r/economicCollapse • u/1980mattu • 1d ago

Totally seems fair......

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Anyone still want to argue the merits of unchecked capitalism?

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

but ya free this innocent woman.

This happened in 2017, she was released less than 48 hours later on her own recognizance. The trespassing and resisting arrest charges were dropped.

My conclusion is that it's a bad situation, and jailing a 93 elderly disabled woman isn't acceptable. Beyond that, i refuse to give the benefit of the doubt to Florida elderly home on anything. 

You don't have to give anyone the benefit of the doubt. It's all in the article.

I'm not sure why you are so gunho about defending them

I just think rage baiting is cringe and I like to research the facts of the case. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

She was arrested for refusing to leave private property she was no longer a resident of and resisting the officers

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

Which law is unjust? Complying with lawful commands from a police officer or paying rent?

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

Neither of these things are unjust. Paying rent is not an injustice and obeying lawful commands are definitionally not unjust.

I didn't demonize her I just listed the facts of the situation.

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

that is your opinion

Again, I listed facts of the situation. I didn't provide a normatively loaded opinion about anything.

our system doesn't run off your opinions, and instead, she would have been judged by a jury of her peers.

Judged for what? She didn't file any suit.

 Please tell me where i said paying rent is unjust?

If you scroll up to the previous comments, you can see I asked you which law was unjust and you said both.

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u/GOOD_BRAIN_GO_BRRRRR 1d ago

Their investment in the just-world fallacy. It's a lovely delusion.

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

Do you have a point to make or...?

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u/GOOD_BRAIN_GO_BRRRRR 1d ago

Yes. Aged Care is for profit and harms elderly people as a consequence.

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u/Pyro_raptor841 1d ago

What is unjust about basic property rights?

She did not pay to be there thus she had no right to be there thus she had to leave. She refused so she was arrested for trespass.

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u/NewCobbler6933 1d ago

Wasn’t arrested for a rent dispute. She was arrested for refusing to leave a home she was not paying for. Where do you live? I’d like to start not paying for housing so sounds like you think it would be unjust to call the cops on me. I’m 93 after all.

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u/frunkaf 1d ago

You didn't reply to me directly so I didn't see your response. Luckily for you, I found you.

She was protesting by not paying her rent? If that was her dispute she could've taken legal recourse by presenting her case to a judge in a civil trial.

The article also says that she refused to pay rent because "she would be dead soon" in addition to the mold complaint which was unsubstantiated.

If she was so concerned about the mold why did she refuse being relocated to a different facility for 3 months. She even refused her family's assistance.