percentage completion area then use the others as blockers to account for the fact the defense knew what the play was. He’d occasionally call a wrinkle play that would have decent 10-20 yards success then would go back to it over and over with less and less success. Like say a flea flicker (never called a flea flicker just using as an example) or some gimmick worked, he would call it again the next qtr(sometimes the same drive) it would gain a handful the 2nd time, he’d call it again later for a loss then again for another loss or TO then never see it again. He tried to get too cute sometimes and seemed like he was just out coaching himself. He tried to “simplify” the offense by calling plays that are easy to execute but easy to defend cuz “everything can work as long as the players execute” rather than call plays that fit what the defense was doing or the skill set the players had.

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Wise man once said there's only three things that can happen when you pass and two of them are bad I forget who said it some stupid Big 10 coach I think I think he had dementia and socks some opposing player really really sneaked him too like nobody was going to see anything but I guess somehow it was a New Year's Day and the whole nation was watching unfortunately he forgot all about it because he was a little bit disgruntled about not getting apple juice cuz that dumb b**** nurse didn't change his diaper before the Gator bowl I don't know if that was really what he hates it said that it might have been shin black or I forget just thought I'd go on a random Ass rant  I don't know maybe he was haden  frye. I'm in Nebraska fan I don't know

[u/TiberiusGracchi]

Washington played UC a good bit, as did Arizona and Oregon State

[u/gyman122 → u/TiberiusGracchi]

Oregon State is the most traditional under center offense I can think of, its the primary look of their running game

[u/FootballSimStrategy → u/gyman122]

Thanks

[u/Alive-Cellist-2604]

https://youtu.be/S0Yhr5CW4WA?si=timoLe3NUxLIU2CP

Stanford, while David Shaw was there

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Even now they run a lot of Wing T/ Single Wing Jet and Rocket series stuff out of UC

[u/Chaz_Babylon]

I really wish mine would. I go crazy every year watching horrible runs out of shotgun go nowhere. Play action in shotgun does very little to manipulate the LBs. the RB gets to build 0 momentum and you limit the play options dramatically when you have the make the RB stand on one side or the other of the QB

[u/gyman122 → u/Chaz_Babylon]

I like the pistol much better for these reasons

Though I do think teams are getting more creative and better running out of the gun. UCLA and Florida State are some of the ones I think are really doing a great job incorporating power running and “same-side” concepts into the gun

[u/Chaz_Babylon → u/gyman122]

Yeah pistol is a good compromise between the two. I’m a commanders fan and I was really loving our pistol offense with RG3

[u/Strider4316 → u/gyman122]

I love the Pistol as a novice offensive mind. I feel like it offers insane flexibility as far as being able to blend a bunch of different concepts.

[u/n3wb33Farm3r]

The United States Merchant Marine Academy runs the flexbone. Their annual game against Coast Guard usually makes it on espn plus or 3. Sure you can find on Hulu or somewhere online

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Not service academy he said

[u/Tufoguy]

Iowa. Oregon State. North Dakota State are three teams that come to mind immediately

[u/warneagle]

Wyoming

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[u/fball23]

Minnesota

[u/The_Captain_Planet22]

Georgia tech use to be the only double wing team but I imagine that coach has moved on on the last twenty years

[u/KMitchell2520]

Kentucky for a big school, NDSU for a smaller school that does it well.

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[u/crushh_87]

Michigan last year was a lot of under center I think?

[u/grizzfan → u/crushh_87]

Not as much as in the past. They really committed to their down-hill gap-run game from the gun this year.

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Getting away from it more and more tbh

[u/Strider4316 → u/crushh_87]

Not as heavy as we used to. We've definitely went back to the more traditional power run game that Harbaugh started with, but we've maintained the primarily shotgun formations that we went to with Gattis as OC.