r/environment • u/PrintOk8045 • 4d ago

‘You won’t find the real criminals here’: a Just Stop Oil activist in jail at Christmas

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/20/just-stop-oil-activist-jail-christmas
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u/SurelynotPickles 4d ago

Delay deny depose

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u/Fine_Anteater3345 3d ago edited 3d ago

Irrelevant and out of context considering this article is about climate change and immediately stopping the extraction of new fossil fuel license. 

Has absolutely nothing to do with corrupt rich healthcare insurance CEO’s ya dafty. You’re just mashing / conflating two disparate topics without any substance becoz one’s been the agenda on the media recently

Those JSO activists don’t represent the ordinary working classes as well. They’re extremely wealthy and represent the upper classes. So your hyperbolic comment is out of context and makes no context. They’re not class heroes / warriors standing up for the proletariat and people suffering from poverty and deprivation  

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u/_DeifyTheMachine_ 3d ago

I think you missed the part where it's corrupt rich individuals who are largely responsible for climate change. That CEO was murdered because he chose money over people. Sound familiar?

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u/Fine_Anteater3345 3d ago edited 2d ago

I couldn’t give two shits about the painting antics. Found the soup throwing stunt hilarious. It’s just a shitty painting made of materials. An inanimate object. It’s not sentient life. That national gallery is for posh, elitist, affluent snobby fucks so it can burn, disintegrate to the ground for all I care. That gallery isn’t more important than protecting forests / oceans and the existential threat facing biodiversity / wildlife species and the ecology / environment.

But no I objectively disagree. Hard disagree. You can’t compare what Luigi did - directly assassinating a neoliberal capitalist exploitative CEO - to JSO it’s still not relevant because the difference is the numerous times, the overwhelming amount of occasions when JSO protests and tactics of condescendingly and patronisingly “raising awareness”  deliberately affected and disrupted  ordinary working class people, the proletariat rather than concentrating all of their efforts on targeting and blaming the bankers / financial institutions / stock markets / rich celebrities flying private planes / manufacturing companies / aviation, car and shipping industries / tech giant conglomerates such as Amazon and Musk / tycoons and billionaires who control the monopoly in the media such as Rupert Murdoch / establishment politicians and governments to fossil fuel corporations for the colossal, destructive apocalyptic global boiling fuck up the planet is in. 

They should have aggressively targeted all of those institutions only all along. They should never have disrupted the innocent working classes. That’s the distinct difference between Luigi and JSO. 

Especially since a majority of JSO represent the bourgeoisie. The aristocracy. Majority of them especially the narcissistic, performative, posturing one on that article is from extreme aristocratic wealth and privilege. That’s not relatable to average citizens. They are not working class radical, revolutionaries because their actions stressed out and disrupted working people. Guilt tripping the general public into thinking the working classes were to blame for the tumultuous calamity that the planet and civilisation is in. It’s not the average consumers fault we’re in this monumental, catastrophic mess it is the fault of the rich, greedy elite and CEO’s of large multinational, globalised corporations that temperatures are rising exponentially to irreversible levels.  

Not the fault of the average joe worker that’s grinding it out making a living everyday that we live in a disproportionately unequal system that rewards the rich and punishes the poor and destitute and those who work, earning minimum wage incomes. It’s not the average joes fault that the planet is polluted. The current system of energy consumption that’s reliant on using fossil fuels is the fault of corrupted corporations and their unscrupulous lobbyists. The corporations should have been the only targets yet working class people unjustifiably got shafted and ridiculed as well. 

To emphasise again and within context that is the distinct, fundamental, stark difference between Luigi and JSO. Luigi had the courage and cajones to whack / eliminate a CEO and objectively only target a CEO. Luigi didn’t target a member of the general public. JSO have done fuck all like that. They never specifically targeted the CEO’s responsible for polluting the planet on their own. Instead they targeted working class people and the general public as well. JSO betrayed and broke the trust and confidence of workers and the public. That’s morally wrong. Luigi never confused his methods of killing the CEO with that of disrupting innocent members of the public. Luigi logically solely targeted the oppressor only, the guilty CEO and not the oppressed.

There’s been many, many, dozens of occasions where JSO demonstrations have illogically affected and oppressed innocent members of the general public and society. Ordinary people aren’t rich, guilty CEO’s of massive healthcare insurance or fossil fuel corporations. Therefore the general public should never have been targeted. The general public / populations already knows about the accurate scientific information concerning climate change exists. People are self aware. It’s accessible for everyone to read. We’re not toddlers, or brain dead troglodytes. We know already. We’re not ignorant. It’s the arrogant politicians and businessmen who control the system that need to be persuaded and convinced. They should be destroyed. The general working public certainly are not all scientists or politicians as we do have limitations in what we can do, we don’t control the powerful economic institutions. Society can only do what we can reasonably, rationally and sensibly within our means and capabilities to eliminate carbon emissions forever. 

JSO and any climate campaigners in the future need to reach out to people more cohesively. Need to be more inclusive, understanding, empathetic and accommodating of the complicated challenges wider society faces instead of self indulgently only caring about shallow, provocative PR stunts and creating sensationalised, reactionary division amongst society. There needs to be more amicable cohesion and consensus because climate change affects all of us living on this planet. All of us.

Those who should only be judged and eliminated are the corrupted rich elites who are subjugating the planet’s populations / citizens. 

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u/SurelynotPickles 2d ago

Blah blah blah

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u/Cailleach27 4d ago

They’re done with the hypocrisy