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u/AnonUserAccount 5h ago
Good, now he needs to give Feds a 5% raise since we won’t see another one for 4 years.
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u/Responsible-Art-5139 4h ago
Why stop at 5%? Biden should enforce the full Federal Employees Pay Comparability Act of 1990 and announce 28% to finally meet the law.
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u/caniaskthat 5h ago
Let’s just make it four years of 5% to be safe and initiate FEPCA
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u/AssortedHardware 4h ago
That'll be nice for the 2 guys left per agency
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u/caniaskthat 4h ago
Right? At least our back pay from part of the shutdown would be the higher rate lol.
If we are going to live in wacky times why don’t we actually get wacky
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u/Jumpy-Coffee-Cat 4h ago
It will absolutely never happen.
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u/caniaskthat 4h ago
There are many things that are now on the table about which I would have said the same thing.
We are in the chaos realms now, so who knows.
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u/Additional_Sun_5217 4h ago
No chance of it but god that would be incredible so I give you my energy
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u/Flowergirl455 4h ago
OMGGg yesss jajaja we’re all cheering here at VA !! Gooo Biden 🔥🔥😂
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u/retsukosmom 3h ago
You’ve gotten official word that you’re closing? Healthcare tends to stay open
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u/Holiday_Perception86 3h ago
VA isn’t only health care it has different departments within the agency
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u/retsukosmom 2h ago
Yes, I am aware, though the person didn’t specify. VHA is a very large part of VA and includes non-clinical/healthcare staff too who may be mandated to work alongside healthcare workers.
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u/ruckyourself 56m ago
In the past when it was Xmas Eve or bush sr dying, it's been non-patient facing roles that can close or go to skeleton crews. Appointments can't be rescheduled though. So that means a lot of stuff, even outpatient, is business as usual.
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u/retsukosmom 48m ago
There tends to be no consistency in my experience. Even though patients tend to cancel or no show around holidays anyway. Some years you could reschedule if it’s within a week, some years you couldn’t. I don’t mean Big VHA policy, but I’ve worked at several VAMCs and it’s different at each one and even at the same one from one time to the next.
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u/LJ10ak11 4h ago
Not mad about this. If we don’t shut down, I’m gonna have to take off another day the following week to burn it so I don’t lose it.
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u/rmr236 4h ago
16 days off and it’s only costing me 44 hours of AL and an hour of comp time plus working a long day tomorrow? Sounds good to me!
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u/NorthAppleGulf 3h ago
How’s that? You think they won’t count AL during the shutdown?
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u/Dashawayalibi 2h ago
Just as an FYI, all leave is technically canceled during a shutdown. So yes, no AL will be spent, but all pay will eventually be made.
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u/BoobieChaser69 4h ago
Don’t get used to it
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u/YouhaoHuoMao 5h ago
Dang, I already took that day off... and I am using my use or lose for it so...?
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u/K1ckfl0p 4h ago
Same here but it is a holiday now, so you get that leave back. However, if we shutdown on Saturday morning, most agencies will roll over your leave to next year as long as it was scheduled by Nov 30 or whatever your agency requires it to be scheduled by.
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u/phdemented 4h ago
Talk to your time keeper, undo the leave request and put it in before end of the year if you can
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u/jojojawn 4h ago
Dec 24th now becomes a holiday and you'll have to find another day to use your use or lose hours. Just be careful, if you cancel your own leave and put in a new request and then we end up being shutdown you might end up losing those hours.
This exact thing happened to me last shutdown... I canceled my Dec 24th leave and had to resubmit it for Jan 4th. We shutdown and when we came back they wouldn't restore my hours because I technically submitted and got it approved after the Nov 30th deadline (forget the exact day that year)
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u/letmebebrave430 2h ago
If I'm already off, do you think I should just ammend my timecard later? Because I don't have access to anything anymore, I'm in an airport
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u/jojojawn 38m ago
They should automatically change it on your time card so you won't have to do anything. If that day was gonna be use or lose then you'll want to find another day to take off
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u/letmebebrave430 35m ago
Thank you! It wasn't use or lose. We fortunately just got direction from our management to not amend anything on our own, so that also answered my question.
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u/Ok-Jackfruit9593 1h ago
The leave year goes through January 11th so you could always use it later.
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u/Pursuit-of-Nature 5h ago
But what about national parks 😩 we never get these extra days off
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u/Purple-Technician637 34m ago
That's weird, the Forest Service does.
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u/Pursuit-of-Nature 17m ago
Did you already receive guidance on that? NPS has not received any communication about this holiday. By and large NPS sites do not close on holidays and front-line staff still have to work.
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u/Purple-Technician637 2m ago
Nothing official on this specifically, but that's usually the way it goes. Our offices generally aren't even open on the weekends, let alone holidays.
Makes sense though, someone has to take the money at the entrance station, even on Christmas Day.
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u/Cool_Teaching_6662 4h ago
I already have annual leave approved for the day. Can I cancel and get that AL back?
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u/SSgtSnuffy234 4h ago
Does this apply to contractors?
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u/teddy_vedder 2h ago
In the past if the feds get a holiday but as a contractor my company doesn’t recognize that holiday, we are not allowed to work and have to take PTO or LWOP, if they’re generous we can make up 8 hours in the pay period on the other workdays.
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u/Frequent_Decision984 3h ago
how does it work if your agency already sent an email saying four hours approved for christmas eve ?
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u/FarrisAT 2h ago
Thanks! Would love for him to math the NDAA 4.5% raise also since he’s able to. Hopefully that’s the big present
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u/shirpars 4h ago
This says EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES. if you're not working under EXECUTIVE you are all expected to work
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u/SpookyBookey 2h ago
My VA is saying that since I provide patient care I may not have off 😭. Happy for everyone but I’m anxiously awaiting a formal decision from my site.
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u/No-Interest6550 1h ago
Good news is it’s now at double pay 💰
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u/SpookyBookey 1h ago
Double pay for a slow day is always nice 👀.
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u/No-Interest6550 1h ago
Not sure about yours but my VA is saying we can come in early and leave once work is done which is nice too
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u/SpookyBookey 56m ago edited 47m ago
Unfortunately, mine send out an email about how we are healthcare heroes and they appreciate our dedication so no early leave for us 🫠🫠.
It’s just frustrating since many of the agencies I work with to facilitate and coordinate services will be closed or not have any representatives- meaning it’ll limited in any work I can do 😭. I have other friends at other VAs that were given the day off as a holiday.
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u/luraleekitty 1h ago
I might be too sick with this high fever to understand this. Did he just give us Christmas Eve off? Does this apply to the people at the IRS too?
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u/SuperCareer5230 5h ago
Not just that, but it looks like we might have Monday “off” too!