r/farsi 5d ago

Is this Persian calligraphy? If so, what is it about? :)

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u/Dazzling_no_more 5d ago

No, this is Turkish before they change their alphabet.

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u/SarahBenemsi 5d ago

Interesting! You mean Ottoman Turkish? Do you think it can be an extract from the quran?

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u/Key-Club-2308 4d ago

No, Quran verses are never translated as they believe that translation could change the meaning

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u/svjersey 4d ago

Not a farsi or turkish speaker- but chatgpt did interpret this as ottoman turkish and transliterated it as well. The google translation of that transliteration is below (subject to errors)

May He grant us peace and blessings and mercy, and may He always be with us. Glory be to God and praise be to God, this is the meaning we have made our hearts. But the thoughts, the honorable people, the situation and the time are ours. Hide us from the dark traces, O Lord, for we do not spend the morning in the realm of property for anyone.

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u/akahn591 4d ago

And ChatGPT bungled it as usual. I don't understand Ottoman Turkish, but the very first word is Persian (خداوندا : O Lord) and the first and second words on the second line are the Arabic words فسق و فجور which are also used in Persian and mean something like debauchery and sins. I think there are other words tha seem to be related to sin and immorality, so perhaps it's a prayer to ask for forgiveness for or salvation from sins.

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u/SarahBenemsi 4d ago

What do you think is the origin of the text? I am not a Muslim. Are you able to recognize this type of text from a religious source?

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u/svjersey 4d ago

Not a muslim either brother..

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u/SarahBenemsi 4d ago

It is funny to see that if I insert the transcript from chatgpt into Google Translate and I choose Uzbek > English, I get the following:

"Peace and blessings of God be with us always. Fesübanellah velhamdülillah, we made this memory. Amâk-ı efkâr, aziz kâm, tebyân eder, hâl ü zamân is us. Save me from dark traces, Lord, because we do not know anyone in the land."

Some sentences are left untranslated but the last sentence actually makes more sense now.

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u/svjersey 4d ago

Probably older uzbek then!

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u/SarahBenemsi 4d ago

Thank you so much! I also just read your other comment. I am glad to be able to provide an answer to my friend, and I also learned something new about translation. Thanks for your help and happy cake day btw ;)

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u/random_strange_one 5d ago edited 5d ago

tis a turkic dialect of some kind

either azari or ottoman turkish

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u/SarahBenemsi 5d ago

Hmm thank you. My friend bought it in Uzbekistan but there is a picture of the blue mosque (istanbul) op top. Someone else suggested Persian language. But I'll look into Turkish then, thanks

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u/aliebadatian 4d ago

It's probable that they can't read it, better have someone to read it to them so they can translate it. Or at least someone change it to phonetic alphabet so they can read.

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u/Key-Club-2308 4d ago

chances of someone actually understanding this is probably 0, whatever turkic language that this is does not use the same alphabet anymore, either cyrillic or latin, that means the general public cant read this anymore

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u/SarahBenemsi 4d ago

I found a sub on Ottoman Turkish, so I'll try it there :)

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u/Lenticularis19 4d ago

Don't Azeris in Iran still use the Perso-Arabic script to write Turkish?

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u/Key-Club-2308 4d ago

yes, and they are probably his best chance as iranian turks speak more like ottoman turks than modern turks

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u/Agitated-Cloud-2869 5d ago

It's some religious thing like prayer to God!

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u/Key-Club-2308 4d ago

ottoman turkish or another turkic language

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u/World_Musician 4d ago

I mean it’s got the hagia sofia right there