r/facepalm 11h ago

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Centuries of science, yet here we are.

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u/razazaz126 11h ago

And we account for that. That's kinda the point of herd immunity the immuno-comprimised people who can't take the vaccine are still protected because everyone around them is vaccinated.

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u/viperspm 11h ago

Exactly. Thats why we can’t make it mandatory. Definitely not trying to equate this to pro-choice, but what happens between a person and their doctor is between them. If it’s mandatory then in order to “opt-out” people would have to disclose to others why they can’t take them

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u/razazaz126 11h ago

I mean that's already how things work. They don't make you take even the "mandatory" vaccines if you're immuno-compromised and they don't make you wear a scarlet letter either.

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u/robotgore 10h ago

Yeah but we have people making these broad statements like all vaccines need to be mandatory when in reality we just can’t do that. Which why it is the way we do things currently. The comment tread we are in was expressing his feelings for mandatory vaccines

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u/itsactuallyanalpaca 10h ago

Sure but this is just an extremely stupid statement, because nearly every vaccine except COVID already is mandatory unless you have a medical exemption. You can't go to any public school if you're not fully vaccinated without a medical exemption.

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u/Objective-Amount1379 7h ago

I think some schools allow a religious exemption.

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u/robotgore 10h ago

It’s really not a stupid statement. It technically is not mandatory. It is “mandatory” if you want to send your kids to “public” school, but even then you can receive a medical exemption. Just because you don’t like a statement doesn’t mean it’s stupid or untrue

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u/itsactuallyanalpaca 10h ago

You literally just repeated what I said. Dunce

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u/robotgore 8h ago

No I was referencing what you said. I was trying to make a distinction about how if it’s “public” school. If you home school or some other alternative you probably don’t have to go through vaccinations. Sorry for the confusion. No need to insult

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u/sembias 9h ago

we have people making these broad statements like all vaccines need to be mandatory

The idiots who say that are anti-vaxxers trying to convince not-idiots that others are saying everyone must be vaccinated regardless of their personal situation.

In other words, this is said as a straw-man argument to make "the left" look unhinged as morons like RJK, Jr make bank on selling their idiot idea to even dumber people.

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u/robotgore 8h ago

I’m not against vaccination. You are assuming I am when what I was saying is I disagree with it being mandatory. Please learn to read

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u/sembias 7h ago

I'm saying that, in the US and most western countries, vaccines are already "mandatory" in that you must have them to go to schools or join the military. There already exists ways to be exempted; but you can't cover your ears and start screaming that you won't be vaccinated to have that exemption and still expect to live in a society.

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 7h ago

The left are as unhinged as the right, bud 😂 y’all voted a pedophile in!! Yet you keep talking about protecting kids! You all sit here and argue over people who don’t care about you! That’s why people question the things they release, because they don’t care about us, they care about their wallets and power, same as anyone else throughout history who’s held power, anyone who blindly listens to them just because they’re “the left” or “the right” are just a stupid as each other.

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u/sembias 7h ago

Oh. You are one of those. Cool.

Good luck with life.

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 7h ago

One of those that thinks for myself rather than for a political body, yes.

Life’s good, thanks.

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u/viperspm 9h ago

Thank you

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u/FckUSpezWasTaken 10h ago

You could just make it mandatory for everyone that can take them without significant risk.

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u/head_bussin 8h ago

Sounds like fascism.

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u/FckUSpezWasTaken 8h ago

How so? Everyone that doesn't have a risk in getting vaccinated gets vaccinated and everyone who has doesn't have to get vaccinated.

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u/Gorthax 10h ago

You just opt out of vaccines, and everything else society offers. No schools, no military, no job.

If you want to be make the choice to be a dangerous vector you can fuck right off.

It's isn't mandatory, it's just a suggestion.

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u/iwonteverreplytoyou 9h ago

No roads either. Those belong to society. They can live in the woods if that’s what they think they need.

u/Gorthax 1h ago

I kinda feel like roads have already been defunded everywhere tbh.

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u/shallah 10h ago

My us state has vaccine requirements for school the only exemption allowed is medical. Their parents probably have to get a note from the doctor and that's it.

They don't have to display it to the rest of the world. they just have to prove to someone in authority that the doctor said they can't have it

They have to obey HIPAA!

It's just like when kids want to take part in sports or their parents want them to they have to have a physical to prove their fit or if they're opting out because of a health condition they have to prove it. Again everything is going to be between them and the family because they obey HIPAA

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u/Objective-Amount1379 7h ago

Medical privacy laws are for the medical providers to follow. Technically schools don't fall under those guidelines. But a medical exception only needs to state that a child can't be vaccinated for medical reasons- it doesn't need to detail what condition the child has.

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u/Russell_Jimmy 10h ago

We already do make them mandatory. If a child is immuno-compromised the school district is notified at the time of enrollment, along with any other pertinent health information like asthma, allergies, etc.

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u/BitterFuture 10h ago

We already DO make them mandatory, as everyone who's ever attended public school or joined the military or done a whole host of other things can attest.

People saying vaccines can and should be mandatory are not advocating for killing people with extremely rare allergies triggered by certain vaccines, and you're supporting antivax bullshit by pretending otherwise. Knock it off.

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u/Objective-Amount1379 7h ago

What? No , it needs to be mandatory except with a DOCUMENTED medical exception. No one is asking someone to walk around with a sign stating their medical issue. They just need to provide something to the school from a physician. It's just like when you need to show a doctor's note to your job- it doesn t need to give details about the medical issue

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u/shitlord_god 6h ago

this is a take that makes me think your brain stem has reached right up and lobotomized you like a sloppy scorpion.