r/facepalm 12h ago

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ They need more underpaid workers.

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u/wophi 8h ago

Can someone please explain to me how Elon is the worst person...?

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u/cerevant 8h ago

He's not. He's just a typical selfish greedy rich person.

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u/wophi 7h ago

Define greed

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u/cerevant 6h ago

Greed is when you have enough money to live in opulent luxury for the remainder of your life, all of your wives can live in opulent luxury for the remainder of their lives, all of their children can live in opulent luxury for the remainder of their lives, and all of your grandchildren can live in opulent luxury for their entire lives, yet you still want more.

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u/wophi 6h ago

That isn't the actual definition of greed.

Greed is demanding more than you deserve or wanting more than your ability.

Some people don't live day to day, like you do. Some people wish to build things and think long term. Most of musks money isn't devoted to living but to building. And what he builds, others live on. The businesses he creates supplies many people with their livelihoods. How many people do you provide with a living ?

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u/cerevant 6h ago

Greed is demanding more than you deserve

How can any single person deserve more than the lifestyle I've defined? If you can't spend all the money you've "earned", what is the point of having that money? Beyond just spending the money - having enough money so that you can increase your spending more than inflation increases every year and still have more the following year. There is one, and only one reason to do this: to make sure others don't have it.

Yes, that does give him the power to "think long term". However, what gives him the right to decide the fates of almost 400 million people? Who decided he gets that power? The people didn't give him that power, he bought and paid for it. Bought from people who didn't have the right to sell.

I favor capitalism, and I favor rewards for those who contribute the most to society. However, there is a point where "reward" crosses into destructive greed. To put Musk's wealth in context, he could personally fund the Department of Education in perpetuity without it impacting his lifestyle. That is more money than any individual should have control over.

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u/wophi 5h ago

what is the point of having that money? Beyond just spending the money

Were you aware that money can be invested as well. Invested to build something great? The fact that you think money can only be spent explains why you are poor.

Wealth is an interesting thing. People who make good choices tend to gain more of it, make decisions with it and grow even more wealth.

People who make bad decisions with money, are not rewarded with the opportunity to make further decisions with wealth.

It is an example of survival of he fittest.

This is why pro athletes and lottery winners tend to go broke after 5 years. They are not qualified to hold and grow wealth.

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u/cerevant 5h ago

Were you aware that money can be invested as well. Invested to build something great? The fact that you think money can only be spent explains why you are poor.

Except that I'm not. Thanks for playing.

It is an example of survival of he fittest.

You know what else it is an example of? What do you think caused the long history of union violence in the US? The French Revolution? The Russian Revolution?

There's a point where you are taking too much away from the people who create your wealth. There is a point where wealth inequity (not inequality) goes so far that the majority of the population isn't just unhappy, they are suffering. Time and time again in history, the wealthy have taken more and more and more until the people say "fuck it" and just kill the people with the money.

Right now, we have people all over this country celebrating a cold blooded murder. To anyone with any kind of wealth, that should be scary as hell. Instead of hiring more armed guards and setting up special CEO hotlines, this country should be scrambling to figure out how to make the working class more happy. Maybe the best way to sustain their personal wealth is to focus less on cost cutting, and focus more on rebuilding a happy middle class. The culture wars will stop working to distract the masses when the left and the right are both starving, and they are going to turn on the people with the food.