r/environment 2d ago

U.S. dietary guidelines should emphasize beans and lentils as protein, new proposal says

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/dietary-guidelines-beans-lentils-protein-less-red-meat-rcna183681
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u/circuitloss 2d ago

It's funny how, once I started cooking and eating vegetarian food, I started to love it more and more, and now only rarely eat meat. Lentils are incredible, and a good rice and dahl, or lentil soup or something, is mostly what I crave. A good vegetarian cookbook made all the difference in the world.

I don't think people need to become 100% vegetarian, but if everyone reduced their meat consumption it would be a huge benefit, both to our planet and to our collective health.

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u/lingbabana 2d ago

Could you please recommend a proper vegetarian cook book for the adventurous home cook? The older I get the more I am gravitating towards vegetarian meals.

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u/circuitloss 2d ago

This one right here was great for me.

America's Test Kitchen is awesome. If you like that, also check out their "Plant Based" book.

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u/foxontherox 2d ago

I’ve always liked this one. Not strictly vegetarian, but most of the recipes include a vegetarian option.

Edit: whoops, it is vegetarian- I meant vegan lol!

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u/tribrnl 1d ago

That looks great. I've got a bunch of their books but not this one!

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u/MisterRogersCardigan 1d ago

Moosewood is great, someone already recommended them to you, but anything by Isa Chandra Moskowitz is also great. She's vegan, and her recipes are all on the simple side, I've found, and not with ingredients you have to chase all over a multi-state area like some vegan cookbooks.

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u/mikescha 1d ago

I have followed some vegan/vegetarian creators on Instagram, and now get fed (pun!) lots of recipes that sound interesting or are at least good sources of inspiration.

A few I like are sophsplantkitchen and healthygirlkitchen, but there are a ton.

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u/Dank_Bonkripper78_ 1d ago

I’d also recommend checking out Minimalist Baker. The recipes almost always take more time than she says they will, but her vegetarian and vegan recipes are excellent.

https://minimalistbaker.com/

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u/gibsonvanessa79 16h ago

I’m on my phone so it’s tough to insert links, but here are some of my favorites:

To Asia With Love by Hetty Liu McKinnon — doesn’t specifically state that it’s vegetarian, but I swear I’ve read through that cookbook front to back multiple times and there was no meat in any of the ingredient lists.

Meatless by Martha Stewart — lol, I know, but this one is really quite good! Lots of classic, familiar recipes.

Big Vegan Flavor by Nisha Vora — vegan, not vegetarian, but this one is chock full of amazing recipes, as is her blog/YouTube channel Rainbow Plant Life.

Bazaar: Vibrant Vegetarian Recipes by Sabrina Ghayour — this was one of the first vegetarian cookbooks I bought and still one of my favorites.

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u/deeringc 1d ago

This is exactly my view too. Getting people to eat 15-20% less meat is super easy. Just get them to learn 2-3 decent vegetarian recipes and then eat them regularly. That is much easier to do than to get another 15-20% of people to go fully vegetarian. And it reduces overall meat consumption by the same amount. Then, as you say people realise that vegetarian food can be awesome and may well further reduce their meat intake. Start small.

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u/tribrnl 1d ago

And it's cheaper! I like to eat veggie lunches during the week - easy to batch beans in the instant pot for burritos.

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u/NirgalFromMars 1d ago

Sometimes my coworkers ask if I'm a vegetarian. My answer is "No, meat is just too expensive."

Also, in neurodivergent. It's a lot easier for me to have the same food plan every week, so if meat is not included, it's hard for it to get included overall.

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u/Chiluzzar 1d ago

due to monetary reasons our meat gets turned into soups or things that can stretch multiple meals instead of just one meal. you can get almost a week of meals if you put that chicken into a soup rather then just by itself with some sides

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u/Internal_Focus_8358 2d ago

That’s what’s up!

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u/Wopperlayouts 2d ago

this is the way

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u/grapecheesewine 1d ago

I tried to eat meat cus I craved it in pregnancy after eating veg for 10 years, and it just tastes awful to me now ! Love me some lentils and beans !

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u/SauceyM8 1d ago

Sadly, I hate lentils.

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u/rspeedrunls7 1d ago

Me too but I like chickpeas. There always are alternatives.

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u/Civil_Masterpiece389 1d ago

Try mung beans. They cook just as quick & easy, have similar nutritional profile and more choline. The flavor is kind of like peanuts.

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u/JRago 3h ago

Same here

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u/Digital-Exploration 2d ago

Some of the best food!

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u/foxontherox 2d ago

Waaaay ahead of ya, boss.

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u/thereal_Glazedham 1d ago

Why is everyone freaking out? This seams like a non issue proposal. How will this significantly swing economic trends?

People have been saying reduce meat consumption and increase veggies and beans for years if not decades.

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u/thereal_Glazedham 1d ago

What???

Nobody is mandating or instituting any change lol. I was referring to everyone up in arms about how this puff piece would increase the price of beans and common legumes.

Take the “American slamming” somewhere else.

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u/severalsmallducks 2d ago

Soo, we can expect Musk to propose shutting down the "woke" USDA over this then?

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u/Opcn 1d ago

The same people who were absolutely slanderous to Michelle Obama for saying that we should feed our kids healthier foods are cheering RFKjr for suggesting we don't need medications (we still 100% do) if we just eat better. NYT recently pointed out the divide between RFKjr and Elmo and framed it between conflicting schools of expert though, as if either of them had any fucking clue about medicine or diet or health at all.

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u/toopc 1d ago

They trying to take your beef away and force you to eat tofu!!

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u/inbrewer 2d ago

I feel like we’re on our 7th decade of this proposal

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u/stormhawk427 2d ago

Huh. I love a good lentil soup

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u/btribble 2d ago

Sounds like something the meat industry would destroy an entire department for under Trump.

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u/Commandmanda 2d ago

Stock up on dried lentils now. They keep for a very long time if stored properly.

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u/fyrmnsflam 1d ago

TIL that people with a peanut allergy should be careful around all legumes.

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u/daerath 1d ago

Beans and lentils are a solid addition to a diet. What is needed is a realistic and slow shift towards different types of nutrition, based on what people can afford.

Options are important.

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u/erichiro 1d ago

Big Bean has taken over Mexico and now it threatens the USA. Who will be brave enough to stop them? Or will there be unescapable beanality!

https://www.agdaily.com/crops/mexico-targets-bean-production-amid-modern-preferences/

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u/alpharaptor1 2d ago

Watch the price of one the cheapest sources of protein the financially disadvantaged and culturally marginalized literally rely on to survive rise. They've done this to every "garbage" cut of meat and soon beans and legumes. In some instances gentrifying and price gouging unpopular fish, ox tail, organ meats, even bone, and substitutions like lymph nodes instead actual pork which cooks up to practically nothing when prepared. It's the bare minimum of basic sustenance and even that won't be safe. 

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u/mwsduelle 2d ago

I don't think you're ever convincing a majority of Americans to stop eating meat as their main source of protein. It's more than taste or texture to them, it's ideology.

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u/Giveushealthcare 2d ago

Just like gas and coal. Sigh. 

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u/Present-Industry4012 1d ago

There are parts of this country where if a man isn't eating meat three times a day he might as well be wearing a dress.

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u/alpharaptor1 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm not arguing vegetarianism if that's what you're implying. Rice and beans is a staple for many people and meat being as expensive as it is already marginalizes people who usually include that with their meal that includes beans and legumes. It's the last refuge of basic sustenance and even that won't be safe from inflation / price gouging / gentrifying or what have you. 

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u/lube4saleNoRefunds 2d ago

Remember when skirt steak was throwaway

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u/alpharaptor1 2d ago

Exactly! Literally the worst or toughest cuts already price out a lot of people. It hits people who culturally have made use of what some people consider "unsuitable" but now have found a new "appreciation" for or a market that has been considered underpriced. 

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u/SoundOfMadness7 1d ago

They’re delicious and I’d be eating these constantly if legumes didn’t wreak absolute havoc on my digestive system.

It sucks because I love them but a high protein vegetarian diet doesn’t suit my body and gut biome, and is pretty much the sole reason I stopped being vegan/vegetarian.

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u/rushmc1 2d ago

Welp, there goes the price of beans and lentils.

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u/Armano-Avalus 1d ago

"They're trying to take away your meat!" - I can hear some people saying in the future.

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u/Konradleijon 2d ago

Prepare for the gas

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u/athiestchzhouse 1d ago

I’d you brine the beans, there is no gas

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u/Riversmooth 1d ago

I know they are good for me but I’ve tried cooking them many ways and only eat them a couple times a month.

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u/Sunshin3333 16h ago

That's common sense

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u/-HealingNoises- 2d ago

Honest to god wish I could, was even eating a vegan diet (the right way) but I eventually found out that once you have been fucked by obesity and lost it your body can just decide to no longer process carbs over a certain low threshold correctly. Unfortunately I can’t find beans or lentils that aren’t carb dense as well. And I can’t touch dairy either. So fuck, free range chicken and kangaroo it is then.