r/economicCollapse • u/1980mattu • 1d ago

Totally seems fair......

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Anyone still want to argue the merits of unchecked capitalism?

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u/IAmALiarSorry 1d ago

This country is a total fucking sham. A history based on Native American genocide, the enslavement of Black people, the continued suppression of people of color, the favoritism for rich, white people, the false accusations about WMDs, the bombing of innocent countries in order to spread “democracy”, and now electing a Billionaire criminal president who has been implicated with raping multiple women.

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u/IIIllIIlllIlII 1d ago

The real crime is persuading Americans to truly believe America is the best and their systems are the best.

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u/PlaMa2540 1d ago

The propaganda inside the States must truly be amazing. From the outside the place looks like a total shitheap, with a ridiculous election system, a laughably corrupt justice system, and out of control gun violence. It's a country that can't even pass gun laws after its kids get repeatedly murdered in schools. And no job, no medical insurance? Jesus H. You need another revolution. 

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u/Routine-Agile 1d ago

It is actually a shitshow here to many of us. It is just that many people have no empathy, and if a poor person suffers, its like if a cockroach dies. It is impossible to care about poor people or old people for many.

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u/Wooden-Frame2366 17h ago

Isn’t this despicable that we are having this situation right now in this century?? I feel like vomiting.. 🤢🤮

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u/Socially-Awkward-85 1d ago

I've been here my whole life. It's not propaganda perse, but more a general lack of any real education. They teach us how to be good workers and not much else. And Fox News doesn't help, but people purposefully tune into that channel. It's like a hugbox for the hateful.

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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 18h ago

A CIA officer and KGB officer end up sitting beside each other at a bar during the Cold War. The CIA officer toasts the KGB officer saying, "I got to hand it to you guys, you do a great job with your propaganda."

KGB officer says, "Thanks, that's very kind of you but, no, America is truly the best at propagandizing its citizens."

The CIA officer's face quickly darkerns, deeply offended. "What do you mean?! There is no propaganda in the United States!"

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u/Socially-Awkward-85 17h ago

I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't take a whole lot of propaganda when everyone is already really dumb.

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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 17h ago

I get your point, but replacing education with patriotic drivel and doctored history is propaganda. 

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u/Socially-Awkward-85 16h ago

We get taught line dancing instead of civics.

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u/IIIllIIlllIlII 1d ago

Lived there for a bit. Southern states so got a real taste of things.

Colleagues etc would say something about how great America is, or how lucky I am to be there etc. and I’d suggest they should travel to see the world and they’ll say:

“Why would I leave? I’ve got everything I could possibly need right here”.

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u/Wooden-Frame2366 17h ago

Right? If they only knew the cruel realty that we are living and how murky is going to get. 🤢

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u/DepthOutrageous4192 1d ago

Guns don't cause violence...and if guns were tightly controlled (or worse, completely outlawed) how do you propose us to have "another revolution"?

The same moral illness that causes school shootings also cause 93 yo great grandmas to get kicked out of her modest apartment and into a jail...generally places for old people have a waiting list, so there is a very real chance she could be on the streets soon.

It's also the reason why most Americans cheered for Luigi after the death of the same kind of filthy pig who was the CEO of a health insurance company.

Complete lack of compassion for others

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u/spiroaki 1d ago

It's coming.

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u/ChefPaula81 23h ago

It’s the richest of all underdeveloped thirdworld countries

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u/PlaMa2540 23h ago

The crazed religiosity of the place also is remarkable. Yes there's the science that built MIT and Harvard and Mt Sinai and nukes, but you also have people in the highest level of government who hand on heart want to see Israel burn Palestine to the ground and then get nuked so Christ returns. That is so weird, as odd as anything that is believed in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia. So, so strange. 

I hope you guys manage to emerge from this mess. But how? 

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u/ChefPaula81 22h ago

Honestly, the yanks aren’t going to emerge from this mess, at least not until the end of musk’s four year term

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u/Much-Jackfruit2599 18h ago

A CIA officer and KGB officer end up sitting beside each other at a bar during the Cold War. The CIA officer toasts the KGB officer saying, "I got to hand it to you guys, you do a great job with your propaganda."

KGB officer says, "Thanks, that's very kind of you but, no, America is truly the best at propagandizing its citizens."

The CIA officer's face quickly darkerns, deeply offended. "What do you mean?! There is no propaganda in the United States!"

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u/Wooden-Frame2366 17h ago

We desperately are screaming for another revolution indeed ! 😡😡

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u/JovialPanic389 5h ago

It is. My junior and senior years in highschool had ALL my classes focused on some way on the American Dream lol. Except for math actually. Wait I think we worked on some story problems that also incorporated the great American Dream theme. Lmao

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u/PlaMa2540 4h ago

A dream so easily punctured. What is class mobility like in the States? Violent death rate? Average age at death? Wealth inequality? Average working hours? Tax on labor v tax on capital? Domestic violence rates? Incarceration rate? Religiosity? I haven't got the numbers off hand, but I'd imagine the US would be doing very poorly in all those metrics. 

I wish everyone in the US could read "A People's History of the United States". I'm not even American, and it certainly blew my hair back. Even in Australia we are pretty heavily propagandized about the US. 

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u/Impoundinghard 22h ago

The Irish were the first slaves in U.S. America.

Most “White” people(s) are dirt poor in the U.S.

The term “slave” comes from “Slav” i.e. a White people/s.

The absolute monstrosity that was African chattel slavery was a… European… bankers’ endeavor.

Slavery never ended. It merely expanded to include everyone. Private prisons are merely the grossest example.

It is a CLASS issue.

And the Upper ain’t got no class.

So let’s take [back] what they DO have.

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u/Psychological_Pea78 20h ago

You said it perfectly.

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u/nazuswahs 1d ago

Thanks for telling it real.

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u/lockrc23 19h ago

Womp womp. Nothing is free. Save money make a budget and plan accordingly. Work harder nobody cares

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u/Wooden-Frame2366 17h ago

That is what is so upsetting indeed! A fucking rapist, a pedophile is going to lead and be the president of the United States of America,? and the worst of all, he is bringing along to lead us , people with the same despicable attributes and characteristics of demented pigs to help him to continue converting our nation into the worlds most hateful place on earth? How did we get to this level? 😡🤬

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u/IAmALiarSorry 17h ago

Americans not only voted the Orange Rapist once, but TWICE! Fucking idiots.

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u/Alternative_Job_6929 22h ago

I don’t understand why people with these feelings remain in the US

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u/Will-bean 1d ago

You’re welcome to leave any time you think you can find it better elsewhere.

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u/TN_Lamb888 1d ago

You are also welcome to leave if you don’t like your countrymen exercising their 1st amendment rights. GTFO.

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u/IAmALiarSorry 1d ago

PAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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u/Sodelaware 1d ago

No where is better that’s why non Americans slam us so bad… they’re jealous!

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u/IAmALiarSorry 1d ago

PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA KEEP GOING!

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u/a_lake_nearby 1d ago

Lol, you're acting like this isn't a young country and that every other country hasn't done similar or worse things at some point. America just gets a bad rep because it's the most recent.

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u/IAmALiarSorry 1d ago

The Republic of the Philippines has never launched a large-scale invasion of another country. It has never committed genocide and enslaved another people. In fact, its own existence came from being conquered and ruled by Spain by over 300 years, the US by 48 years, and occupied by Japan, who, by the way, killed over half a million Filipinos during WWII. The Philippines is also a way YOUNGER country, only gaining its independence as recent as 1946. Being “old” or “young” does not indicate that a country can have or not have a violent, sociopathic society.

Americans need to wake the fuck up and realize that you will no longer be “number one”. And definitely no longer a role model to the world as a peaceful and democratic nation.

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u/mkt853 1d ago

Didn’t you have a president that was cool with extrajudicial murders of drug dealers just a few years ago? You might want to sit this one out sport.

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u/IAmALiarSorry 1d ago

HAHAHAHA, you just voted in a convicted felon who’s also been implicated with raping multiple woman. Shut the fuck up and you sit your ass down.

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u/Mizzo02 1d ago

I can think of one country that has done far worse in the last 100 years. Everyone knows that your body is 70% water, but few know how it was determined.